MrsIHN and I have decided, to assuage our middle-class environmental guilt, to eat much less meat. She is a recovering vegetarian anyway and I've been told to reduce my cholesterol, so it all works out nicely. Except...
We're now eating quite a lot of beans, pulses, grains etc and, by 'eck, they play havoc with my innards. Am I doomed to have the digestive excreta of your average dairy cow, both gaseous and 'solid', for the rest of my days? Will my guts get used to it and calm down after a while? Is there anything I can take to accelerate this process?
*insert Johnny Fartpants gif here*
I'm with you on this. 3 days of pulses and i'm singlehandedly responsible for a spike in global warming. The only way is 3 days on, one day off. Go big on your day off and you'll 'reset'.
onions are worse than beans
potential source of propulsion there
This has never happened to me. I can eat tons of beans and cabbage and so on, I get nothing.
Maybe I can send you some of my poo?
Put a couple of fried eggs on top.
IME keep your fibre levels consistent to minimise gaseous output.
Aha - what you have is an inbalance in gut bacteria thus you need a feacal transplant*
I am joking but this is a possibility
I eat loads of beans and pulses, usually mixed with rice and I don't fart like a trooper all the time. I buy the dried ones, Borlotti, Pinto, black, haricot, flageolet and kidney beans. Soak them for about 10hrs then cook them up for appx 35-40min. Give them a good boil for a few min to start off then turn down to a simmer. Green lentils are a bit quicker, I've found some that don't need soaking and cook in about 10min or so. Are you buying the tinned stuff? or perhaps not soaking the dried ones for long enough, maybe cooking them too quickly perhaps?
Indian and Middle eastern People swear by adding Asafoetida to food to relive flatul....the raging farts. Worth a shot as they use a lot of onions and pulses so I expect they know a thing or two. I use it in a few dishes but as a flavouring, but ti's not expensive from Asian supermarkets so give it a go.
Last night i dined on a mushroonm, black bean and onion risotto with a healthy dose of Encona extra hot pepper sauce.
I woke in the night feeling a bit cold as my duvet was wandering around the upper part of the room in its best Montgolfier stylee.
Yup, same here. We recently endured 3 days of Mexican Bean Stew, served different ways, but all with the same outcome. Bring back mince and tatties!
I have been banned* from eating the Saag Paneer from our local Indian Restaurant. My god it's lovely, spicy spinach and cheese. I'm actually salivating right now.
But it plays absolute havoc with my innards 🙁 tasty, tasty, bastard.
*my wife has asked them to refuse to serve me the dish, and as we know the family really well (kids go to school together, I taught one of them, etc.) they have kept their word. Arse.
I fell off the wagon a few months ago for a whole week. Ate steak pie and chips twice, cheese on toast, and finished on doner meat. Drank a pint of dairy milk for the first time in a year or more. Had the squits and flocks of pigeons for nearly two weeks.
This seems to me to say that sudden and extreme changes in diet coupled with poor variety leads to unhappy constitutions. You should settle down if you vary your diet and pay attention/don’t be silly. Same goes for whether living nearly entirely on sausage rolls and beer or beans and chips
I make a chill non carne from mixed grains and regular amount of kidney beans and it gives less stomach squabble than the minced meat version IME. If OTOH you made the entire dish from mixed beans then you would expect gas.
A varied diet is best for me. Whether meat or plant-based. I never got the ‘lentil’ probs that seem to be a regular talking point, and eat them regularly, twice or more a week. Lentils are bad for your stomach, yet bread, meat and dairy are good for it? Someone has to be shitting you...
Biggest culprits for gas IME are overeating, too much bread, too many simple carbs, salted nuts, or eating nothing but simple carbs, cooked onions and beans or simple carbs and minced meat. And cooked onions. And...too much cheese. Omg. My late grandfather virtually lived on cheese sandwiches and enthusiastically endcouraged everyone else to do likewise. ‘Best food there is’. I actually followed in his fartsteps for a number of years before realising that cheese is not as healthy for the constitution as one might be lead to believe.
PS. Keva makes sense.
Fecal transplant definitely the way to go, instructions here:
https://www.theverge.com/2016/5/4/11581994/fmt-fecal-matter-transplant-josiah-zayner-microbiome-ibs-c-diff
Yeah, it sounds as though it's just your innards screeching "By 'eck!" as you totally change what they're used to processing more-or-less overnight.
I think the key is to build up immunity over time, as with most things in life.
Just because something makes you fart doesn't mean it's bad for your system...
And it's not your innards, it's the bacteria in them. If you eat more beans and veg then your gut bacteria will over time adjust to digest them better and you won't get so much farting.
There's also the simple fact that as you age your gut becomes less able to process carbohydrates.
as you age your gut becomes less able to process carbohydrates.
does it, what happens that changes it?
Well, to have the digestion of a dairy cow, you would need four stomachs:
"When the cow first eats, it chews the food just enough to swallow it. The unchewed food travels to the first two stomachs, the rumen and the reticulum, where it is stored until later. When the cow is full from this eating process, she rests. Later, the cow coughs up bits of the unchewed food called cud and chews it completely this time before swallowing it again. The cud then goes to the third and fourth stomachs, the omasum and abomasum, where it is fully digested."
Over the past year or so I've reduced meat consumption and increased veg. The result is I can almost keep up with my vegetarian mates in the farting stakes.
I've just had a homemade lentil, bean and cabbage soup for lunch. Parrrp.
Wash it down with this
To answer the OP, yes you will get used to the changed diet and you can become tolerant of foods that you used to cause a bit of a rumble.
I've got IBS and what used to cause me "issues" was citrus fruit, oats, and whole grains. 10 years on and I'm fine with fresh orange juice, museli, porridge, but eggs are now now my kryptonite. But throughly cooked omelette I'm fine with. Weird.
I've always been able to eat spicy food though. This perplexed the GP because that's the normal trigger for people with IBS.
Can you still get chilli Beanfeast? I've only seen the bolognese one for years (since back when they changed the recipe I think).
Indian and Middle eastern People swear by adding Asafoetida to food to relive flatul
Yeah, then your sweat will smell worse than any farts.
Had to stop eating baked beans altogether, I just can't deal with the fibre. Even now I snack on veggies every day and an hour later I'm waving them off on a coastal trip. I suspect I have some mild IBS, but doctors are useless and I just plan for long outdoor walks away from people after a lot of beer, beans, lentils, broccoli or spicy foods (I pretty much only eat spicy foods).
Yeah i eat a hugely varied diet but pulses, beans and lots of vegetables certainly increase the wind compared with meat, fish, salad and simple carbs like bread. I just embrace it though as i know it's good for me.
Can you still get chilli Beanfeast?
Dunno, I'll look tomorrow & if not I'll get bolognese & put some chilli in.
I know everyone's different and all, but for me this is just caused by eating too much.... And that varies depending on how much exercise I've done. Seems that the more my body manages to take out of the food, the less there is left for other flora to gaseate!
But, yeah, sure you're not just over-eating?
I have this on a month on month off rotation.
Work offshore, so every 4 weeks I get a significant change in diet style.
Although I minimise meat eating when on the rig it’s more than when at home, where we are mostly veggie based.
The first few days at work are monstrous. When back At home I have another reset. Maveric Prowles...
Is there anything I can take to accelerate this process?
Tbh, I’d think the last thing you’d want would be an accelerant...
sudden and extreme changes in diet coupled with poor variety leads to unhappy constitutions. You should settle down if you vary your diet and pay attention/don’t be silly.
^^this^^
I recently spent a whole week in Cyprus eating mostly salad and fish, rather than the meat and carb laden diet I get at home, that had me a bit backed up for a week or two when I got back while my gut adjusted/readjusted.
Thing is I much prefer the Mediterranean diet, and its probably much better for me, now I'm back home and eating toast and dead land animals again every day, I'm pretty regular but I'm back to killing the planet and getting fatter as a result...
Well worth a read, if not a purchase..
https://www.amazon.com/Haribo-SUGAR-Classic-Gummi-Bears/product-reviews/B006J1FBLM
