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STW hive mind, is this worthy of dobbing them in?
busy roundabout, which serves a main road and one joining it, so three exits.
rush hour (such as it is round our way) a queue forms on the southbound exit
the queue extends on to the roundabout, and past, especially on the north approach
I'm approaching in queue from the north
get onto roundabout
cars in front of me, cars behind me, here I am stuck in the queue
we're queueing over on the offside, in fact queuing to move from offside onto the south exit
so, next thing a 5 ton lorry comes around the nearside, on the horn, and tries to send me off round on another circuit of the roundabout, by driving right at me, whilst waving his arm and mouthing '***k off' at me.
I'm fairly sure traffic on the roundabout has priority in absolutely all cases in this here UK. Now, if I'd done something vaguely upsetting to anybody I'd understand the odd horn blast, but, you know, just sitting in a queue seems fairly inoffensive and not warranting the use of a lorry as a battering ram.
he then proceeds to stick inches from my boot down the mile long queue to the traffic lights, where I went left and he went straight on, whilst continuing to give me the finger
I looked up his lorry reg, and I figure he wasn't going to get to his work for 9am.
Cab was full of junk, lots of tree surgery type weapons present in lorry, possible road rage, etc etc.
Dob him in or not?
yes, always. Even if no 'evidence' or immediate comeback, if a number of reports combine then a word may be had.
I vote... dunno. Up to you.
I’d vote to report the driver too.
Thats provided you have accurate and formation of both scenario and driver/vehicle identification.
yes to both, it was bad enough that I noted vehicle reg, colour, company name on it, etc, and I don't do that very often (second time ever)
Yes
Email the Company boss/plant manager.
I did it when a driver from the local builders merchants cut the corner near my house, bad enough he did that, I'd stopped my bike to have a word (as I'd had to jump on the pavement) - he reversed his lorry at me. Started giving me verbals, so I just said - I know who you work for etc. A neighbour came out as the guy was about to get nasty.
Emailed the company - the MD phoned me back and he'd spoken to the driver who admitted being a tool, and he said it was upto me if I wanted to report it to the police. I left it at that because the driver got a right bollocking as the company is well known/respected in the local area - they don't want their drivers hissing off all their customers (of which I was a regular).
Nobody should use a vehicle to threaten or intimidate others, if it was a large company then you might want to ask how they think their staff affects the reputation. If you were thinking of going to the police you need to calm down the hyperbole or your whole account loses credibility: he didn’t use it as a battering ram; vehicles on the RA don’t always have priority - and others may say you were driving inconsiderately by blocking the junction. How can you see the junk in his 5 ton (odd size!) cab from a smaller vehicle? The implication that his tools of the trade were weapons is irrelevant since he never got out the vehicle or waved them at you.
If this is the most intimidating thing you’ve experienced you are must be a new driver and never ride a bike on the road. Should it happen? No. Could you be bothered spending a whole day (unpaid) waiting in court to give evidence (or perhaps more if the case gets postponed) in 9-12 months time? If it doesnt meet that test my view is it doesn’t merit expecting a constable to investigate.
yes, always. Even if no ‘evidence’ or immediate comeback, if a number of reports combine then a word may be had.
Worth reporting? Yeah.
Worth going to the police? Probably not.
I drive a bus, into/out of Edinburgh regularly at peak time traffic, it’s fairly busy, do i get uptight at sitting in a queue? Well, no, cos getting uptight makes no difference.
We all have to queue sometimes.
Perhaps if mr truck driver can’t handle that simple fact, then maybe it’s time to look for a more suitable job.
Definitely.
I did it when a lorry tried to force me off the road. Rang the company with the reg number and explained precisely what had happened. They were very apologetic and said words would be had. No idea if they did but most companies don't consider it good PR to have these sort of things happening.
he didn’t use it as a battering ram;
no, but repeatedly bumping it forward, at me, indicates a deliberate threat, maybe you disagree, your perogative
vehicles on the RA don’t always have priority – and others may say you were driving inconsiderately by blocking the junction.
east side entrance (as are the other two) is two cars wide, I let one from each lane in front of me, one traveled on round to north exit, one joined the same queue as me for south exit, in front of me, so blocking the junction? no
How can you see the junk in his 5 ton (odd size!) cab from a smaller vehicle?
dash was heaped up with stuff, that I could see, the contents of seat and lower, no, so I'll rephrase that
The implication that his tools of the trade were weapons is irrelevant since he never got out the vehicle or waved them at you
fair point, what crossed my mind was, what if he decides to get out when we're queuing, he likely has a number of things that can be used and abused, no, didn't happen, but could have gone that way.
is it the most threatening situation that has ever happened to me? no
is it borderline? wouldn't have bothered with the thread if I was beyond 100% certain
end of day, driver was out of order
I'd contact his employer, probably by email, or tweet - the laziest way possible.
Police and company (informing the company you have informed the police) any one driving for a business is their responsibility but if the complaints stack up at the police they will need to act too. Just make it factual to the cops no need to sex up the dossier.
I’d contact his employer,
He probably is his employer!
I'd probably report to the police, at least they can have words with whoever is his boss, even if It's him.
I use one of the busiest roundabouts in the UK daily (Empress roundabout, Harrogate) & It's surprisingly road rage free.
I'd do it. Last year a delivery guy from a well known online electrical retailer (I won't dob them up as they dealt with it very well) was unloading on the zigzags at the crossing outside my girls' primary school so I had a word with him and received a torrent of abuse. I took pictures of him, the vehicle and the position of it and emailed their logistics department. Within an hour I received a personal apology from their Chairman.
He probably is his employer!
Company website suggests not, it's a reasonable sized firm.
5 ton (odd size!) cab
I looked up the reg number - my error - 3 ton.
...unsexed.
Almost all are for, the ayes have it.
if it was a large company then you might want to ask how they think their staff affects the reputation.
if its an HGV then there are potentially two people responsible for the way its being driven - the driver and the Operators Licence Holder. So theres more than the company's reputation or image at stake the operator shares much of the liability with the driver.
This seems like one of those occasion when an OP gets themselves into a altercation just so they can post on here and continue it.
Anyone care to make a price on the time from horn bust to I'm going to post this on STW.
Email the company. I had a council van lose a box that hit my car. They'd been driving like idiots all the time I was behind them. The boss turned up at mine & I explained that an unsafe load can lose the driver their licence . He was very apologetic & offered pay for the small scrapes the box left on my bonnet.
I reported the driver of a well-known haulage co for tailgating and intimidating. Got a phone call from the transport manager before I had even drunk my morning coffee asking for the full details and saying the driver would be warned, at least.
This seems like one of those occasion when an OP gets themselves into a altercation just so they can post on here and continue it.
Did somebody hold you up this morning?
Contact company and police.