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Has anybody actually experienced any cold weather yet? The forecasters have been predicting sub zero conditions all week but there isn't even a frost here in Essex this morning - car windscreen clear. I went out on the bike over the weekend and it was a bit windy but certainly not cold.
I wonder if it's the usual hype and exaggeration and all we'll get is a few snow flurries.
-6 here in north Wiltshire.
Isn't that the point though - The air is so dry that there isn't enough moisture for frosts to form? -3 When I left this morning and no frost which was very unusual, if and when the snow comes it will settle straight away. Clear skies in Worthing, in Eastbourne now and a few light flurries. Was out on the bike at half 7 yesterday and it was cold enough!
Chilly in Scottish Borders -3. A few flakes of snow but Temps due to drop. We'll see.
Cold but dry in Manchester, that definitely means something weird is going on.
it's dry in Manchester.
-1c in North West Northumberland with very fine snow just starting ..but too fine to lie on the ground .
It's not really supposed to kick off until tomorrow though ..
-14 last night here in Croatia, -19 on Wednesday night...... Cold enough!
Back in the ‘olden days’ it was classed as normal weather in winter. Since global warming and the race to create headlines it is now something special.
So it used to be common and yes because air is from the east it is drier therefore no haw frost.
Yesterday I was out on the road bike, roads completely dry, thought it was quite mild, then went past a massive patch of ice which made me think it must be cold. I then dropped in to a valley and was met by a horrible head wind that was ****ing freezing.
The ‘beast from the east’ is nice calm cold weather. When it gets windy that’s when the windchill makes it feel uncomfortable
make the best of dry roads/trails while you can. Only -3 here this morning 🙁
Our cars were covered in frost, but the roads were fine.
Thin layer of Snow here in Yorkshire.
It is however pleasantly crisp and refreshing.
Light snow falling in manchester now
It is absolutely lovely winter weather though isn't it?
Thought this was about a Cannondale.. Chilly here today*, I didn't cycle in to work
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Not Yorkshire
Snow fairly heavy in City of London - not really settling though.
Was minus something or other with light snow when we left the house on the north downs.
no haw frost.
Hoar frost.
Was in Sweden last year, and it had been still for ages - the ice crystals about an inch long formed on all the trees, it looked like it had snowed. Beautiful.
Snow fairly heavy in City of London – not really settling though.
It is on the roofs.
Snow in Manchester? Bright sunshine at Piccadilly.
Very keen cold wind around Lyme Park yesterday, so must have been bitter higher up.
Snow fairly heavy in City of London – not really settling though.
It is on the roofs.
Sunny now!
It's clear as anything in Cardiff, but cold as a cold thing.
I just returned from a week in Belgium where it was extraordinarily cold. So I can imagine that, if that's what we've got coming our way, then for the first time ever, the media aren't exaggerating.
[i]the race to create headlines it is now something special..[/i]
I have to agree with this. It's February, it's supposed to be cold. If it was this cold in June then it would be worthy of the coverage it's getting.
-4 and snowing/bright sunshine cyclingn into brum this morning. Toes were cold but I’d otherwise judged my layers perfectly and it was a lovely ride in. Happy days.
Tomorrow looks less lovely.
I'm hugely disappointed so far. I even brought the Guinnea Pigs indoors after forecasts of -10 and colder temps, but this morning was a lovely cold and crisp morning with light snow flurry's and maybe only -1 or -2. Hope it gets colder as the week goes on.
I have to agree with this. It’s February, it’s supposed to be cold. If it was this cold in June then it would be worthy of the coverage it’s getting.
Having just take a look at the forecast and warnings it's worth the coverage, dry snow, decent amount forecast and winds to drift it or end up with blizzard conditions.
Train companies are cutting services and expecting disruption, the UK road network struggles on nice days and in many areas that are due for the worst of it are at capacity. In general people are under prepared for weather like this and expect to carry on as usual.
<p class="story-body__introduction">Snow is falling across the UK as bitterly cold weather is swept in from Russia.</p>
A wind chill means that during the day it will feel like -10C to -15C.Yellow and amber weather warnings for snow are in place for Monday and Tuesday, covering southern and eastern England before extending to cover the Midlands, Scotland and Wales.
Some train services in the south east of England will stop running on Monday night as a precautionary measure.
Wednesday and Thursday's yellow warnings will also cover Cornwall, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
By Wednesday night, more than 20cm of snow could have accumulated in some parts of eastern England and Northern Ireland, say forecasters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43190440
0 deg in Harrogate with a very light dusting of snow as I walked the dog at 7am but that's passed now. Got the central heating up full blast + 2 electric heaters + a Dyson fancy dan fan trying to keep the office warm
Back in the ‘olden days’ it was classed as normal weather in winter. Since global warming and the race to create headlines it is now something special.
Were the "olden days" back when Mammoths roamed the land?
Average Daily High Temps for Feb (in London which is the only place I can find data for) is 7c for Feb 1st and 10c for Feb 28th. It's currently -1c ambient and snowing. 'The Beast from the East' is actually the wind giving a 'feels like' temp of -5c.
As a lot of people have said, it doesn't seem as bad where it's dry - but it can catch you out. I drove over Caerphilly mountain this morning, lovely sunny day, climate set to 21.5c and for a moment forgot is was -3 outside, until I drove towards Castle Coch and slide on a massive sheet of ice caused by a little stream that crosses the road. I was doing about 8mph at the time
Weather is likely to get colder and more 'wintery' as the week progresses. That's from the Met Office, not the ****ing Express. Friday is likely to be -2 to -4 with a 'feels like' temp of -10 and snowing.
On this day every year since 2009 it's been between 8c and 12c as far as I can tell.
Were the “olden days” back when Mammoths roamed the land?
On this day every year since 2009 it’s been between 8c and 12c as far as I can tell.
Well, they were before 2009, that's for sure. Bleedin' millenials 😉
@howsyourdad that picture takes me back to SAABs of my youth. More cars should have a 'night panel' button.
Cold, but not as cold as I expected in the Thames valley this morning, probably because the easterly wind hit's London first which seems to be taking the brunt of it.
Snowing though, I've got the fat bike ready and waiting to go having missed the snow in December!
Were the “olden days” back when Mammoths roamed the land?
On this day every year since 2009 it’s been between 8c and 12c as far as I can tell.
Well, they were before 2009, that’s for sure. Bleedin’ millenials
Ha ha, I'm 40 so lay in that void between Boomer and Millenial, we're the ****ers who like to base stuff on fact, not on some rose tinted memory of the past or how we 'feel' it should be. Mostly I'm a bit of a weather nerd.
2009 to 2017 was the only data I had to hand. It 'should' be overcast, drizzly and about 9c today.
Bleedin' facts getting in the way of a bit of fun cynicism eh? 😉
I'm not sure if I admire or despair at the commuter cyclists without gloves today, especially the guy in shorts.
MTB ride on Saturday was lovely, crisp trails and barely any wind, so as long as fingers, toes, ears and nose were kept warm it was lovely to be out.
I then took the road bike for a shake down ride on Sunday...... same theoretical temperature but the wind had got up, and toes and fingers were numb in no time due to the windchill, and then cycling head down into the wind on the way home, even with a fleece skullcap on the cold wind through the front vent was distinctly nasty. Glad it was only a 45 minute shakedown, i was proper cold by the time I got back.
2C here in Cornwall with a bitter wind, considering I'm usually in a tee by now it's freeezing.
-5 here in Brum, dry as a bone, bloody lovely weather.
Mammoths & rose tinted memories ..pah!
If you like factual here it is ...I was 6 years old at the time and lived 3 miles away in Annfield Plain ..where it was even deeper ..
Bloody southern softies !
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/brrr-worst-winter-living-memory-14041148
Bloody cold in North Wales, hovering around zero, but dry as a bone
I was in Minnesota a couple of weeks ago. The warmest it got was -8 deg C, the coldest was nearer -30. Had the pleasure of my first fat bike experience in proper snow in -20 deg C. Great fun riding the groomed trails. Once the snow hits they ride around the trail centres with fat tyre'd motorcycles in order get them groomed for fat bikes. Great experience, still don't want one though.
Back in Balmy Hampshire now. The car told me it was -4 this morning, bit snowy but no snow day.
Back in the ‘olden days’ it was classed as normal weather in winter. Since global warming and the race to create headlines it is now something special.
No, 'beast from the east' is a fun media name for a weather event that only happens every few years as a result of sudden stratospheric warming, it's quite an unusual and infrequent event. There's some interesting info about it online in the last week or two, have a look and learn something.
Nothing unusual with the weather here in the North East.
Hardly any snow at all. 🙂
Light snow in Stirling, as it was in Perth when I left this morning. Won't come to anything though.
Snowing here, near Gatwick, right now. It's quite a flurry at the moment, but it's been on and off all morning.
Just nipped around the Bingley Bash. Pretty much perfect conditions (for winter, anyhow). Not feeling too cold with the right layers and appropriate level of effort...
Myth? All it means is easterly winds, and those we have, so no not a myth at all.
It's much colder than the seasonal average. Before whinging about scientists maybe learn some science?
If you like factual here it is …I was 6 years old at the time and lived 3 miles away in Annfield Plain ..where it was even deeper ..
Bloody southern softies !
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/brrr-worst-winter-living-memory-14041148/blockquote >
I was walking to school during that winter, I was the first kid at my school to wear long trousers, my mum bought them because she thought it was just too cold to wear shorts!This was in North Wiltshire, where I still live, I was nine then, us ‘southern softies’ had just as much snow down here.
In 2001 I moved back to Scotland from Yorkshire at the end of Feb. My parents live in the Borders and at started snowing on the Monday when we dropped the hire van off in Berwick. I drove up the A68 to Edinburgh for a job interview in the afternoon and couldn't drive back because they closed the road at Soutra. It was Thursday before they managed to clear the roads to my folks house but they'd had no electricity for about three days, they had a log burning stove which could only really heat the living room as the only way to draw the hot water away was by running the hot taps. So if they were cold they had a hot bath. I drove down with supplies of food and batteries and the roads were like singletrack roads with massive walls of snow on either side.
Tweed valley MRT have just put some photos up from that winter on their facebook ^^
Just nipped around the Stroud hills. Pretty much perfect conditions (for winter, anyhow). Not feeling too cold with the right layers and appropriate level of effort…
Just on the "i didn't need to clear the windscreen" comment.. that's because it's dry air, not because it's warm.
https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/968077102250708992
Bitter in northern Southampton (Swaythling) mid morning, we even had some snow flakes falling for a while, hands went numb despite wearing gloves.
Didn't stop me from doing ~1700 feet of very slow hill reps though on the way home, most I've done outdoors this year so far. Had two pairs of socks (inc. Sealskins), two pairs of gloves and two jackets (Altura Peleton Convert gillet under PX Hydrosphere) on with merino beanie and work trousers/shirt.
Getting warm again indoors for the last hour or so has been nice, let's see how things are tomorrow morning...
Quite chilly, but it is february for ****'s sake. What do people expect?
It was sodding cold around Oxted and The Weald today. Some pretty heavy snow as well although it didn’t stick around for long. Had a few moments when visibility was down to 20m or so. I suspect we might wake up to a sprinkling tomorrow morning but probably not enough that I can stay in bed 🙁
It was a bit chilly up on Winter Hill this morning...
Wait, back up a minute. Did someone say ‘Castle Coch’?
😁
Over here in the East (Lincolnshire coast) we have had snow showers on and off today, there is kind of enough to see lying in the fields, but it's not covering the cabbages. And the roads are clear.
Count Zero ...then please accept my apologies ..I hadn't realised.. but long trousers were a soft option and for that reason you can't be classed as hardcore.. 😉😁
Quite chilly, but it is february for ****’s sake. What do people expect?
It is significantly colder than average, as you can see from my graph, so yes it is unusual.
First casualty of the day when iIended up in sports direct buying gloves tbis afternoon. Second appears to be pizza express card machine
There were a few flakes at 7 this morning when I was out with the dog (Galphay, Ripon) but it soon stopped. Bright sunshine and hovering around zero all day at Thirsk. Just taken the dog again this evening round the fields and it was cold but still. The ground isn't frozen completely solid, although the outside taps are starting g to ice up. Just had a quick heavy snow squall.....could hear it hitting the caravan roof. Mrs S tells me it snowed this morning at Scapegoat Hill, but nothing now, and son in Shropshire tells me it snowed pretty much all day but hasn't settled. He loves the monicker "Beast from the East" as his twin sister is at uni in Hull, and has got much mileage out of the joke.
Don't worry - I can confidentially predict heavy snowfall on thursday night and friday morning as that's when i'm meant to be flying to Mallorca for a long weekend of climbing!
Meh. In Luxembourg it was -11 at lunchtime. In the sun. Predicted -18 overnight. It's manageable but... my beer froze.
This cold can stay. No need to clean the bike tonight after 16 miles down bridleways and the canal. Nice and dry with the light snow starting to stick. Got Friday off so will be out what ever the weather as I've just run in the Ice Spiker tyres. My god they are noisy compared to snow studs.
My brother has just been to Sainsburys and apparently it's like a swarm of locusts has hit it. It's ridiculous, especially as they aren't even forecasting much snow for here in West Sussex.
Well the beast passed by this way overnight ..and has promised to come back ..2-3 inches and a white blanket as far as I can see..
I knew something was up when the itv news truck was in our village yesterday evening and sure enough we featured on the local evening news .
This also provided much laughter when the proprietor of the local country store while being interviewed had his name flashed on the bottom of the screen as Prof.Chris Gray NHS..
In real life he is known as Terry Brown ( Broon)..but professor it is from now on ..🤣
My brother has just been to Sainsburys and apparently it’s like a swarm of locusts has hit it. It’s ridiculous, especially as they aren’t even forecasting much snow for here in West Sussex.
Since it seems to be eggs, milk and bread, I always think of it as preparing for National French Toast day.
F all in South Somerset so far, bar about 6 flakes yesterday lunchtime.
Throwing it down with big white floaty lumps of myth now in North Cardiff.
Sainsburys looked like it had by ram raided earlier.
That picture of Manchester... are people in the UK really bothered about that little snow?
Our office Glaswegian just declared 'tapps on'....
How are you acclimatizing Mike?!
That picture of Manchester… are people in the UK really bothered about that little snow?
Nah, I think 10 years ago faced with that level of 'travel chaos' outside their door most of the of the UK Population would have declared it a snow day and stayed at home to moan about how the UK grinds to a halt with a 'tiny bit of snow'. It was the perfect marriage of two of the most popular pastimes in the UK, slacking off and moaning.
Then we had those 2 'proper winters' ('09 and '10 I think) when it really was slightly tricky to genuinely dangerous to travel and we suddenly all morphed into Scott of the Antarctic, winter tyres became a thing in Britain, people bought sleds and kept them in the garage and almost expected it to snow every winter, only normal service returned - a couple of flakes once or twice a year, but post-'proper winter' we couldn't just run for home the moment someone shouted "IT'S SETTLING!!!!" Which was a shame really.
Anyway - in the UK, thanks to the gutter tabloids we only really associate 'Bad Winter Weather' with Snow - but that's not really the story with this, we might get some proper snow on Thursday and Friday, but the forecast is constantly changing as the info updates - of course the sort of people who read the gutter tabloids are screaming "why can't they make their bloody minds up!" as if forecasters set the weather and they let us know their plans "colder than average Winter in Spring, coming right up!" (Meteorological Spring starts on Wednesday). No 'The Beast from the East' is a wind, caused by the Jet Stream not doing it's job again - just like every other time we have bad weather.
We might have to get used to this sort of thing though, Moscow is about the same latitude as the Scottish Borders, it's only the Jet Stream that makes the UK as lot warmer than it really should be given the distance from the equator, if climate change changes it, we'll have to get used to being a lot colder - yes, 'Global Warming = colder UK". Funny how things work out sometimes.
I bet a few other countries are pissing themselves with laughter at the Beast from the East and Threat to Life headlines going on over here.
That picture of Manchester… are people in the UK really bothered about that little snow?
Bothered? Just completely unprepared and not able to deal with it, as pointed out this is not that normal especially low down 😉
A lot of side streets were not really gritted, there were massive hold ups with people taking 90mins to get 3 miles down stockport way this morning, plenty of knocks and bumps, M62 had a nasty one near liverpool. Imagine that a proportion of these people are on nice novelty rubber band tyres, don't drive in snow etc. and have no idea how to react. However up the road into the Pennies people have winter tyres, heaps of grit bins and lots of gritting.
As for the pic it was just the novelty for me, considerably different to the 32c it was in Melb today where my mate was winding me up from. 1 month into the UK and I've got a lot more warm clothes 🙂
I bet a few other countries are pissing themselves with laughter at the Beast from the East and Threat to Life headlines going on over here.
I doubt it, 10 Deaths in Europe so far and it's not really started yet.There are similar warnings being given in all countries effected by it.
It's all about expectation and planning, My SIL lives on Long Island, this sort of weather wouldn't cause a stir there, pretty much every winter they will see weeks of snow, temps well below freezing, but because they have it most, if not every year they're prepared for - their infrastructure is designed for it and the people who live there are used to it and act accordingly.
We, and by We I mean soft southerners, don't - there's no point having 100 Snow Ploughs on standby in London, because they'd go a decade between jobs usually. You don't need to be a Rocket Surgeon to know that if you're trapped in your car overnight without heat or appropriate clothing when it's -6c you may die. My SIL has a nice big blanket in her car, it's never less then 50% full of fuel and she's got some canned food etc, even though it's actually pretty rare to get stuck over there, they're used to it - here, the motorway will still be full of people without any of that, and every time it snows a couple of dozen people will spend the night stuck in their car.
We're not unique in the fact that we're bad a dealing with Weather we're not really used to - Sydney Siders can't drive in the rain in my experience (and it actually rains there quiet often) and in the middle east they sit around shivering in big coats if it's 15c because few of their homes have heating.
+1 nothing compared to 1947 and 1962/3.
The stats are mind boggling and would have millenials scrambling to build rockets for a new life on another planet 🙂
Fears that the English channel would completely freeze over ! It did freeze over up to a mile out and 4 miles out from Dunkirk! 6 inches of snow in MCR city centre in one day during the last week of December 1962 .I was born in central MCR that week,my mum will never forget it,she was worried that I might not survive that winter-no central heating just a coal fire in one room.Temperature below freezing for over 2 months.Record depth of snow measured in England over 6 feet or something ridiculous.1947 wasn't far behind either not just in the UK but all over Europe.The social history is intriguing too,millions of livestock lost,power cuts,death threats to government ministers and the US having to bail out a frozen Europe.
Apparently March 2013 was the third coldest on record but I can't recall it being that bad.
Every single flippin year I have to point this out:
Every country plans for its normal weather, and they don't worry about the occasional exceptional few days. We're no different. What would the point of us spending the same amount of money as Minnesota does on snow prep for a few days a year? You'd be whining about taxes being wasted, wouldn't you? And you'd be right. It's the same reason we don't have a tornado alert public broadcast system, and why Austria doesn't have a tsunami alert system.
+1 nothing compared to 1947 and 1962/3.
The stats are mind boggling and would have millenials scrambling to build rockets for a new life on another planet
And? Not sure what your point is caller. Wandering around Manchester last night it was getting bitterly cold and way beyond Feb expected, The impact on a lot of people is worth warning and dealing with unless you think they are expendable and should remember it's not as bad as 63. Given these events are very far apart and NOT THE NORMAL it is something a responsible government and press inform us about and give helpful hints TO THOSE NOT ABLE TO REMEMBER 63 what they should be doing.
Given the hectic state of the road and rail network and the mass of people that are now travelling much further for work every day compared to them the chances of an event snowballing (pun intended) into something are significant. A car getting stuck can mean 10 getting stuck, that then has an impact for emergency services and critical workers getting into work etc. I'd rather people planned well and we had hospitals and fire stations properly staffed and a few people coming in late rather than everyone getting up and rushing off in the worst of it.
Beast from the East a myth, yes, as much so as the Beast OF the East, that section of over named trail at Thetford.
Certainly gets people heated though, eh?
The stats are mind boggling and would have millenials scrambling to build rockets for a new life on another planet
Yeah, I remember how everyone was basically double hard and triple tough until 1983 when they put the ‘pussy gene’ in the water.
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Had an email from my daughters school, “snow is falling heavily and conditions are rapidly deteriorating - please come and pick your children up ASAP”. Looked out of my window thinking the forcast must be wrong expecting to see 4ft drifts and my road blocked . We had an inch at best. Welcome to Surrey.