[Closed] Bathroom re-fit quotes

If you want to do bits and pieces of the job yourself you could be getting charged PITA tax. Maybe ask for quotes for the whole job>

As tomd says, they are probably charging more (or giving you the "go away" price) because you want to do some work and supply parts. That is much more a pain for them and eats into profits. Do you actually need a bathroom fitter? Do the plumbing bits yourself (assuming roughly like for like), then get a tiler for the floor and tiles and an electrician for the lights

Yeah, alarm bells ringing when someone starts saying they want to save this, do that themselves, etc. Kind of makes you think job might be a hassle.

Also, size of bathroom isn't really a major factor as in, a smaller bathroom won't necessarily be much cheaper. Same fitting required, same equipment needed on site etc.

Yeah get a quote for the whole job.

Yeah I thought about that so the Mrs has put up one of those RatedPeople adverts for the full job to see what offers she gets and they have been around the same range. I just picked up some numbers and rung around.

Doing it ourselves seems a good idea and might save us some cash, her dad built their house extension and has done a few bathroom and kitchen refits but after this paragliding accident he cant physically help.

Thanks chaps.

Currently doing this for our downstairs cloakroom.
It amazed me how much it's costing.

We're having the whole thing done & the two quotes we've had were originally £5390 & £4068.
This is just for a cloakroom, so no bath or shower.

We're having the whole lot done though
- walls skimmed
- LED downlight
- Half-height wall tiles with a mosaic inlay one down from the top tile
- floor tiles
- new towel rad
- new vanity unit, sink & taps
- new bog/cistern etc. that they are having to box out from the wall slightly
- re-routing pipes (including chasing in) & boxing in waste pipe

The higher quote included a ridiculous allowance for tiles & flooring, which we have sourced ourselves. Same with the radiator - the radiator they specced was £200 with £70 valves.
We've managed to get that quote down to £4300 but will have spent £350 on our own bits, so total cost will be £4650.

The cheaper quote - bloke was a bit ambiguous, messed us around with the pricing & I've since seen him on Facebook ranting about Brexit which put me off him, to be honest 🙂

I would do it myself, but I really don't have the time. I could do it, but would end up not spending time at the weekends with my family. We've saved hard for it, so would prefer to just have someone come in & do it though. Still seems mega-expensive but seems to be the going rate...

Remember also that you might spend an evening trawling the internet for the shower or whatever you want at the best price, but for the tradesperson, this takes otherwise unpaid time and also often involves time for collection etc, hence why prices quoted for items will often be, and generally need to be, more expensive than you can find yourself.

OP - that sounds about right really - having been there with two bathrooms (a small en-suite and a larger family bathroom) it isn't a cheap job. On both occasions I did the full strip-out and sourced the fittings, tiles, flooring etc as well as employ my own preferred electrician and the en-suite was around £5k, the main bathroom (which is over twice the size), £8k

You lost me at the point you "reached out" to some bathroom fitters..........

i'm amazed you got three responses. how many reacharounds did you give?

..,we just need things refitting and so on.

This is a bit vague really.

Do you just want stuff connecting to water and waste and fixing place ?

Or pipe work moving, walls to make good, bathroom fixtures fitted and connected, floorboards to fix, board floor and full tiling job floor and walls?

Similar situation with our ensuite - very hefty bills - but it needed total gutting / working with old cast iron wastes which couldn't easily be adjusted (no access to replace lot.)

Ended up doing the lot myself - including new ceiling with proper insulation and raising the floor height and new floor. I think all in, I'm probably down close to £3k - but I now have all the tools and a bunch of useful new skills. Tiling itself is really quite easy - the hardest bit I found was trying to work out the ideal layout for minimal cuts. When I've been round other places / pubs etc... I always have a look at the tiling job, most of the time I'd say I did a better job

If you have the time do it yourself - it took me about 3 weeks total, but, here is the thing, spread over about 8 months to finally finish, working full time, 2 small kids meaning no evening work - it was in use before it was finished though

Can't say I overly enjoyed doing it, but I like looking at the finished job and the extra £3k+ in my pocket

If I had a tradeguy in there was several ballaches that would have been their issue - for instance having to order and wait in for the same toilet 3 times after the first 2 turned up damaged

If I had the money I'd get someone else to do it....

i’m amazed you got three responses. how many reacharounds did you give?

jam bo, you owe me a keyboard, mine now has tea all over it.

I have just done 2 bathrooms at c 5k each. Same 2 guys, I bought all materials and did all the running around. It took them say 8 man days and me about 4 man days, total refurb, stripped everything out, new windows, appliances, tiles to c 2m height and new tiled floor.

Costs can quickly rise by upgrading appliances, glass fixed shower screen for eg I had made for 200 but you could easily spend 1k on better glass and moving parts.

Worth every penny though, I enjoyed the project.

I did our main bathroom myself. It took an AGE! I'm really happy with the results and as mentioned by DT78 constantly find myself looking at tiling jobs when taking a pee and comparing it to my own work.. If you're going to do the whole lot yourself just go in with your eyes open - I had to watch a shitload of Youtube vids, read up on technique, buy tools, re-buy tools, trips to the shop x lots, etc. etc. I learned some valuable skills but would probably never do it again - tiling is okay but as a DIY'er you can either do it well or fast.. not both.. I was EXTREMELY slow but got a lovely finish in the end with only a couple of minor errors that only I really see..

If you're doing the rip out, make sure you get a good SDS chisel drill.. I went back to masonry on all 4 walls and can confirm that drywall adhesive is like bell metal. I did it the old fashioned way with a chisel and hammer.. never again.

If you decide to tile just remember that 1st tile on a wall decides the fate of every bit of tiling on that surface! As above the amount of time in pub/restaurant bathrooms I see a tiny little slither of tiles at one end is unbelievable.. just because someone didn't place that 1st tile to avoid it. Blazzin Saddles off here give me some excellent advice re. tiling when we did our bathroom.

Did our guest bathroom at the start of this year. Very small at 1500 x 1500mm. Total cost was in the region of £1200, including all materials and digger hire for drains, new bathroom suite, shower, glass shower screen and tiles. Ended up digging up the back garden to fit new drains, coring new holes for toilet & shower waste, smashing up floor to put in underfloor heating, built stud wall to hide shower pipes, 1200 x 700 shower, new toilet & sink, tiled everything using the cheapest tiles B&Q had on offer. Thoroughly enjoyed it and I learned loads, so go for it if you fancy a challenge. All I can say is don't underestimate the amount of time it takes. If I'd been paying labour on top of the materials it would have easily brought the total to £3-3.5k.

We paid £5k + tiles for our bathroom refit.

Was good value for me not to have to spend all my spare time for weeks doing it myself, and not having to pay for DIY waste disposal at the tip etc etc.

This thread is making me a little nervous, our ensuite has a bath that we want to take out and turn into a large walk in type shower, the power shower is already plumbed in, and although the bath surround is already fully tiled, we'd probably want that end of the bathroom re-tiling, a fixed screen/partition putting in and an extra extractor to pull moisture directly away (possibly update the spotlights in there too), I'd initially thought it could be done for ~£1500 (assuming I took out the bath and removed all the tiling) the boss reckoned it would cost more...

I'm starting to think she might have been right.

Same feeling cookeaa. We thought a budget of around 2k would have been enough for the job as its a small room but obviously we haven't thought enough about it.

If you are diying it I would get some second opinions from knowledgeable people. A plumber designed mine and moved appliances around, e.g., toilet has more space around it - just look at how u sit on the wc, also, the basin was moved so u have more space, again, look at your arms when you are using a basin.

Also, things will go wrong so budget accordingly. I booked a plumber, window was made back to front so it delayed me a week. Plumbers time slot was lost....check everything, and check again.

The pro all in quotes may look expensive but there is loads of faffing about you don't see.

4650 for a downstairs bog. 😳

I just spent ages writing a detailed mat breakdown and this forum reloaded itself and lost it.

In short you will be lucky to get it for 1500 that would be cheapest

You lost me at the point you “reached out” to some bathroom fitters……….

Yep, that’s a 20% price uplift right there 😂

Don't let your trade or plumber go out and choose you a bath. Spec the fixtures and fittings yourself.
Been on too many jobs where the plumber or GC has chosen the 'screwfix special' bath etc and they're absolute garbage and double the money would've got something 10x the quality .

I'd spend the money where it matters ...hang on, in my book that's on everything :/

4650 for a downstairs bog. 😳

Cloakroom Wrightyson, Cloakroom 😗

We did some steel frames for an “artisan” builder a few years ago who was building an orangery for a customer. Looking at the design, I asked him what the difference was between an orangery and a conservatory.
He looked at me an smiled and then said “ in this case about thirty grand “ 😂

wrightyson Member

4650 for a downstairs bog.

Crazy, innit?!
We have pretty much ended up going with the only company that have engaged with us, provided us with a detailed quote & listened to exactly what we want.
In my opinion it is ridiculously expensive, but there is no way I have the time to do it myself - it would take me forever & a day & I'd have to learn a load of new skills along the way.
And we have been unable to get any other suitable quotes.

The first person I tried to get round said he would come round & then didn't. He then wouldn't answer the phone.

The second person is the quote we are going with.

The third person came round, didn't make any notes at all and then I had to chase for a quote. He e-mailed just a price with no breakdown & included two values (and no, one wasn't 20% more than the other, so it wasn't VAT). I queried it & he said it was a mistake & it was actually the higher value & that was the total price including VAT. It was cheaper than quote two & once I'd confirmed that included everything we wanted, we accepted the quote. Then when I chased up for a formal quote with breakdown of costs, he said he'd made a mistake & it didn't include VAT! So the price went up 20%.

The fourth bloke kept saying he'd get back to us & never did.

We ended up in a situation where we didn't really want to spend as much as we are going to, but equally couldn't keep putting it off forever & in lieu of more quotes.
And while I am happy to do DIY jobs around the house & have done most things so far that have needed doing, this was a job I didn't want to tackle.

revs1972 Member

Cloakroom Wrightyson, Cloakroom

If that's a piss-take at me, I kept calling it a downstairs loo & it was tradesmen who kept asking me if I meant a cloakroom....so eventually, I gave up calling it a downstairs loo & started using their terminology...

Wow that seems very expensive.

Just starting a bathroom refurb tomorrow. Found a well reviewed local plumber who now only dos full bathroom remodels.

He helps me with layout/ design ideas but ultimately left it to me buy the items.

We are moving radiators, new and repositioned sink, wc back to wall. Style, bath replaced with large walk in shower, which is fitted away from where the bath was, so new drainage. Tiling, wells and floor, new dropped ceiling spotlights, illuminated mirror. Strip out old kit, tiles and horrible wooden wall panelling.

He’s supplying all plumbing parts, spots, electricals bits and bobs, grout, adhesive.

Quoted £1900 estimated 2.5 weeks. Bathroom is not vast at 2.6m by 2.2m

Shower unit, 8mm glass sliding quadrant 1400/900 and decent tray, toilet, cabinet sink all decent spec and moda brand, illuminated mirror, chrome rads. £1300
Tiling £600
Ceiling pannelling £80

So around £3850 all in.

These are northern rates however.

That is cheap, his day rate excluding mats is just over £100?

I budget 250 a day down south. Well that’s what I mentally pay myself!

If he is doing the electrics he needs to have the right cert

I’ve reached out

Arghhhhh! Are you a recruitment consultant perchance?

No Glen. Far from it.

That's seems reasonable kirky.

We've narrowed down the work that needs doing.

Nothing is being moved. Literally no space to move anything anyway. The layout doesn't allow it. Every bathroom has the exact same layout on our side of the street. Zoopla stalking Pro.

-new basin
-new bath,little lad has chipped it playing with toys...
-new mixer shower with glass screen
-floor tiled
-re-skim before tiling if needed
-2 walls tiled, approx 3-4 m/sq
-possible ceiling drop for some LED lights.

How far north are you kirky?

Also just noticed your bathroom sounds exactly like ours but yours is a a bit bigger and we have no rad , what on earth is with the wooden panelling!

There is a lot of trades in bathrooms, plumbers, tilers, electricians, carpenters

Cost of fittings vary immensely from 200 to £2000 plus for a shower for example.

Are you having small or large tiles, is it natural stone so needs to be sealed etc.

Time is money if you wife wants herringbone tiles and sanitaryware from people who supply to the queen then you better get the overtime in.

Good thing I’m doing a lot of it myself....nearly there and I’m not in the slightest bit bitter

Don’t let your trade or plumber go out and choose you a bath. Spec the fixtures and fittings yourself.

I took a hybrid approach, plumber suggested going with him to the local trade supply place (which also had a good showroom). Ended up getting mostly ex-display (but mint) stuff which saved me over £500, plus the plumber had an account there and they were happy to store the stuff until it was required. Was really useful when looking at various options to have both the sales guy's opinion and the plumber's - other than going by price I didn't really have a clue when looking at stuff online what was decent quality and what wasn't.

Getting it all delivered at once when the plumber was ready for it worked well to, he said quite a few jobs got held up when clients ordered their own stuff and some bits turned up late or needed to be returned etc.

Also get someone to take overall ownership of it (the plumber in my case) as there's lots of trades involved (sparky, plumber, tiler, painter & carpenter in my case) and I was glad the plumber coordinated it all with people he knew and worked with rather than me have to sort that out, even if it might have cost £500+ more for the privilege it was well worth it.

Should hopefully be finishing changing my toilet cistern and swapping a laminate worktop for slate tiles in mine today.

Taken a lot of work!

I had a bathroom refit last year.

Has a corner shower cubicle and bath too.

I supplied the shower and flooring.

I came out at about £5.5K

Edited to add I supplied the electric shower, not the tray and cubicle.

We had our ens0uite done a couple of years ago, we just got the chap to rip everything out and replace with new. Cost about 3.5k for something that's 1800 * 2500 or so. Bit more info on this:

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/bathroomtrackworld-shower-panels/

plumber suggested going with him to the local trade supply place

Definitely agree with using a local trade counter - we did that for most of our stuff (a couple of bits we sourced elsewhere - like a complete bargain Villeroy & Boch vanity unit off Ebay - brand new, £80!!!) but the advice we got from the counter was great and they recommended some things we didn't even know existed (such as an ultra slimline shower tray so we have got a step-free floor to shower without the huge cost of wet room flooring.

stumpy01

Currently doing this for our downstairs cloakroom.
It amazed me how much it’s costing.
We’re having the whole thing done & the two quotes we’ve had were originally £5390 & £4068.

We had the following done in our cloakroom earlier this year and it cost £1900 all in:
– LED downlight
– Half-height wall tiles
– new towel rad
– new vanity unit, sink & taps
– new bog/cistern etc. that they are having to box out from the wall slightly
– re-routing pipes (including chasing in) & boxing in waste pipe

Based on the rate we paid, i'd only expect to add £750 (maybe £1k if the tiles were really expensive?) to that for the additional items yours included:
- mosaic inlay
– floor tiles
– walls skimmed

We did have one quote @ about £5k though 😆

You can save some money by ripping out the old bathroom yourself

I went the DIY route on my 12'x8' bathroom. Removed everything, fully tiled walls and floor, my nephew relocated tap and bath plumbing for beer. New bath and corner shower, reused toilet and sink.

The layout made it easier, as I could leave the old shower in situ, while doing the other 2/3 of it

Total came to about £1100

Two (actually 3) ends of the scale:

£800 to fit a new toilet and sink in the downstairs WC and hide the piping in the cupboard next door and rebuild the boxed in bits. We did all the tiling and decorating.

£14k (can't remember the split but was about 50/50 due to the higher spec + bath in the bathroom offsetting the extra work in the ensuite) to supply and fit a whole new bathroom suite in the main bathroom, knock down the partition between the two big bedrooms and install a new ensuite with shower, macerator and shower pump. Only extra was the tiles (they tiled, we just supplied them).

Based on that it's probably not massively unreasonable? Especially as there's inevitably a day or more for an electrician, a plasterer, a tiller, someone to do the silicone sealing, on top of the plumbing and general fitting of stuff and painting afterwards.

Anyone that 'reaches out' to a bathroom fitter is gonna get rodgered... 🙃

why do you care so much about the language I use? I guess for every juvenile post there are at least 5 good ones giving advice.

For someone who is quite dyslexic I always take a long time to post on these forums due to the fact that there are always people who are toxic. Yes its helpful as hell but that crappy part of the internet that mock people who don't use the right words in the correct manner is ever present here too.

as others have said, that cost might seem high but its hard to get stuff done properly for a lot cheaper. good to try a few different people as suggested and definitely a local recommendation if any known.

I found that the people that did my work were OK with me buying the 'nice bits' e.g. basin, taps, bath, chrome fittings etc because you know what you're getting and cant say 'thats horrible' when they pick something up they thought you'd like.
They just supply and fit all the concealed/'boring' bits like wastes/ supply pipes etc. Good to make them aware of what you're getting so they know what will or wont be needed to produce a complete job, e.g. brackets etc.
best not to go super internet-cheap on taps that come from china and don't even thread properly.
Once I asked to order and pay for my bits from the plumbers merchant that the contractor was supplied by so I got advantage of trade discount.
Demo and strip out yourself might save 400-500 quid off the main job? maybe final redecoration yourself could save a bit too?

I'm in the middle of a DIY bedroom to bathroom conversion project after getting lots of expensive quotes.

It's good in that it doesn't matter how long it takes as we can still use the old disgusting bathroom in the meantime. Thats good because it's taking aaagggess, though i am kind of enjoying it.

Quite tricky trying to find time around kids/work etc. though. I literally work opposite a screwfix which has proved very handy for all the trips.

Need to build a bath frame and tile and then it's basically finished. All plumbing, lights, extractor fan, vinyl flooring etc are done. As it's DIY I took extra time to replace the annoying creaky floorboards and fit thicker plywood than recommended to get a really solid floor.

I found plumberparts on youtube to be pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/user/plumberparts

Demo and strip out yourself might save 400-500 quid off the main job? maybe final redecoration yourself could save a bit too?

Not far off, I do this for a living and charge £375+ Vat to rip out and dispose in a skip I provide, +£10/m2 for tile removal. However, if I was discounting my price to let others to the rip out, you'd better be doing it properly and stripping off all the tile adhesive and anything that would stop me getting straight on with the fit. No way would I let someone 1st fix for me though or prep for tiling, it's always wrong when others have done it.

Just done / doing our ensuite. Small - 760 x about 2.5m. Cost £2K in parts and labour for a ripping out the old units + tiles, then supply and fitting a new high spec shower, and labour for putting in new toilet, sink and vanity unit. Shower included pump etc all up in the loft with associated electrics. It's cost us an additional 1.5K for the toilet, vanity unit, sink, tiles, flooring, shower tray, glass door etc etc. I'm going the tiling, fitting the shower door (f*cking thing - that's not something I want to have to do again), flooring etc.

We had two quotes for the whole thing last year - one at £5.5K, the other at £6.2K.

If we'd gone for cheaper tiles, fittings etc then we could probably have done it all for under £2K.

I also did my own for about a grand versus, a complete guess, 4K pro job.
I chose to do it myself but would not complain about a 4-5k quote. Do not under estimate the time required in planning (technical, not just ‘ooh that colour’), obtaining materials, and labour in fitting them. Took me ages!

Just read the posts again and surprised no one has said get the appliances suspended off the floor. The wc is expensive to do, but basins and cabinets suspended make cleaning far easier. I have tiled floors so just throw a load of water down, let it settle then mop it up.

Much cleaner lines too. Also put in the biggest bath that will fit, think mine's 800mm.

I am very tempted to do it myself, learn the skills and get to buy all the new tools I'd need for the job but we don't have another bathroom to use, I'd hate to put the family in that position where I've screwed something up and we don't have a working bathroom.

Plus looking at the pipes under the bath, I have no idea what the last plumber did but they appear to be intertwined, not a neat job at all, all the bolts holding the basin/wc/bath are rusted to hell which would mean a difficult removal.

I think looking retrospectively, the quotes aren't too bad at all.

To give some context, we had a quote last night for a new bathroom.
Room is roughly 2m square
Old stuff removed, put in a skip and taken away
Fully tiled
New bath, sink, units and toilet
Electric shower
Karndean Flooring
Spotlights in the ceiling
New radiator/towel rail
All labour and trades
£5500

This struck me as very reasonable.

Old stuff removed, put in a skip and taken away

One advantage of DIY is you can avoid this. Trades understandably love skips for convenience but loads of useful materials end up in them. When I did our bathroom the basin and taps went on freecycle, the framing timber got re-used, the built-in glass panel cupboard doors are now windows on my shed. Only things to go to landfill were the tiles, toilet (minus metalwork) and lino.

I would have thought you could just ask the tradesman to save certain items if you wanted to recycle them?

Also put in the biggest bath that will fit, think mine’s 800mm.

We did this as we have two young girls that like to have long playtime baths together still (although that will change soon) - I don't have many baths but it is wonderful to be able to stretch right out when I do.

Just read the posts again and surprised no one has said get the appliances suspended off the floor.

We have also done this and wired up LED striplights to go under the suspended huge double vanity unit which creates a really nice effect.

Just read the posts again and surprised no one has said get the appliances suspended off the floor.

Why? I hate this and would never do it.

My redone bathrooms were around £6000 each 50/50 DIY and tradesmen. But they are very high quality jobs - rooms stripped right back to the studding, 4-6 inches of insulation fitted, new plasterboard, shower areas tanked in a belt and braces style, big baths, new radiators, new suites. Thew part that really cost is the tiling - but the quality of the tilework is better than anything else I have seen and so are some of the hidden things - like the bath being supported on a frame all the way round

I did ours a few years back and it took bloody ages, far longer than I thought it would for such a small room. It did save a lot of money though, we had quotes for £6k and I did it for under £1k. In the end I picked up a load of stuff in an end of line sale from a local supplier.

If I did it again, I'd still source my own stuff but have a pro tiler lined up to tile once I had fitted everything. It took me about half a day just to do the setting out as the walls are out of square in all directions. The actual tiling, grouting and silicone took days and felt like a lifetime!

You could still buy the stuff and get a plumber to fit the bath, toilet and sink for you then arrange your own tiler?

I did ours a while ago, small room completely refitted with Duravit ceramics and Roper Rhodes chromework. Cost around 4.5k all in With a local builders merchant home improvement account but I did have the electrics, floor and plastering done by tradesmen. I would definitely go with wall hung ceramics in a small room, opens it up and is so easy to clean but it increases the cost due to the frame needed for the wall hung cistern (Geberit frame).Be careful how you estimate tiles, the rule of thumb sq.m plus a bit can be waaay out depending on tile size and getting even spacing, take your time and even lay it out on paper if necessary. Fit a water softener as well, it makes a massive difference to scale and scum build up, ours is non existent after 4 years. You will find you are the final inspection department for manufacturers as well, had to send quite a few pieces back for replacement including 2 very expensive stainless towel rails.

Trades understandably love skips for convenience

I don’t love skips but they’re a necessity of the job. A LOT of stuff comes out of a room during a bathroom refit, far more than people realise, to remove without a skip involves having a waste transfer licence and chucking peoples old dirty crap in my van, which ain’t happening! I have a few clients who think skips are too expensive, until they have to get rid of it all in the family hatchback. Anything recyclable on my jobs gets recycled.

Fit a water softener as well, it makes a massive difference to scale and scum build up, ours is non existent after 4 years.

What did you fit out of interest? We could do with something like this.

I've been looking at water softners (very hard water). Ones I looked at were super pricey. Plus I have added complication of a lead supply, which will not be replaced until we do the kitchen in a couple of years

I was caught out with having to pay quite a lot of money (nearly £100) at the tip for plasterboard, tiles and wc disposal for one ford focus's worth of stuff. I have a large pile of tiles in the shed and I'll probably get a skip in next time to get rid of it all as I reckon it will work out cheaper!

If you are going to give tiling a crack - start in the corner least visible, as you will get much better as you do the room. I have a big clinker (brill bit of kit), and an erbauer wet tile saw (ok does the job). I haven't found good drill bits yet, I used expensive ones off screwfix and they take a good 15-20mins to drill a single hole in a 10mm tile (I had to drill 7 for the screen, 4 for mirror, 4 for cupboard, 4 for towel rail..) . The circle cutters I used for the pipework last 2 holes.

Also think about how complex a shape you are making when you box, I didn't and it added a lot of time to the tiling job. (I had an alcove, shelf, full height shower boxin, shallow box in for the sink pipe work, and bigger box in for the concealed cistern...all added time to the job

I fitted a Monarch Midi as there are only 2 of us. Looks after itself and just have to top up salt when needed. Monarch have been very good with backup as well. Cost around £450 I think from the local plumbers merchant.

I haven’t found good drill bits yet, I used expensive ones off screwfix and they take a good 15-20mins to drill a single hole in a 10mm tile

Cant remember the brand but probably erbauer or whatever B&Q's own make is, spade ones not the diamond ones. Went through the tiles in no time at all. Maybe some tiles are different to others but I've used them on everything from stone effect, big glossy tiles, small tiles, thin tiles, thick tiles with no issues.

One thing I did that came out really well is I got a big mirror in a multiple of tile sizes and stuck it straight to the wall ( don't forget to add the distance the tiles are apart)

surely when you tile you start in the middle of a wall working out where the tile edges should be so you do not have slivers on one edge -

BS 5385 Part 1: 2018

https://www.bal-adhesives.com/important-changes-to-bs-5385-1-wall-and-floor-tiling/

I haven’t found good drill bits yet, I used expensive ones off screwfix and they take a good 15-20mins to drill a single hole in a 10mm tile

Must have been porcelain tiles?

Normal ceramic tiles with a standard masonry drill bit would take around 5-10 seconds to drill.

Yes I used porcelain tiles and helped the plumber mount the wall hung vanity unit, he took ages messing about so glad I paid him. Also, he moved and hid all the pipework inside a small wall hung basin, again, I watched him fit it, it's tough getting yoir hands in there.

Good idea underlighting wall hung vanity basin...next time will do.

Tbh now the jobs done well you don't really think about the price.

People tend to forget the cost of decent labour. £150 a day person, 2 guys for a week is £750. I’ve fitted 2 bathrooms now and there’s no way I’d do the tiling. Yes it’s easy but when I can get a pro in to do it for £150 a day why would I do it myself. And when I say pro I mean a pro tiler not a pro bathroom fitter - there can be a BIG difference.
Last bathroom I fitted was in this house, the materials alone were £2300 and that includes bath, sink, toilet (all nice stuff not b and q rubbish), Bristan taps and shower, flooring, tiles and filing, paint, radiator (bought 2nd hand), shower curtain, lighting. Add on a couple of weeks to do it (absolute tops) and you have £4800.

I’ve done big jobs in houses including kitchens, flooring, plumbing etc but fitting a bathroom I hate more than any other job.

Going rate for a good multi-trade is north of £200 a day at the moment. I started as a 18yo apprentice tiler, and that's what I did day in and day out for 10 years, add plumbing, electrical and joinery qualifications. My going rate is £225+ VAT a day.

I have done full refurbs on 4 houses including rewires, kitchen etc and tiling is one of the very few jobs I will always get a pro in for and be prepared to pay them properly. A good tile job makes such a differnce and for an amateur to do a halfway decent tile job takes forever and is rarely anywhere near pro standard