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How close and stupid do people have to be before you start reporting them to the old five O??
This guy overtook me yesterday morning and felt like it was close / dangerous enough. But how close is close?
Dangerous enough..??


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:03 am
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Waste of time, he didn't hit you, there's nothing they can/will do. Badly judged, but he doesn't really look that close.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:05 am
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that was pretty close

Was he super important/in a hurry/"pressing on" (I hate that expression! Sums up people like that!), or was it just a poorly judged overtake?


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:07 am
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Guy overtook me using the right hand turn off and ran onto the chevrons.. There was no screeching of brakes but 1 second later and its a big accident head on with a hgv and would have probably taken me out too.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:14 am
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What was your speed?


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:43 am
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About 55mph


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:45 am
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christ, that was a close call.
Do you viddy all your car journeys?


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:49 am
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I'd report that one. He might be on the books already, or it might put him on the books so they'd take heed of the next one.

Then again, I can't read the plate off that vid, can you?


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 8:16 am
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And did you have to brake for him to get back in?

Interesting that he brakes after he's pulled back in - bricking it after a close call? The bend doesn't look particularly slow.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 8:20 am
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****! I'm the first to admit I like to "move on" when I'm driving but ive only ever had one overtake closer than that and it ended up with a blocked road and two written off cars! Changed the way I drove forever and I never make risky overtakes!


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 8:31 am
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It's always worth reporting, if there is enough independent reports I'd like to think something wood be done. Even if it's a quiet word that you are on our radar.
Sussex Police have a very quick online reporting system and it is definitely looked at as I've had feedback the couple of times I've used it.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 8:41 am
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martinhutch - If you pause it at [url=

seconds[/url] in, you can see it clearly. Even better in full screen. On the embedded version I can bump it up to 4K, but on youtube only 720p. High enough to read anyway.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 9:10 am
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and ran onto the chevrons..

not an offence the chevrons are bordered by broken lines so you are allowed to cross when "necessary" which a traffic cop told me was "almost whenever you want to". Overtaking at a junction is daft though, although again not sure its an offence. It was very poorly judged though.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 9:11 am
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From the video I'd say he nearly died. One second later and he've been toast, possibly you too, and the truck driver traumatised...


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 9:45 am
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Poorly judged or he didn't see the truck which was obscured by shadows from the trees on the right.

I never know in that situation whether to lift off or not in case the overtaker decides to brake as well and I end up blocking them.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 9:52 am
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I guess you can ask your Rozzers whether they'd follow it up.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 10:18 am
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I'd report it.

Unless s/he had a child with a potentially fatal bee sting in the back*, that was unnecessary, pure and simple.

*This did happen once on a kids camp I used to work on. Young girl got stung in the mouth by a bee, which to her was potentially fatal. The camp director flew down the A12 to get to Broomfield hospital, but was stopped for speeding. After a brief explanation the police gave an escort with full lights and sound.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 10:19 am
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As said above, email the Police the video link and ask for them to contact the driver to provide some 'words of advice. Drivers like that can only benefit from a call and I wouldn't object if that was me and they rang.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 6:05 pm
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Both me and a riding buddy reported one last weekend, aggressive overtaking 20 metres before a red light, horn sounding, wheel spinning, second aggressive overtaking followed by brake slamming, he then parked up got out of the car hoping for an argument but we rode past and gold him to grow up. Predictably big fat bugger in a football shirt slbiet with a new niceish car, private plate K13 MAS White Mondeo in Woodbridge if anyone's interested.
TBH I just feel sorry for him just another unhappy frustrated middle age bloke.
Anyway plod went through the motions made some consolatory noises and that was it.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 6:28 pm
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It's just another badly-judged overtake. Go to any developing country and you'll see it all the time.

Why don't you use the camera in landscape? You'll find it fits the view better.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 6:50 pm
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Nahhh ... Let it be but just drive defensively.

That driver is just few seconds away from head on coalition with the 16 wheelers. If there was an accident the driver would be so smashed up you could see brain bits all over the place.

Anyway, FFS could you [b][u]film using Landscape rather Portrait[/u][/b] ... turn your camera around. Ts! Ts! Ts! The filming technique is far more important than if the other driver was totally smashed up with brain bits all over the place. 😈

I will put you to hard labour for filming in Portrait format.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 6:53 pm
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It was recorded using a HTC one and an app called auto guard.
I've only just started using it after I was overtaken by a minor celebrity whilst driving round a blind bend just last week.
I'll try and repent my sinful camera mode filming.. wtf was I thinking


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:01 pm
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It was poorly judged but not that close in my opinion. When he's pulling back in the truck is, relatively speaking, still some way off. (Pause video at 13 secs)
He made an error of judgement, but we've all done that.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:27 pm
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Just bray on the horn. Job done.

I did come close to reporting a guy once, because he would overtake like that on a regular basis on the morning commute. Just couldn't see anything being done about it without evidence.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:28 pm
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Happens everyday doesn't it? Richard Cranium (aka 'Dick Head') in his white BMW undertook 5 other cars then me to dive in front at the start of the average 50mph zone between Catterick & Leeming on the A1 yesterday. He found himself behind a 'speed limit abiding driver' who was doing 50mph (indicated) & very slowly passing a truck, Richard commenced to flash his lights at the car in front & wave his arms around, for 3 miles!
Me & the missus were almost amused!
Prick.


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:44 pm
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Poorly judged or he didn't see the truck which was obscured by shadows from the trees on the right.

Which isn't really relevant, since he was also overtaking on chevrons (which you may do, but only when neccesary, and only when you can see it's clear), and overtaking at a junction.

Some folks seem to think "I can see it's clear" is equivalant to "I can't see it's not clear")


 
Posted : 11/06/2014 7:50 pm
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Which isn't really relevant, since he was also overtaking on chevrons (which you may do, but only when neccesary, and only when you can see it's clear), and overtaking at a junction.

Some folks seem to think "I can see it's clear" is equivalant to "I can't see it's not clear")

What do you mean 'not relevant'? It's a discussion forum, I was discussing.

I'm not aware of a requirement for an overtake to be 'necessary'. Could you post a link explaining what constitutes neccessary? Because as far as I am aware, dash-edged hatching is to be treated exactly the same as if it were a dashed centre line. I.e. fine to overtake so long as it is safe (which it was not as per my original post because of the oncoming truck he presumably did not see or a misjudgement on how much clear road the overtake would require).

I thought the overtake was started after the junction, but the video being narrow makes it hard to see. If it was across the junction as well, then the overtaker was clearly a diphallus dickhead.


 
Posted : 12/06/2014 1:15 pm
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I'm not aware of a requirement for an overtake to be 'necessary'. Could you post a link explaining what constitutes neccessary. Because as far as I am aware, dash-edged hatching is to be treated exactly the same as if it were a dashed centre line.

"Neccesary" is straight from the highway code... Here's the relevent bit and also the equivalent for normal dashed centrelines- they're not the same

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A broken white line. This marks the centre of the road. When this line lengthens and the gaps shorten, it means that there is a hazard ahead. Do not cross it unless you can see the road is clear and wish to overtake or turn off.

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Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.

If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.


 
Posted : 12/06/2014 1:35 pm
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I just went and asked the RPU Sgt next door. He says just treat them the same as you would a hazard centre line (the long dashes). Obviously the usual considerations regarding overtaking in the vicinity of junctions apply.


 
Posted : 12/06/2014 1:55 pm
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*This did happen once on a kids camp I used to work on. Young girl got stung in the mouth by a bee, which to her was potentially fatal. The camp director flew down the A12 to get to Broomfield hospital, but was stopped for speeding. After a brief explanation the police gave an escort with full lights and sound.

I believe that a vehicle being used as an ambulance is exempt from speed limits.


 
Posted : 12/06/2014 2:01 pm
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Report it and let the cops decide whether it's worth following up.


 
Posted : 12/06/2014 10:35 pm

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