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Looking to update an en suite bathroom.  Very basic like for like type affair, sink, toilet and shower cubicle.

Room is fully tiled and approx 2m x 2m, just under in fact, so pretty small.  I would expect all plasterboard to need replacing.

Had a quote in and I'm gobsmacked. Any builders here that might be able to give me some perspective?  What would people expect to be paying for a job like this, and how long would it take a decent builder?

Tiles will be pretty large and basic i.e. nothing intricate that will take huge amounts of time.  Location is Cheshire for reference.

Any guidance appreciated and doing it DIY is not an option.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:05 pm
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You probably don't want a builder for that kind of job.

£5k. A week.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:07 pm
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The user blazing saddles recently posted, perhaps a couple of weeks ago, some helpful comments on this as it's his day job.  Will see if I can find the link as I know that I posted.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:12 pm
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I'm pulling up a chair - we've a 1.8x2m bathroom needing doing shortly


 
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How long is a piece of string?  How expensive are the bits and bobs you need?  I paid hundreds of pounds for a shower tap thingy and bought a cheaper bath filler which I now regret.  Its astonishing how quickly taps and the like can add up to eye watering sums. Bathfiller, shower taps and accessories, sink tap could easily be £1000+  Bathroom suite can be a few hundred or a few thousand

Replacing all the plasterboard?  Again to what standard do you want it doing ie skimmed and tanked or tiles straight on the plasterboard?  Extractor fan - crappy little one or big powerful one with remote fan?

I have redone two bathrooms in recent years.  Done mainly to a high standard but the few cheaper options I went for I now regret.  Rubbish fan in one needs to be replaced and cheapo bath filler needs to be replaced

Mainly done Diy with a pro tiler who was expensive but meticulous.  I could not have got the same finish and his work makes other bathrooms I see look really poorly done.  Because of that its hard to be sure what it would have cost to get it all done by a pro but given the amount of my time and the cost of materials I would guess getting someone in to do it to the same standard would be somewhere around £7000 for the small one, fair bit more for the bigger one.  Both were completely stripped out and replastered / part reboarded


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:19 pm
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Sorry OP, got meself confused and that wasn't the thread I wanted although it will be helpful.


 
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I had a quote of just shy of £8k for a full refit of my bathroom (which is smaller than your ensuite...). I'll be doing it myself I think.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:24 pm
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Everything seems to start at £10k now!

So I'm saying £13k! 🙂


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:25 pm
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Location is Cheshire

over £10k?


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:25 pm
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Just paid £4300 just for the fitting and tiling of our ensuite, bath suite, tiles and taps on top.

Size of the bathroom didn't make much difference to the fitting cost when we compared it to our friends


 
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An acquaintance of mine spent £22k on his ensuite and dressing room.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:28 pm
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Any guidance appreciated and doing it DIY is not an option.

Can you use a hammer and chisel?

With it being en-suite (implies you have access to another bathroom) you could do a lot of the ripping out yourself and leave the disconnecting of sinks etc to a plumber. Could save you a few quid.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:30 pm
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I’m pulling up a chair – we’ve a 1.8x2m bathroom needing doing shortly

Pfft I have a 1.7x1.3m bathroom I am startin to get prices for.

Let's see who can get the highest per squareetre quote.

Current highest quote from Wickes is 7.5k...

That was just a fact finding mission had no intention of going witha store


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:39 pm
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Pfft I have a 1.7×1.3m bathroom I am startin to get prices for.

Sounds more like a cloakroom than a bathroom 😉


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:44 pm
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We paid around £5k for a downstairs loo re-decoration just before lockdown. Given how the costs of everything has gone up, for an ensuite with shower I would reckon on £8k.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:49 pm
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Thats something I’d supply and fit for less than £3k. Assuming its mid range fittings etc. If you are going for platinum plated taps, then it’d be £10k.

Seriously, I’d be looking at £1500 for me, £1500 for parts.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:51 pm
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including replasterboarding ?


 
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Sounds more like a cloakroom than a bathroom 😉

I know, it's hilarious how small it is. It's also hilarious what the last owner put in it, I can practically do laps in the basin.

Upside though, pricing per metre units are normally the actual price.

It has also made me really really realise that a small bathroom makes so much sense. It's big enough for two people to wash a dog in the bath. And gets toasty warm at the drop of a hat.

I might actually be a bit of a nightmare because I want specific stuff to make it feel less "caravan shitter"


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:54 pm
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Alan, fancy a week's stay in Peebles?...


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:55 pm
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5 day's labour £1500.

Fittings plus materials £1000 - £3000 depends where you shop.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 6:59 pm
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Thanks for all replies so far!  Would you expect a job like this to be a one man effort or would it need builder/plumber/tiler/spark all coming in at different times?

A couple of successful guesses as to price so far!!  Clue, it ain't being done by alanl, unless he's available!!?


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 7:08 pm
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Alan, fancy a week’s stay in Peebles?…

Commuting distance!

I’m in Fechan from Mid-september. I’m not sure how much time I’ll have, so cannot commit, I’m rather busy.

The plaster walls, I’d be tempted to line it with concrete/waterproof board before tiling. It gives a good flat surface for the tiles, and doesnt rot away liek plasterboard if it ever gets wet (it shouldnt get wet!). A 2m square room works out at around £200 for the boards.


 
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We had someone in doing a load of work to our heating a couple of years ago (going from cold / hot tanks running on gravity to a system boiler with pressurised hot water tank) and he said we would be looking at £8k ish for a budget ish bathroom replacement. Our bathroom isn’t big - has a bath with a shower over it (700mm x 1680mm bath), toilet, sink, towel radiator thing. Mental.

I think I’m going to have a go at it myself, other than plastering (need an artexed ceiling plastered over, fix any holes where tiles come off and will have tiles put back on, then a finished surface to be painted where no tiles are going). Going to part tile/  part painted walls, just replace the electric shower like for like as only a cold water feed there and probably antico type floor.

I think it’s still going to cost quite a few thousand for parts as don’t want to go too cheap and have to replace again anytime soon.

The previous owners went cheap and the toilet flush isn’t the best / bath is plastic and marks easily / floor is laminate which is daft in a damp bathroom / tiles were put in by someone who must have done it in the dark etc etc. As we have a seperate en-suite and seperate wet room I should be able to take my time over the tiling etc.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 7:17 pm
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Just having a quick look on victorianplumbing.co.uk

You can get an en-suite bathroom suite (toilet, basin & shower enclosure) for between £400 and £1000. Let's go £500 for argument's sake.

Thermostatic shower with fixed overhead and handheld with flexihose is ~£150.

Mixer tap for the basin is ~£60

Tiles to cover 2m x 2m ( 16m^2 total) vary between £25 - 80/m^2, let's go £40/m^2 + 10% overage so £704

Towel rail = £99.95

Vanity unit under basin could be anything between £110 and silly money, lets go £240

Mirror with LED surround and shaving socket = £200

Lighting, I'm assuming ip65 LED downlights x 4 @ £10 each from screwfix = £40

So that's as near as dammit £2000 just for the bathroom fittings themselves, without going daft for the likes of Porcelanosa.

A day to rip out the old bathroom and prep for the new one - around £300 + I'm guessing at ~£200 for a skip.

1/2 day each for plumbing and wiring - around £200 per trade + whatever is needed for the plumbing/wiring, maybe another £100 = £500

New plasterboard e.g. Knauff moisture resistant is around £20 a sheet and you'll need at least 7 = £140 plus a couple of days for fitting and tiling = around £750 total

Fitting of bathroom suite could be done in a day, so another £300 ish.

Painting would be another day @ ~£300

That's another £2350 in labour, at what would be cheap day rates where I live.

Stick on another 20% for VAT plus the usual sundries, wear and tear, organising the subbies, etc. that gets added onto every main contractor bill and I reckon your quotes will be starting at around the £6k region.

FWIW, with almost no prior DIY experience I replaced our 2m x 2m downstairs bathroom with new suite and tiling on every wall and I spent less than £1000. That was shopping around for the best deals on basin, toilet, shower tray and a major discount on the last few boxes of a big grey tile from B&Q that ended up costing me about £6/m^2. Took me about a week all in.

EDIT - I run analytical laboratories and not a building/plumbing company so take the above with a healthy pinch of salt. I may have forgotten to mention the requirement for hydrocoptic marzelvanes in your toilet flushing mechanism, or how correct tanking of the shower area is needed to prevent water getting into the shower tray's lunar waneshaft.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 7:23 pm
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We're also looking at replacing an ensuite roughly similar size.

Checked out a couple of bathroom places, seemed to suggest I'd be look £6.5k and upwards for them to do a full supply and fit. That would be nothing fancy.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 7:32 pm
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I did 2 bathrooms c 5 years ago, moved the sink and removed a bidet.  Was 5k per bathroom, mid price units, tiles, sink, new window, decent taps

I d say double it now as I did all the chasing about.

Look good tho


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 7:42 pm
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Here goes... we're getting ours re-done right this week (and next) bringing ourselves from the 1980s into the 21st century.
The room is small - about 2.5m x 1.5m. With the quirk of the room going part way into the eaves (so in cross section it's got one of the top corners cropped off at 45 degrees).

Added faff is its an old stone cottage, 3ft thick walls, thinner floor voids than a normal house (exposed beams downstairs) etc..so just more faff.

The floor boarding to be renewed (got wet / rotten), replaster all round, etc.

Toilet, sink+cabinet, shower enclosure, illuminated cabinet, nice new coloured towel radiator, lighting, fan. New shower tray, new glass screens.  We bought not-cheap tiles (so about 18m sq total surfaces) + a some mosaic 'tiles' and a niiice thermo shower and rail/ shower head (those were not cheap at all from Hansgrohe).  New exterior DG window too, whilst we're at it.

We got an estimate from John Lewis.  £22-24k !!!!!!!!!  **** that. Ludicrous..

Got the stuff from a combo on Willbond and Easy Bathrooms. Picked up some waterproof laminate flooring cheap (and remainder will get used in the porch).

I reckon we're going to spend about £12.5k total.

- £3.5 in the 'big' parts (bog, sink, shower tray + glass screens + shower + radiator  + flooring.

£900 on the tiles.

Labour + 'small' materials (inc new 3.5ft x 2.5ft window, lighting floor boards ) is gonna be about £8k

So looking like circa £12.5k for the lot.

Not done 'cheap' - we want it to last as we're in this house until we're in a home or in a box. But I can't see it have been reduced much even if we'd have gone cheap...maybe save £400 with cheap tiles and not fully tiled, maybe save £200 if we'd got a cheapo shower.

But the bulk of the ££ is 2 weeks of labour and repairs to the flooring + walls to make it good to start with.  We know the guy and his work is good.

( £1500  a week labour  and a grand on parts ? Sounds dodgey-bodgey or slumland landlord style to me)


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 7:46 pm
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2.6x2m bathroom here - just DIYed it. Only thing I'm paying someone to do is lay the flooring, as I could do it, but didn't want to cock it up 😆 and end up paying for it twice.

Toilet and sink reused, as they're nice, modern units the previous owner put in.

New shower (all in one cubicle - won't leak, and very easy assembly), replaced some water damaged 22mm chipboard flooring, new tiling around sink, new blinds, new mirror unit + shelves, new light fittings.

All-in cost of fittings and materials + flooring and fitting is £1150.

Time spent approximately - 30 hours. So paying someone the going rate would probably add £1000-1500?

Did it quite simple, but looks pretty nice. Modern but not ott.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 8:07 pm
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prices are pisstaking.  do it yourself.  no need to replace the plasterboard.  if you have to you could overboard with cement tile backer this makes tiling super easy.  acrylic seal and then some tanking stuff for proper belt and braces.  I did my ensuite in a week with no prior experience.  I also had to raise the floor level and adjust a cast iron stack to add to the fun.  electrics should be able to reuse existing connections unless it's very very old.  nothing that needs doing requires major brain power.  it's all on YouTube, you will just need to take your time.

if you are tiling your yourself the hardest part is planning the layout.  and a tip.  complex built ins with cubby holes and large format tiles will mean alot of cutting!


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 8:27 pm
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£1500  a week labour  and a grand on parts ? Sounds dodgey-bodgey or slumland landlord style to me)

£1500 a week plus VAT is the going rate round here for fitting.  My installs start at £6.5k generally

2-3 weeks work in things like this…


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 8:34 pm
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Blazin - assume you not Cheshire based?


 
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Ohhh Can see me stubbing my toe on that step up


 
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£1500 a week labour and a grand on parts ? Sounds dodgey-bodgey or slumland landlord style to me

Just had mine done and this is pretty much accurate.

Few hundred more on parts, and then more for plastering as well.

About £3k all in, but got to do the floor still and paint the walls.

This is the other side of Manchester BTW


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 9:04 pm
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10 years ago, so prices will be a bit out…

En-suite bathroom
Basin and toilet. £300
Walk-in shower £900
Shower head £200
Thermostatic mixer £230
Tiles £500
Paint £50
Flooring £400
Underfloor heating £150
Radiator £120
Lighting £60
Labour £3,000
Sundries £100
Sub-total £6,010

I stripped out the old bathroom and capped off the plumbing so the fitter just came in and fitted the stuff I’d bought.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 9:06 pm
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Blazin – assume you not Cheshire based?

no, Leicestershire.


 
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Ohhh Can see me stubbing my toe on that step up

I stubbed my toe just looking at it. Looks good but would look terrible after I took a hammer to it in revenge 😆


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 9:20 pm
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quote from earlier in the year, for 2m x 2m complete replacement of units, full tile etc.

Toilet, sink, shower cubicle, towel rail etc.

£4,000 labour

£7,250 for the parts, albeit nice ones.

North Yorkshire.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 9:55 pm
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would it need builder/plumber/tiler/spark all coming in at different times?

You'd probably need a separate electrician to ensure it's done to the regs, especially in a bathroom but one good tradesman should be able to do all the rest. Might need a lift if there's a heavy shower base. Heck, I did our bathroom to a decent standard* and I'm not exactly a good tradesman!

*actually I've never been very satisfied with the tiles, but the boss doesn't notice the basic mistake I made, so no biggie.


 
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Just done a similar sized bathroom, Edinburgh, mid range stuff. Just over £7k, that was among the cheapest of our quotes, some over double that


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 10:34 pm
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I'm feeling better about our price. 1.8*1.9M full replacement of fittings, tiling, flooring, lighting. £3500 for parts and £1400 for labour.

The guy doing it did our kitchen last year so we know he does decent work.


 
Posted : 07/08/2023 10:36 pm
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In the sweepstake I am gong for £9800


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 7:03 am
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£11,750.


 
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Just finishing our en-suite. All DIY so no labour. Total cost of materials was around £3500. This did include a glass pocket door, new window and a complete rebuild of the floor and cubicle/room though. Fittings were the cheapest I could find, not a s****y wall hung bog in sight - cos they suck big time! The shower was not replaced.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 7:28 am
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Mine was just under £12k approx. 4 years ago, as has been said though a lot depends on the fittings you buy (and the tiles - it turns out tiles can be eye-wateringly expensive).

Would you expect a job like this to be a one man effort or would it need builder/plumber/tiler/spark all coming in at different times?

I used a plumber who specialised in bathrooms & kitchens (had previously used him to replace a boiler and was happy with the work). Took 2.5 weeks and he mostly just PM'd it (occasional visits to check progress) but he had 2 full time plumbers/fitters + an apprentice working on it and sub-contracted out the tiling, carpentry (boxing in pipes and a couple of other bits), electrics (in-line extractor & down lights), painting and sealing/caulking. Some of those bits he said he could do/used to do himself but getting specialists in he regularly works with ends up with a better job (and they do it faster), probably true but no doubt increases costs.

It still wasn't perfect, floor tiles started moving soon after, shower was plumbed the wrong way around (fortunately I noticed before they'd tiled & sealed around the side of bath) and the wall-hung toilet moves slightly (enough to crack a tile below it - although to be fair this is more to do with my shoddy cheap house only having 3 sheets of plaster board bonded together for most of the internal walls - rather than stud walls the toilet/cistern frame was designed for).


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 7:43 am
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To add to my earlier post, the way I kept costs down was...

- Do as much prep as possible ourselves (removing old tiles, stripping walls)
- Shop around for parts (e.g. taps were cheaper from Screwfix)
- Get big tiles (cheaper to fit) on offer from a tile specialist (not B&Q)
- Consider decorating yourself once it's fitted, or get a painter in


 
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To further Cha****ng's suggestion ^^^^, also look for ex-display stuff at Bathroom Showrooms (and on Ebay). We got a lovely Villeroy and Boch unit for next to nothing as it was ex-display and had a huge mark on one side, but it was the side that butts up to a wall with our bathroom layout so it didn't matter one bit to us.


 
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Cheshire? I'm going for 12K.


 
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...does the winner get the ceremonial first dump in the new lav!?


 
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Consider decorating yourself once it’s fitted, or get a painter in

If I were you I'd seriously consider fully tiling the en-suite as, being quite small, will soon fill with steam and even the best paints don't like too much damp.


 
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If I were you I’d seriously consider fully tiling the en-suite as, being quite small, will soon fill with steam and even the best paints don’t like too much damp.

Fair comment if there's no window.

I still wouldn't tile the ceiling though 😉


 
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I still wouldn’t tile the ceiling though

Hah no - we didn't do that, but it does need repainting again (I use Johnstone's professional stuff but I still find it only lasts about five years, but my wife is semi-amphibian).

Ohh, and OP - you need to get a Manrose inline extractor fan.


 
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also look for ex-display stuff at Bathroom Showrooms

Yes this is a good shout, I spent a while looking at different options from online suppliers but the plumber suggested I meet him at a local independent showroom so I could look at stuff and discuss options. Worked out well in the end as I managed to get bath, screen & sink/pedestal unit cheap as ex-display.


 
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We're getting quotes to convert a downstairs loo and sink changing into a loo, sink and shower. It's only 80cm wide, lots of pipes, including the gas inlet. It will be a squeeze. Company came last week - not had a quote yet but expecting £5k. If that much, I'll just replace the small sink with a new larger one and a 'waterfall' tap.

I did our bathroom, kept the fittings, but rotated the bath, new shower, completely new tiles and probably ran to £2k in tiles and other 'bits'.


 
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Thanks all

Firstly, no the sweepstake winner will not be dumping in my toilet, ceremonial or otherwise...

Quote was £10k, which having read all of these posts, seems less outrageous than I thought, still 2-3k over the mark though IMO.

We will be tiling all round and using mid-range parts, I'll keep an eye on ex-display.  I'm not convinced of the DIY prep bit, false economy perhaps. Should take more than a day to rip the existing stuff out surely?  Could take me a week with just a couple of hours per evening available.

Oh, and three weeks to complete the job!


 
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Could take me a week with just a couple of hours per evening available.

I would say well inside a day, even quicker with the right tools. A rotary hammer drill with a chisel bit if the tiles are a bit stubborn, for example, and a decent pry bar/hammer combo.


 
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I would say well inside a day, even quicker with the right tools. A rotary hammer drill with a chisel bit if the tiles are a bit stubborn, for example, and a decent pry bar/hammer combo.

Yeah I think it took me a weekend (including tip-runs) and that was just with a cold-chisel and lump hammer to lift off the tiles – a surprisingly satisfying job.


 
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My assumption was that chipping the tiles off in that fashion will inevitably take half the plasterboard with it?  Is'nt it easier and quicker just to rip the plasterboard off with the tiles still on it?  Even if tiles come off relatively cleanly, surelay there's some wall prep to do before applying new tiles?


 
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We were quoted £6.5k a few years okay for similar.

We couldn't afford it so instead we thought about alternatives.  Ending up putting on a two bedroom extension, doubling the size of our house, replacing heating, windows, three bathrooms, flooring, most electrics and new landscaping all around.

Still not quite sure how that happened, but we did replace the original bathroom.


 
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a surprisingly satisfying job.

Very satisfying, and incredibly dusty 😀

Even if tiles come off relatively cleanly, surelay there’s some wall prep to do before applying new tiles?

We went back to brick and then got the room dab and dot plasterboarded and skimmed.


 
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My assumption was that chipping the tiles off in that fashion will inevitably take half the plasterboard with it? Is’nt it easier and quicker just to rip the plasterboard off with the tiles still on it? Even if tiles come off relatively cleanly, surelay there’s some wall prep to do before applying new tiles?

In my case, the tiled walls were external. Any subsequent refit may be a different proposition as I have now tiled the stud walls too.


 
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We were quoted £6.5k a few years okay for similar.

We couldn’t afford it so instead we thought about alternatives. Ending up putting on a two bedroom extension, doubling the size of our house, replacing heating, windows, three bathrooms, flooring, most electrics and new landscaping all around.

Fair play, you did well to get all that done for less than £6K


 
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I’m not convinced of the DIY prep bit, false economy perhaps. Should take more than a day to rip the existing stuff out surely?  Could take me a week with just a couple of hours per evening available

My rate is £250 to strip out and £12/m2 for tile removal (including all the adhesive if you’re doing it yourself!).  Generally done in a day for average size bathroom.

sometimes you get lucky and walls remain intact, sometimes, not so much, making good bit included in above prices.  Sometime a good slam of the door and pick the tiles off the floor is all that’s needed, sometimes it’s a ball aching process, some you win, some you loose, but there’s always some making good for retile, here’s todays surprise…


 
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Cheers old plumber/builder/DIY’er!


 
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How soon do you want it?

I’ve just finished an interim contract at a bathroom company supplying to the retailers. They are seeing a drop in demand- showrooms quoting its due to cost of living &  getting hold of trades to do the work.

They have pushed loads of incentives to retailers to shift stock but it’s not happening, so discounts were increasing (not sure how much was getting to the customer tho).

They foresee the usual drop in sales in Dec being worse than usual so you could get a deal if you wait.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 12:56 pm
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FB-ATB - was looking at end September

Blazin, thanks for the info re stripping out. So that's around £450 that you would charge to strip a room like mine, with all walls currently tiled.  Maybe I should get busy!  I know that there will be no nasty surprises behind the tiles as the guy that did it 13/14 years ago was a stickler for doing stuff properly (also the reason I'm expecting the tiles to be holding on to the plasterboard for grim death, rather than chipping off easily!).


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 1:41 pm
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My assumption was that chipping the tiles off in that fashion will inevitably take half the plasterboard with it?  Is’nt it easier and quicker just to rip the plasterboard off with the tiles still on it?  Even if tiles come off relatively cleanly, surelay there’s some wall prep to do before applying new tiles?

When we had our en suite done, the rip out took about 2 hours including the temporary capping of pipes. They took the tiles off with the plasterboard in 3 x4 ft pieces.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 1:46 pm
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Ripping out an old bathroom isn’t too bad. I did it for our en-suite a few years back - although that had very small tiles on all walls - so took a while. When I do our current main bathroom it has much bigger tiles so hoping they’ll come out a bit quicker / without smashing into so many tiny pieces. Will try a cold chisel and lump hammer first but have an sds drill with a chisel bit if I need to bring the violence.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 1:59 pm
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I have to say that ripping out old tiles wantonly is much more satisfying than carefully trying to cut out and lift several loose tiles without breaking them (or any of the surrounding tiles or underfloor heating) like I just had to do. It recently took me three bloody days to cut and lift five tiles, carefully hack away old adhesive, re-lay, grout and silicon seal the edges.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 2:19 pm
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I'm expecting the porcelain floor tiles on ply to be the most annoying part of my upcoming bathroom stripping-out.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 2:57 pm
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I think we paid ~£4k per bathroom, one was a complete bathroom refit, the other was a new ensuite (so simpler, but all new).

Wren and another retail park bathroom shop quoted silly amounts.

Don't get a plumber to do it, if doing it again I'd get the individual trades in directly otherwise you end up with a plumber bodging the carpentry, the tiler tiling everything as-is without thinking which bits are/aren't visible, or if flat surfaces need to slope etc. Having said that, maybe that's where Wren would have earnt their extra ££££.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 4:45 pm
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Getting the ply up will probably be worse than the tiles off the ply, the screw heads get filled with adhesive and can be a real bear sometimes.  Worst by far is trying to get mosaic off anything remotely porous, like the proverbial on a blanket.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 4:51 pm
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Don’t get a plumber to do it, if doing it again I’d get the individual trades in directly otherwise you end up with a plumber bodging the carpentry, the tiler tiling everything as-is without thinking which bits are/aren’t visible, or if flat surfaces need to slope etc. Having said that, maybe that’s where Wren would have earnt their extra ££££.

nah, Wren just sub the lot out and add on 25% for the privilege.

Good bathroom fitters can be multi-trade and do everything well, or have other trade contacts for the bits they can’t/won’t do.  I’m a Tiler 1st trade and can assure you I consider which bits are and aren’t visible, and know how to set a fall, but more importantly, I also can set the bathroom products and tiles out at the same time to make everything look spot on as opposed to the plumber lashing his bits in then the Tiler having to ‘get round’ what they’ve left, I can also build the stud walls and niches to take in account of the tile set out rather than leave silly tile cuts everywhere.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 5:04 pm
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Seriously, I’d be looking at £1500 for me, £1500 for parts.

By me that's all I'd be looking to pay. You could obviously pay 10X but for me it's somewhere to get clean. I'd rather spend my money on bikes and holidays.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 5:53 pm
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Good bathroom fitters can be multi-trade and do everything well, or have other trade contacts for the bits they can’t/won’t do.

Yeah, i'd second this, we had a tiler/general contractor/plumber do both here. Including the stripping out. He wanted to do that (and didn't charge much for it) as he can then see what was there before and what needed doing.

He got a mate in to connect up the electrics (legal requirement).

They cost about 10k each (well, 100-110k swedish) but are both tanked, underfloor heating and mid-range hansgrohe fittings. (That we managed to get through a friend at a nice, but not earth shattering discount.)

Downstairs the original tanking had failed so needed a bit of remedial work on the walls and a month to dry out properly. Upstairs needed some new floor boards and some work doing on a couple of the walls before the tank/tiles went up.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 6:04 pm
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our ensuite is approx 2m x 2m.  it was fully tiled I'm 600x300 tiles.  for a full strip, including removing 3 (yes 3) ceilings it took just over an afternoon.  I wad lucky though I could just chuck the tiles out of the window onto the side garden which meant not carting waste through the house.

like I said if the walls are a bad state use tile backer board it is far superior to plasterboard if you are retiling.

honestly it's a really easy job.


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 6:23 pm
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Did my sons bathroom last year, complete strip new floor,  tiles shower, sink bath loo, some plastering and a lot of waste plumbing... took me 20 days, i am not as fast as good trades but not far behind.

That would be 4 to 5k in labour alone, not sure what they spent on suite tiles etc but it would be around 3k i guess. So it would be a 8k job (Leeds)


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 8:40 pm
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I have a friend in Vancouver who has just had two (I think) bathrooms completely re-done. I don't know how much he paid but when he was getting quotes, one company quoted over $100,000*!

Apparently, unknown to him, the company specialize in top end stuff and said $100,000 isn't that uncommon in Vancouver where so many properties are $2 million plus. His take was that company was simply applying a percentage of the property value** and setting expectations accordingly

*Admittedly, that's Canadian dollars so not to be confused with US dollars

** Property assessed value for taxation purposes is public record so its easy to find out a good ball-park figure...


 
Posted : 08/08/2023 9:05 pm
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I’m in the process of doing my main bathroom myself. A little more involved, as I had to take the (solid brick) external walls back to brick and insulate, replace the subfloor, plaster-board the old airing cupboard after having the tank relocated, and sort out ninety years of plumbing and electrical bodges under the floor.

Cost in materials for good quality but simple stuff (including around £800 for the walls and floor structural materials) is currently running at £4500.


 
Posted : 09/08/2023 7:38 am
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Main bathroom, 2.5 x 2.5m. Completely gutted. Two external walls stripped to brick, replaced with 50mm celotex + plasterboard. Four walls stripped and tiled 600x300mm. Floor lifted, marine plywood and 600x600mm tiles. Corner bath, quadrant shower cubicle and tray, rainfall shower. Toilet. Mirrored vanity unit above sink balanced on a unit. all new lights and extractor fan. All materials cost £4600. A mix of B&Q, plumbase etc, decent quality. Did it all myself. I would estimate 2 guys for 2 weeks if I subbed it out. Was quoted between £8-12k. None of the quotes included the celotex insulation, two of the three wanted to tile over tile.


 
Posted : 09/08/2023 3:36 pm
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