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I was looking out of the window this morning and saw them empty our general waste bin (black if interested). I could see there was a bit of a kerfuffle in disengaging our bin from the lifter/tipper. Then it was released and dumped unceremoniously outside our drive SANS LID.
Nobody knocked and said "sorry we've wrecked your bin but I'll fill in a chitty and get a replacement." How do they get away with this? Imagine performing in a similar manner in your job?

Bastids.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:02 pm
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You[tube] know what to do OP


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:08 pm
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Imagine being in a job which is so timing/performance target based so you don’t have enough time to knock on the door


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:09 pm
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Sorry should have said ,a bit NSFW


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:11 pm
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Bin men never give way and always park in the worst way possible.

The other day on my run I saw a bin lorry going my way down a narrow street and then another one heading towards them.

They are probably still there waiting for the other one to get out of the way.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:19 pm
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And the best bit is you’ll have to pay for a replacement...


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:22 pm
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I live on a one-way street and the bin lorry goes the wrong way down it every time. It's just part of their route 😆


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:26 pm
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I put the bin out, to one side of the up + over garage door (so I can close it) leaving plenty room for them to manoeuvre the lorry up the lane

Every week, without fail, they leave it up against said door, so it gets knocked over when I raise the it to retrieve the empty bin.

EVERY, FU*KING. WEEK.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:28 pm
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The recycling bin workers are annoying.

They are supposed to put all the recycling into the wagon. What they do instead is throw most of the recycling over the road and pavements. And why do they have to try and smash every glass bottle? Whats that all about?


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:32 pm
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I can beat you OP.

We had a broken wheelie bin for ages in our communal garden. Watched two council guys turn up a couple of weeks ago early in the morning, bring the wheelie bin out to their lorry, lift a couple of bags out of the top and throw them in the back of the lorry, they then looked around the street to make sure no one was watching, then tipped the bin upside down dumping the remaining unbagged rubbish onto the road. They then threw the broken bin into the back of the lorry, got in and drove off leaving the rubbish in the road.

Reported instantly to the council who did **** all


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:36 pm
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Imagine being in a job which is so timing/performance target based so you don’t have enough time to knock on the door

More like so the old git who's driving the lorry can get home ASAP.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:43 pm
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Bin men never give way and always park in the worst way possible.

A binman stepped off the back platform (without looking) on to the front wheel of my Ducati ,that was interesting.He went up in the air,my mate (pillion)somersaulted over me,landed on the street and caught the binman just before he hit the deck.We should have joined the circus.binman was fine. 🙂


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:53 pm
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A binman stepped off the back platform (without looking) on to the front wheel of my Ducati ,that was interesting.He went up in the air,my mate (pillion)somersaulted over me,landed on the street and caught the binman just before he hit the deck.We should have joined the circus.binman was fine


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 2:57 pm
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Bob,how bloody dare you.
I even left out the bit about my mate landing in dog shit.
Even though my mate caught/stopped his fall ,the guy came down so fast that his head still hit a kerb and knocked him out.Ambulance took him away and I had to give a statement to the polis,I was only 19 and spent the rest of the day thinking I had maybe killed someone while my mate moaned about being scuffed up and smelling of dog shit 🙂


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:14 pm
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Contrary to other posts, my binmen are great, all of them stand and wave to my 2 year old who gets stupidly excited when they're here.

Yes they're rushing around like hell but they're helpful, polite and have taken all sorts of things the neighbours leave out next to the bins.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:19 pm
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Bob,how bloody dare you.

😆


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:24 pm
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and have taken all sorts of things the neighbours leave out next to the bins

Not two expensive bike locks by chance?


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:28 pm
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And why do they have to try and smash every glass bottle? Whats that all about?

Just guessing, but they'd get more bottles in if they're smashed up.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:30 pm
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One of my (soon to be former) work colleagues has just got a job driving the local bin lorry. He says the pickers don't give a toss about noise or putting the bins back in front of the right house as they know it's job-and-finish. All they want to do is get home! They get paid regardless whether they do a good or crap job so just rush around. Of course being a council service no-one thinks to look at how quickly they get round their route and think that if they cut the number of lorries but made the lads (no female staff) work their full hours. If they did that suddenly things would be done slowly and correctly to prove that the work can't be done by fewer lorries.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:41 pm
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dangeourbrain

Not two expensive bike locks by chance?

Didn't see it, but heard they will take locked gates and inappropriate fencing. 🙂


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:44 pm
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On the flip side our binmen are also pretty good, return the bin, handle facing the property. Council replaced all 4 of my bins when I managed to burn them all down, only had to pay about £30.

Bin lorry drivers are also some of the most skilled drivers I've ever seen, amazing how accurate their reversing is, pin point onto a bin to minimise the effort of moving it. The flip side of them blocking the street is how often poor parking stops them getting through on residential streets.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:46 pm
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They have it so cushy. Back in the day they had to go up steep steps and into our garden to collect and then return our bin.

It was rusty and smelly.

I hope the binmen of yore look down on today's pampered darlings.

They couldn't even be bribed to take away my old shelving units. Thought Brexit was going to stop all that nonsense.

Wouldn't want to be emptying all of the food waste bins on a day like today though.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:47 pm
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They don't know what 'rhetorical' means.
And they don't care.


 
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Council replaced all 4 of my bins when I managed to burn them all down, only had to pay about £30.

OK, that doesn't get to pass with no explanation.


 
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Bob,Bruce Lee is still alive 🙂


 
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😆


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 3:57 pm
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Bin men never give way and always park in the worst way possible

The binman and the recycle lorry are regularly blocking the road outside the local primary school at prime time in the morning. If whoever planned their route had an ounce of sense, they would get them up there later in the morning after the rush hour

And why do they have to try and smash every glass bottle? Whats that all about?

surely thats the best bit. Got to see if you can smash the bottles when you take them to the bottle bank 😄


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 4:03 pm
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Council replaced all 4 of my bins when I managed to burn them all down, only had to pay about £30.

OK, that doesn’t get to pass with no explanation.

I too need to know what happened here.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 4:31 pm
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My next door neighbour caught them trying to pick up my motorbike they had just knocked over, they gave false details, luckily he took the reg number!


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 5:03 pm
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Last week on the recycling our truck started eating a bin then decided to spit it out sans lid and it went flying back out of the truck somersaulting over my head as I ducked out of the way. I've only been doing it for the last 5 weeks while furloughed but not only have I been attacked by bins but I've had a bloody bee fly straight into my mouth and sting me right in the soft palette at the back of my throat. I know it was a bee because when we went back to tip our first load I looked in the mirror and could still see the sting in there. Once we finished I ended up having to go in the red zone at A&E while they put forceps down my throat to pull it out. That wasn't too pleasant either!


 
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Posted : 31/07/2020 5:21 pm
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Happened to me earlier on this year, both arms of the hinge on the lid snapped off. I was going to report it but apathy set in and I never quite got around to it.

The next collection day, the loose lid disappeared. I figured, ho hum. if the council wanted to empty a bin filled with 240L of water every month then that's their lookout.

The next collection after that, it'd been repaired.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 5:22 pm
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Refuse collection staff do an excellent job every day in all weathers, the drivers have reversing skills we nmere mortals can only dream of,so they brole the lid accidently on a council provided bin, just ring the council and explain th problem and a nice person will redeliver a brand new or previously owned bin to your house quite quickly.

2 things i should mention where work sometimes are a lot of one way streets, and you get stuck behind a rear loading refuse collection vehicle, and the refuse collectors will have numerous black bags to collect and throw into the lgv, i jump out of van and help them along. They seem quite amazed somebody is helping them


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 9:12 pm
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Dangourbrain emptied the fire pit contents into the bin and went out. It was 12 hours after we'd finished. Normally the ashes would be cold, didnt check the middle and I'd been burning an old hard outdoor table instead of softwood so it burnt hotter and longer after I went bed. Got a call from the neighbours who luckily put it out before the fire brigade got there. I came home to find 3 wheelie bins gone, just a puddle of plastic with tyres and axle sticking out and 2 more melted into very weird shapes. Fire brigade were pretty good, even though it was out they broke into the garage to check it wasn't in the roof, luckily it wasn't but I think it was a close thing. Fire brigade snapped the euro lock cylinder to get in, then replaced the lock with a new one. Needless to say I've just replaced all the house locks with Avocet mk3 locks which cost me near enough £250 but at least they are secure and all use the same key.

I always drench any ashes now before putting them in the bin. Felt slightly better when one of the firemen said his wife had done the same, twice.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 9:28 pm
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Our bin men are so lazy.

I've only ever seen them work one day a week.


 
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I always drench any ashes now before putting them in the bin.

I forgot to mention the burning eyes to go along with bin and bee attacks. Anyone who thinks it's a good idea to put ash in the bin that's not bagged needs to get a face full of it to fully appreciate just how unpleasant it is. And if you could just take one moment to rinse out your bottles and cans it would be nice not to be soaked with stale beer and wine every day. and hers a surprise for you, refuse and recycling collectors would really like it if you could maybe find a bag for that soiled nappy rather than just leave it on the lid of the bin. And maybe when you do go past the truck we have to work from both sides something a little less than driving with your foot flat to the floor would be appreciated.

But for all those that don't think we are worthy of any consideration at all their are those that have left out cold drinks for us and even brought out ice lollies. Not to mention the sparkling wine one woman had left from a bbq so decided to share with us as we recycled those bottles that had been drunk. If you want to see the worst and best in people it's a good place to do it.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 10:34 pm
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Our bin men are great and they always wave and say hello to my son when he runs out of the house at bin lorry time.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 10:56 pm
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Got a lot of respect for people who work on the bin lorries. The folks round our way do a great job and I’m grateful for it.


 
Posted : 31/07/2020 11:06 pm
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I believe bernard wrigley has it nailed

https://bernardwrigley.bandcamp.com/track/the-binman-song


 
Posted : 01/08/2020 12:15 am
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Got a lot of respect for people who work on the bin lorries. The folks round our way do a great job and I’m grateful for it.

Ditto 👍


 
Posted : 01/08/2020 8:00 am
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Got a lot of respect for people who work on the bin lorries. The folks round our way do a great job and I’m grateful for it.

But are you really a binman if you don't ride the truck ?

In the village (me and sparks live in same village) there were two bin lorrys working the main Street with 2 welfare vans ferrying the men around .

I guess social distancing is an issue for them just now.


 
Posted : 01/08/2020 8:04 am
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Here is a tip to all those who'd like their own bin back, put the house number on the lid - that's the only place we can see it when we are putting it back. It's not like you go to one house get one bin then move on. We are often moving a couple of bins at once while dealing with boxes of glass and mountains of cardboard dumped by the bin and all the time the truck is moving. With 3 loaders on our truck you can be swapping boxes and bins around as you load and unload to try and constantly keep moving. As for it being easy now my friend who lodges with me was a binman for 4 years 30 years ago, it was hard work for sure but whereas a typical refuse truck then had 4 loaders it now has 2 and the amount people throw away now is frightening. I've done a couple of refuse rounds and some people have the bigger wheelie bins and they are rammed full and I swear some of them weigh more than me! He now drives for UPS and last week we were following him around on a couple of days as he delivered all the cardboard we'll be collecting next week!

I've been really lucky and spent the last month doing where I live although I always get one of the other crew to do my bin, I don't pay all that bloody council tax to do it myself! I also get the chance to judge my friends and neighbours on their drinking. I've had to speak to a couple of them as they clearly are falling behind in the consumption stakes.😊


 
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Oi !


 
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Another thumbs up for the binnies. Emptying other peoples rubbish whilst trying to avoid being squished by the public - cheap at twice the price, I say.


 
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Mine are also brilliant. I always wave and say thank you and they're always nice in return.


 
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Here is a tip to all those who’d like their own bin back, put the house number on the lid – that’s the only place we can see it when we are putting it back

Thats so obvious but people put numbers on the sides for some daft reason that other neighbours dont nick them.

Also i live in a block of apartments and we have 3 large steel bins, and residents of one block get quite upset if another block uses their bin, and puts waste in it,and they frequently check whats in it.

When passing a row of wheelie bins on the road just drop something in it especially if its not yours and await a huge tirade of abuse and whatever you threw in to be on the floor' #binrage


 
Posted : 01/08/2020 8:16 pm
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people put numbers on the sides for some daft reason that other neighbours dont nick them.people put numbers on the sides for some daft reason that other neighbours dont nick them.

I never bothered until next door but one stole mine.


 
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My binmen do a great job too, lifting smelly rubbish day after day must get old pretty quickly.
As a professional driver, i am also in awe of the reversing skills of the average bin lorry driver.
Not a job I would fancy tbh, so i raise my hat to those who can do it.


 
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And why do they have to try and smash every glass bottle? Whats that all about?

You really expect them to take every bottle out of the bin individually, and place them carefully into the truck? There’s a bin full of empty bottles, it gets picked up, taken to the truck, then upended emptying the contents into the truck, just like the other recyclable waste and general waste. They’re not going to piss around trying to be stealthy when there’s several hundred households to deal with on their shift! #rollseyes

Anyone who thinks it’s a good idea to put ash in the bin that’s not bagged needs to get a face full of it to fully appreciate just how unpleasant it is.

I do believe that ashes of any sort are not to be put into plastic wheely bins for exactly this reason, just in case they’re still hot in places. There’s an explicit notice about no hot ashes on our bins. I just chuck the ashes onto the garden, it’s good fertiliser, provided there’s no plastic or other harmful stuff mixed in.


 
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They're pretty good here tbh.

There's a garbo (yup, that's what they call them!) for the red topped bin, one for the green bin, and one for the green bin with the yellow lid. I even saw a garbo get out the truck and pull someones bin off their drive as they hadn't put it out!

Plus we have verge collections. Once a year there's a hard rubbish collection. We put out all the old junk, bike bits, knackered garden chairs etc on the front verge. A team come round on a certain date with a big truck and a scoop, and take it all away. People chuck away some good stuff sometimes and when each area has a verge collection, you often have people driving round having a nose!

We also have twice yearly green waste collection, so you can trim your bushes (pipe down at the back), removed old tress and chop them up, and they come take that too! All goes to a massive mulcher at the tip, and people can pick up trailer loads for free.

Obvs this is all paid for by our rates. But impressive.


 
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I’d like to see a binman olympics. The blokes who clear the FofD run all around their rounds AND shift heavy loads every 30 seconds. They must be incredibly fit.


 
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No complaints about how they do the job around here but good grief are they grumpy unfriendly sods. Never a response or smile when greeted, thanked etc, entirely ignoring my little ones cheering them from the window... I think the only time one has ever said anything to me was when he snarled at me for standing too close the other week after bringing the bin out just in time (maybe 1.75 meters).


 
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&op

AGREED!

they do get PAID ENOUGH FFS!!


 
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Bin men where I used to live played with my first Staffy on their break, not sure when it started but every Thursday at 10.20 ish the dog would be waiting by the gate and for 15 minutes they would play tug of war with a glove that would get wrecked. This happened most weeks until he sadly died. About 3 weeks after he died there was a knock on the door and it was two of the binmen asking about Caesar, we told them what had happened and this big bloke just started blubbing saying that they loved him and always looked forward to Thursday so they could have a play with the dog. The next week they left a bunch of flowers for us. Good people.


 
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The op seems to have decided to ignore all the great comments about our hard working bin men and women.


 
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my friend who lodges with me was a binman for 4 years 30 years ago, it was hard work for sure but whereas a typical refuse truck then had 4 loaders it now has 2

Would it not have been traditional bins back then? They'd need more labour I'd have thought?

and the amount people throw away now is frightening.

Collection frequency plays a part here too I expect. We have three "garbos" (as they're definitely going to be known as from now on, that's amazing): Grey for general refuse, a brown cardboard one* and blue for cans, plastics and glass. We get the grey bin collected every fortnight and the other two alternate on the off-weeks. So if you miss say a blue bin collection it'll be eight weeks before they'll be back for it. I could fill that one on my own in eight weeks, god knows how a family of five cope.

(* - that is to say, it's for collecting cardboard, it's actually made of plastic.)


 
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I have no issues with our 'garbo' trucks.

I do have a question for those that work on said trucks, do you have any influence or power over what people throw out. I live on a new build estate and as per the law, we have a number of social houses. One in particular always grabs my attention, as during refuse collection their black bin is always overflowing. in the region of 8-10 bin bags every two weeks. whereas when the recycling bin is out, the lid is never bulging and there is no extras placed by the bin.

Its clearly a family that consumes a massive amount and it would appear they throw everything in the refuse bin and very little in recycling. As a person who has a fair bit of care for the environment, this boils my urine.

I have seen that the bin men have left tags on the handles of the recycling bin before, suggesting what they can and cant recycle (although I am guessing this is due to them putting the wrong items in the recycling bin), but is there anything else they can do? IE kick the front door in and educate the folk on less consumption/more recycling?

Or is this outside the realms of a 'garbo' worker and something the council would get involved in..... or i guess i could get over it and just realise that some folk just don't care/aren't educated....?


 
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@v7fmp

I understand the point you raise about overconsumption and ignorance on recycling.

But your inferred correlation between people living in social housing and being uneducated seems a bit off. The fact that they are in social housing has no relevance to the point you make other than highlighting prejudices.


 
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@peekay I see your point, and did wonder if that fact was even relevant to my query. Poor education and/or laziness when it comes to recycling and overconsumption is certainly not exclusive to where you lay on the social scale.

Feel free to ignore that part of my post. Although I cant help but think that some of my anger comes from my perception of that overconsumption being paid for with my taxes (if taking it to the extreme). But that's a whole different discussion thread of opinions/prejudices!

Back on topic...… 🙂


 
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Our council's waste provider is being changed. Again. So the bin men will be TUPE'd. Again. To a different company that promises more for less. Can't be very motivating but they still do the job.


 
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One in particular always grabs my attention, as during refuse collection their black bin is always overflowing. in the region of 8-10 bin bags every two weeks. whereas when the recycling bin is out, the lid is never bulging and there is no extras placed by the bin.

around here they just point blank do not pick up the extra bags.

They do sometimes empty your bin and put the black bags in your now empty bin - presumably to stop you just leaving them at the road side.


 
Posted : 03/08/2020 1:14 pm
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Or is this outside the realms of a ‘garbo’ worker and something the council would get involved in…

I suspect this is council-dependant.

When I was in the council offices it was the bin men's job to collect the bins, that was it. Any anomalies got radioed back to the office where they recorded it. Any further action (probably nothing more than a snotty letter) would come out of the office, it's not the collection guys' job to police it.

around here they just point blank do not pick up the extra bags.

Again, I suspect this is council-dependant. I've never had an issue with black bags being taken, whereas I've been told by friends in other areas that they can get fined for leaving out loose bin bags.

As you say though, half of the shits round here wouldn't care, if the council didn't collect it they'd just dump it somewhere so it's probably the lesser of two evils.


 
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we have the opposite issue ... recycling bin is full to over flow and the grey bin has about half full .....

councils solution was that we should put any extra recycling into the normal waste... HUH


 
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1289921176253296642


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 5:47 am
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^^^
All the furtiveness of a neighbour nicking your bin...

Best job I've had was emptying bins into the back of the bin lorry at the end of the day at headingley cricket ground. No idea what deal Yorks cc or ground owners had but doubtless all cash. These old guys who basically looked like hostel dwellers would fill the bins but weren't up to lifting them. Lorry would turn up without binnies, I was building labouring on the stand, and me and another lad would jog after the van. Tenner for ten mins when that was a good night out.

Anyway, our binnies are great, but bloody early at half six.


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 8:52 am
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They do a tough job in sometimes awful conditions. I just couldn't comprehend how they could wreck our bin and just bugger off. I wouldn't spill coffee into a desktop PC at work and not say anything. Or snap of a toilet seat and leave it. That was my peeve.

Salford Council delivered a brand new bin this morning and...took away the half full broken bin.

Feeling happy.

As an aside, the binmen in Nice used to turn up at 5am. What's all that about?


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 10:47 am
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As an aside, the binmen in Nice used to turn up at 5am. What’s all that about?

Errrr, would you fancy that sort of graft in 30+ degrees at midday. It gets canny warm down that way...


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 10:57 am
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Errrr, would you fancy that sort of graft in 30+ degrees at midday. It gets canny warm down that way…

Doh!

Feeling dense.


 
Posted : 06/08/2020 11:14 am

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