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If you get the chance to watch this, it's worth it.
Whether you like/agree/disagree/hate graffiti this programme is well worth catching on iPlayer.
Ooh sweet...back in the day....that was me !!..lol
I still got my " subway art & spray can art" books
Recording now.
It was an actual good tv program.
Pretty dull, really. A superficial programme not worthy of BBC4.
It's all "moving" or "Amazing," - plenty of description but not much analysis. What little analysis there was, I reckon was wrongly interpreted.
Thanks will catch it on iPlayer, had my TV allocation today with Bake Off and Newsnight coming up ! Variety
Cheers for the heads up. Will give that a viewing, and revisit my mis-doesn't youth
Are they taking the *ing piss?! Seriously?! Just turned it off in utter disgust! Some smug middle class * talking about it like its a career choice for graduates who want to get 'their Work' into North London galleries to sell to other rich North London *-wits?! That's 'Graf' (FFS!!!! You utter *!!!!!) is it?
I could happily launch into an absolute diatribe, but I wont. Beyond parody. Sat watching it slack jawed in amazement at how unbelievably Ill informed and self-indulgent and just plain *ing moronic that was!!!!
Oooooo - you've got you're bonus from The City? Should we buy a Banksy? I've heard they're terribly fashionable
Bunch of utter *s!!! Kill 'em all!!!
Binners you are a legend, let me take you to Greggs and fill your boots, its on me 😆
binners - Member
Are they taking the *ing piss?! Seriously?! Just turned it off in utter disgust! Some smug middle class * talking about it like its a career choice for graduates who want to get 'their Work' into North London galleries to sell to other rich North London *-wits?! That's 'Graf' (FFS!!!! You utter *!!!!!) is it?I could happily launch into an absolute diatribe, but I wont. Beyond parody. Sat watching it slack jawed in amazement at how unbelievably Ill informed and self-indulgent and just plain *ing moronic that was!!!!
Oooooo - you've got you're bonus from The City? Should we buy a Banksy? I've heard they're terribly fashionable
Bunch of utter *s!!! Kill 'em all!!!
Erm....
Not happy with the subject matter then?
😆
apart from that binners loved the program 🙂
haven't seen it myself yet,but i do love graffiti when it's well done.
tagging though is just rubbish.
Banksy works sell for £250-£400k, seems obvious there is a substantial market at lower price points - so why not @binners
BECAUSE ITS NOT ABOUT THE *ING MONEY!!!!!!!! FFS!!!!!!!
Why the * is it that absolutely everything is now judged exclusively by how high a monetary value is placed on it by some swaggering Hoxton dickwad who gauges what some other *s who work in the city will spaff on it, in a desperate attempt to try and look edgy in front of their coke-addled dinner party guests, by hanging it on the exposed brickwork of their loft apartments.
*s!!!
These chardonnay sipping, chin stroking cockwombles wouldn't know anything of genuine cultural value if it came up behind them in a subway, punched them in the back of the head, gave them a brutal shoeing, and relieved them of all their possessions.
Not that I'm wishing that on them, you understand?
Haven't watched it yet (recorded as was out riding), but the commercial art world has always 'adopted' 'low culture' styles and artifacts for their own ends. The Banksys of this world will be more than aware of this.
Guess as an 'insider' Binners feels the misappropriation of culture and meaning more acutely then most of us in this context. FWIW I tend to agree with him though.
Didn't watch it but 'old' graffiti is fascinating. At the church where I volunteer, a graffiti group (I kid you not) visited with their lamps and declared that the church had a huge amount of graffiti. Did see an engraved axe on a wall.
Oh and binners - 9/10 for an amusing rant. 😆
Agree with every word Mr Binman. And put your stupid oversized collar down you posh ****
Watching it reminded me of this.
Go on.. tell us what you really think.. 😆
some swaggering Hoxton dickwad
Yes, a lot of these around.. but then there have always been a lot of these around the Art world, even back in the Warhol days.. 8) Never short of seeing value in anything, think of them as educated rag n bone men of the Art world and you'd not be far wrong. You maybe more comfortable with cream chino'/stripy shirt/jumper over shoulder/velour jacket/quaffed hair types "Art Dealers" from the 90's 😆
****s who work in the city will spaff on it, in a desperate attempt to try and look edgy in front of their coke-addled dinner party guests
Very few of these types anymore, I think the days you still refer back to are the 90's when perhaps you were excluded from one of these events, since then you've carried over a grudge.. 😆
hanging it on the exposed brickwork of their loft apartments
Well, yes there are a lot of these, but the exposed brick you refer to is again, sorry, few and far between. Most have now adopted clean walls, sparsely populated with single pieces of furniture. Again, you seem to be caught up in the 90's 😛
Art frrrrr Art sake' but the programme was for insight to the world of Graff' and it most certainly brought that to the fore. Some insightful interviews with the Parisian Graff' artisans, that Rat fella.. whilst I know/knew a little of his work it was great to seem interviewed for a change, get his point across and air his works.
I also liked the presenter. A slight hint of Manc accent, thought that'd be right down your cul de sac Binners. A fresh face for BBC4 Arts insightful presenting..
😆 @ bb
Nice clam-rage from Binners 😆
Insight was totally missing form the programme. Can you think of any provided by the presenter or the US graf artist? Blek le Rat was the one high point.
As CG noticed, there's so much graffiti around that just wasn't picked up on, from the Viking letters on stone age chambers in Orkney to the Civil War inscriptions in many English churches, to the modern celebrations of street art like Up-fest 3 weeks ago, that I consider superficiality to be the key aspect of the programme. A bit like lots of street-art, appropriately.
Some smug middle class **** talking about it
Dr Richard Clay BA, MA, PhD
Senior Lecturer in History of Art, University of Birmingham