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Not a big rant, I just can't get that emotional about it, but why is Bill Turnble, a respected BBC news reader, narrating songs of praise like it was the given truth on a supposed unbiased station like BBC1 at prime time on a Sunday?
As I said, not that bothered as I can make my own mind up, but surely he was the wrong man for the job?
What do you think?
Bill Turnbull is always the wrong man for any job
Is that really still on? I thought that died in the 70s.
"Bill, d'you want Songs of Praise?, £25K for a bit of narration?"
"Oh, go on then."
narrating songs of praise like it was the given truth on a supposed unbiased station like BBC1 at prime time on a Sunday?
well it is a programme for those who like god- not seen it for decades - is it still basically a service in a church?
What do you expect Dawkins like tutting and disdain?
You may as well moan that football commentators appear to like football and dont call it wendyball,top gear presenters appear to like cars etc
Its not the news and unbiased means something for everyone in the entertainment stakes including the religious who . I assume, watch this.
Now if they start putting a slot in the middle of the news then I will get cross #stopthoughtfortheday
It's not known as the 'God slot' for nothing, you know. They've been showing it for decades, or had it just slipped your notice?
And as for unbiased, this is, supposedly, a nominally Christian country, and SoP is about the only recognition of that fact on national TV.
Whether you like it or not Christians have as much right to some recognition of their faith as anybody else.
And before you start flaming me, I'm not a Christian, I'm a Pantheistic Humanist, I don't care one way or another what others believe in, I just ignore any faith-based radio or TV programming.
As I suggest you do, you'll find life a lot less stressful that way.
I blame john reith
Bill Turnbull? Respected? [i]Newsreader[/i]?
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What CountZero said...
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Bill Turntable is a muppet, sounds like the best man for the job.
Hmm, as I said I can make my own decisions, I was simple questioning the use of a newsreader to preach.
Ho hum.
Just because he's a newsreader, is he not entitled to his belief, and indeed to share it on a religious program?
Like said before - if he was proposing his belief on the news instead, that'd be a different matter. But it's not the news, it's a specialist program.
Stop calling him a newsreader! He's a presenter. They don't even call it 'Breakfast News' anymore because they don't do any news.
They should have got Susanna Reid to present it in a naughty nuns outfit, that would be a religious experience.
If only there was another channel...
I'm with MSP..then I'd watch. 🙂
Some interesting responses, I shall have a ponder & refrain from exposing my thoughts to the STW massive in future as you are all clearly cleverer than me.
Cheers.
Awwwwwwww
In fairness, reading the news is just reading an auto cue. Maybe he doesn't believe the news/ agree with what he's saying and he just does it for the money. Maybe he's a Christian and sop is his true passion, and for anyone who believes, it is the truth and it is very hard to argue with faith!
You didn't 'expose your thoughts' you asked what we thought. We told you.
you are all clearly cleverer than me
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Although I am genuinely interested in why you haven't figured out that there is no logical reason for you to sit and watch Songs of Praise.
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And also to ask :
[i] "surely he was the wrong man for the job?
What do you think?" [/i]
makes no sense if you're not interested in people's opinions.
Oh come on, the question I put out was obviously something that I had thought about & I was concerned enough about it to warrant a post.
So Yes I thought it was wrong to use a 'presenter' that is also used to present 'shit' but then I'm no keyboard worrier that can keep up with STW.
I simply thought it would provoke a decent debate, I was clearly wrong.
Cheers.
I take it from your strop that watching Songs of Praise wasn't an uplifting spiritual experience for you which filled you with an overwhelming sense of peace ?
I like it
AFAIK the BBC, as a condition of it's licence, has to broadcast religious programmes.
I'm going to be unashamedly unPC now and mention that I caught about 5 minutes of the programme last week when there was a group of absolutely gorgeous young ladies singing in an Irish choral group. Stunning. Didn't notice who the presenter was though, sorry 😉
Hi 2U2R.
Ernie, no it wasn't. I'm not religious but I do feel that religion is something that should be respected.
BTW, I was watching as I was to lazy to change channel after the GP as I moved over to the computer.
Hi back to psling, are you a worrier now then ? 😉
I was watching as I was to lazy to change channel
Well I'm not surprised that you're angry then !
Still, never mind.
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but I do feel that religion is something that should be respected.
Oh FFS!
My Mum watched it and sang along when I was growing up. I assume she still does. If so, I suspect that she's probably the youngest (in her 60s), and quite possibly the only, viewer.
surfer - Member
Oh FFS!
Why the problem, Is religion not something to be respected then?
Atheist in lack of tolerance shocker. Because you can't rationalise it and don't have it - belief is wrong. Does it bloody matter, live and let live eh?
That's nothing. How can the BBC get away with spending a BILLION pounds on their new news building. It is an extension FFS! I can't believe nobody has made more of a fuss about this. A billion pounds!!!????
I'm not religious but I do feel that religion is something that should be respected.
You don't seem to have much respect for someone who wishes to be seen on a religious programme, irrespective of what he does as a day job.
I'm not a channel-hopper, unlike my dad, who used to drive my mum nuts, but I'm not so damned lazy not to switch channels if there's something on TV I'm not in the slightest bit interested in watching.
It's not difficult to do, you just press a couple of buttons.
But then you'd have nothing to rant about on STW...
I think I don't care who presents it as I don't watch it.
CountZero, I have no idea why you should be so angry about it, but it is as simple as I didn't bother to turn the telly off whilst I went back to the PC, therefor I could hear the TV whilst I [s]played with my willy[/s] answered emails.
Junkyard #stopthoughtfortheday
I quite like Thought for the Day 🙂 It's often the only time I think about anything important, rather than just what I'm going to eat, how much work I have to do, worrying about life in general etc.
Not religious but I like the ethos.
user-removed - MemberJunkyard #stopthoughtfortheday
I quite like Thought for the Day It's often the only time I think about anything important, rather than just what I'm going to eat, how much work I have to do, worrying about life in general etc.
Not religious but I like the ethos.
Thought for the Day can sometimes start promisingly, but then a virtual one of these is produced:
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and God, Jesus, The Prophet, or a Hindu or Sikh deity is forcibly inserted into a previously coherent, but not obviously religious, piece....
I've always assumed that Thought for The Day is just there to give the Today presenters time for a quick trip to the toilet between news bulletins.
This is a bit like when some people got upset at Martin Sheen demonstrating against the war in Iraq, because he played the president on TV.
Atheist in lack of tolerance [s]for fairy stories being rammed down their throats and having to pay for the privelage[/s] shocker
FIFY
Rabbi Lionel Blue was often very amusing and definatey confirmed it was "thought for the day". Can't see what people's objection is as its as relevant as any of the guff that get spouted on the today programme. They don't do news any more the do speculation and presenter ego massage. Just do the news and then get some decent stuff on the radio. Yesterday's afternoon play was great, get more stuff like that on between 7 and 9 am.
mt - MemberRabbi Lionel Blue was often very amusing and definatey confirmed it was "thought for the day".
Indeed. Always a relief when it turned out to be his turn.
Can't see what people's objection is as [b]its as relevant as any of the guff that get spouted on the today programme[/b].
Er, really?
An hour or so of Today programme in the morning sets me up for the day. Remember folks, take any news or current affairs with a critical eye/ear.
I used to hate it, now I simply turn it off when they start/can't be bothered with it. If anything they should either allow humanists to have a thought for the day or simply rename it 'Religious Thought for the Day'. And if you're going to keep it religious allow all religions a chance. It would be interesting to get the Jedi (not ukbikeskills, though I don't know..) point of view, or scientology or devil worshippers etc.
Perhaps put klaxons before and after it too.
Was watching it last evening because I saw one gorgeous blonde babe singing solo but generally was just being curious of watching the "ceremony" and the facial expression of those people singing ...
As far as the programme goes it's rather relaxing knowing that the weekend is over.
Given the subject matter/content and the time it is on, Songs of Praise seems an ideal [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_activity ]displacement activity[/url] for teenagers across the nation procrastinating about doing their maths homework due in the next morning.
Also, it is just what I would expect from a public service broadcaster in a constitutional monarchy whose head of state is also the head of the armed forces and "defender of the faith" of the Church of England. When my tax contributions stop funding all that, I will write in and complain about my TV licence funding songs of praise. *runs for cover*
I'm not a Christian, I'm a Pantheistic Humanist,
Just choose one and stick with it ffs
Can't see what people's objection is as its as relevant as any of the guff that get spouted on the today programme.
This is just an opinion as someone of deep faith tries [ often with no subtly ] to shoe horn the latest events into an explanation of their deities mystical master plan - bit like you subtly shoe horned that argument in though I suspect they mean what they say more than you do 😉
I dont really object to it per se just when it is on and that their is no non religious option. its like the compulsory act of worship in schools it just hard to avoid as it is always delivered irrespective of your view - why not broadcast it on Long Wave or give it a nice tune like the Shipping Forecast 😉
FWIW the presenters are not allowed to comment on that section either just simply introduce it.
It reminds me to switch the radio off and get up though so its not all bad.
Of course christians/ther religioys deserve their own programmes just like every other niche type be it celebrity "the Voice" or whoever it is that watches perido dramas
julianwilson - MemberSongs of Praise.....
...Also, it is just what I would expect from a public service broadcaster in a constitutional monarchy whose head of state is also the head of the armed forces and "defender of the faith" of the Church of England.
Yes, it is a shame that, in some senses, the UK is still lagging behind much of the rest of Europe, somewhere in the Middle Ages. I can never quite fathom the fawning forelock tugging and homage to a publicly-funded pseduo-Disneyland-dwelling family ([i]gaw bless'em[/i]) protecting our [i]faith[/i] -from whom?
When my tax contributions stop funding all that, I will write in and complain about my TV licence funding songs of praise. *runs for cover*
Well, we can only hope that it happens soon.
I dont really object to it per se
I do object to the condescending and sanctimonious Anne Atkins and as far as I am concerned there is no place in hell hot enough!
Lionel Bloom sounds like an OK bloke
surfer - Member
Atheist in lack of tolerance for fairy stories being rammed down their throats and having to pay for the privelage shocker
FIFY
Don't you just love tolerance!
Surfer obviously has a problem with people who have a different world view than he...
Chill out Surfer!
bill turnbull
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c u next tuesday
Don't you just love tolerance!
When it suits us eh?
Surfer obviously has a problem with people who have a different world view than he...
Not really if you want to believe in fairy stories then be my guest, just give back all the cash.
Surfer obviously has a problem with people who have a different world view than he...
Chill out Surfer!
Me personally or the world in general...?
mt - MemberRabbi Lionel Blue was often very amusing and definatey confirmed it was "thought for the day".
Hello mt, hello surfer, hello Junky etc, etc.
Lionel's a bit of a star, and when we think about it, in a very real way, aren't we all occaisionally?
I remember my aunt Jemima saying to me, many years ago................... etc, etc.
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Man's a genius. 😀
Dont know, is there something you want to share?
Not really if you want to believe in fairy stories then be my guest, just give back all the cash.
Why's that - do only atheists pay their license fee ?
I was thinking more broadly Ernie, you know, tax free status, exemptions, government handouts etc.
the UK is still lagging behind much of the rest of Europe, somewhere in the Middle Ages
I have lived in both the Netherlands and Germany and I would say that religion is much more firmly embedded in public life in both.
What's "Songs of Praise"?
Mr Woppit - Member
What's "Songs of Praise"?
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My weekly connection with Jehovah.
surfer - Member
Dont know, is there something you want to share?
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Depends... Will you absolve me of my sins...?
Mr Woppit - MemberWhat's "Songs of Praise"?
The reason remotes were invented and why most of us can operate them
What's "Songs of Praise"?
its what we all sing when you appear on a religious thread 😉
Depends... Will you absolve me of my sins...?
I'll give it a go. You seem like a nice chap
Ok 😀
How on earth can anyone have a rant about songs of praise? 😆
Some people need to get out a bit more, stop shouting at the tv.