[Closed] Australia Visas

Only an accredited specialist solicitor and/or decent migration agent can give you proper information but my limited understanding is that having non-immediate family doesn't count for much. Have you got half a million dollars to invest?

It's all on the www.immi.gov.au website anyway/

There's plenty of online points tests to try.
Only takes a few mins.

I've a degree in engineering, relatives who would sponsor etc, so came up ok. Never followed it through though. Wife wouldn't go. Too late now (I think), I'm 45 this year. 🙁

Spent 3 weeks touring & staying with family.
I was sad boarding the flight home at Brisbane, I can tell you.

Immi is the place. They may be able to sponsor you but will depend on a few factors.

The application is also non refundable my partner visa was close to 2k all in by the time I did all that was required.

Things to note cost of living is similar once you get earning $ coming from pounds it's going to be a shock. What sort of industries are you in?

Apart from that it's a great place to be.

I've a degree in engineering, relatives who would sponsor etc, so came up ok. Never followed it through though. Wife wouldn't go. Too late now (I think), I'm 45 this year.

A colleague of mine is in his Forties and is moving to Oz in a few months time. It's not necessarily to late but having a job offer will certainly help.

Just moved back to Oz, my wife was born there so no real advise on visas other than it can take a while and is costly.

In terms of a place to live the weather rocks, the riding scene is pretty good and if you like the sea you'll be in heaven!

On a negative note it's very expensive place to live, the people can be difficult and the red tape makes England look very easy going! Oh and the wildlife can be a challenge;-)

We lived here 2007/2008 and came back so t must be ok

you want a 451 employer sponsored visa chief. Get applying for jobs in Oz.

451 is a subclass of visa for humanitarian/refugee applicants that was abolished in 2008. I think you mean 457, but that is for skilled applicants only, and OP says he doesn't have a skill that's on any of the lists.

OP: some migration agents do a free consultation. Others have a fixed fee for initial advice. It's prob worth doing in your case.

that's the one. 457 you don't have to be on the list, the list is for skilled independent migrants. 457 your employer just writes a letter saying they need you for the job, and 6 weeks later, visa.

and don't waste your time and money with migration agents. they just fill the forms in for you.

http://www.australia-mining.com/?G1

The 457 route may land you in places that don't have names yet (anyone see onehappyhippy recently?)

Plenty of jobs going round Perth but it's a pricey place to live if your not earning mine money.

What kind of engineering do you do? What is the missus's qualifications.

Dealing with a lot of big companies recently in that sort of area not sure about recruiting but there is still stuff going on. Have a look for the Aus Expo it costs about a tenner to get in but there are plenty of recruiters, mostly looking for hands on people to do FIFO work but if you have a straight forward qualification + good experience then there is a good chance of getting in.

They also have state presentations to give you an idea of whats is happening in each area and any assistance.

It's a massive country and every place is different so mileage will vary depending on where you are.

Drop me a mail if you have any specific questions.

I work in NZ with a work visa but the company I work for had a lot of work in Oz so they got me a 457 visa. I seem to remember I actually had to provide less for that then for my NZ visa. I now have NZ, Oz and as of last week Fiji.

Anyway, sure if you get a job offer then it will be easy enough.

MikeWSmith up there talks sense.

I work in oz about 10 months of the year spend the other 2 over here, have recently been sponsored by my company. There are a fair few hoops to jump through to get a visa, mine took best part of 3 months to get sorted and apparently there is still quite a back log. My company used a Migration Agent in oz and yes they mostly just fill in the forms, however if you see quite how many there are you might be happy they do.

They are relatively tight at the moment on the skilled migrant list, even as a required skill sector (Geologist) I had to prove my qualification and relative experience certified by previous employer, Current CV and references from previous employers etc.

If you can get in to the mining industry then the money is very good, the work is hard, the conditions can be challenging and if you have a family then you need to be prepared to be away from them for anything from 8 days to 4 weeks (or if you are single and stupid like me up to 9 weeks)

I can only comment on WA / Perth but the mining industry has pushed up the cost of living in Perth and if you are not on mine money then it can be tough. Accommodation in Perth is at about a 3% vacancy rate at the last I heard, and $300 a week for a 2 bed house near the city is quite normal (as is 10-30 people at any one viewing).

As a place to live in the long term, its properly not for me. There are some aspects I like but many I don't.

Back in the desert happy hippy? We got treated to some of that hot weather you had out there!!

Flip side is Tassie is cheap with some good riding and a nicer climate just f'all jobs!! Thankfully it still has functioning airports and some internet.

the mines are dead boring, you want Melbourne/Sydney/Brisvegas. What do you do?

I went the sponsored 457- 857 route, all fairly painlessly.

Brisvegas 3days and you've done it all. ..

two and a half days longer than Perth.

457 you don't have to be on the list, the list is for skilled independent migrants.

You must work in a skilled occupation that has been approved by the Australian Government.
The list of eligible occupations is available on the Consolidated sponsored occupations list...A description of the qualifications and experience required for each of the eligible occupations is at 1220.0 - ANZSCO - Australian and New Zealand Standard Classification of Occupations, First Edition, Revision 1....Subclass 457 visa applicants are required to demonstrate that they have the skills and experience necessary to perform the nominated occupation.

Subclass 457 visa applicants are required to demonstrate that they have the skills and experience necessary to perform the nominated occupation.

well, obviously. You'll not get a visa to work in a servo. I'm assuming the OP has a trade?

Neither me nor the wife have jobs / qualifications on the current "wanted list"

the wanted list is for independent migrants. the 457 means your employer gets you a visa. this is much less restrictive as there isn't a list per se. you just need a job.

yep 457 is for a job we cant fill locally, better for specialist of willing to work in where the ****.

I went to the "Down under live" expo in London last year which was ok but mostly full of agents and shipping firms touting for business. The same company publish a magazine which is quite useful. You really dont need an agent to fill in the forms, there are loads of forums out there to help.

Anyway, the immigration rules have changed as I am sure you are aware and its no longer a "pass the points test and youre in" exercise.

Now you take the points test, and if you pass, go on a waiting list based on your skills and experience for potential jobs, obtaining the visa isnt automatic. You stay on the waiting list for a period of time, if nothing comes up, you have to reapply.

as others have also said, getting an australian employer to sponsor you is the best bet but they have tightened up those areas too and the employer has to go through several hoops to justify why the vacancy can not be filled by an Australian National.

as others have also said, getting an australian employer to sponsor you is the best bet but they have tightened up those areas too and the employer has to go through several hoops to justify why the vacancy can not be filled by an Australian National.

Nope best route is to pardoning the vernacular root an aussie 🙂
Make sure you have seen a map of tassie and your in

the wanted list is for independent migrants. the 457 means your employer gets you a visa. this is much less restrictive as there isn't a list per se. you just need a job.

You can apply for a subclass 457 visa if...you have [b]relevant skills[/b] and you been nominated by an approved business to work in an [b]eligible occupation[/b]...You must work in a [b]skilled occupation[/b] that has been approved by the Australian Government...[b]The list of eligible occupations is available on the Consolidated sponsored occupations list.[/b]

The list is here:

skipping the 457 if they want you they will get you.

No one here wants to FIFO to 500km from butt **** nowhere for 5 weeks of hard work. The expo can be worth it for engineering contacts - design, control, elec or civil etc.

Sorry - this just isn't right. Did you read the info on DIC's website linked to?

been there, done that. [b]If you find an employer who has a job for you, you'll get here on a 457.[/b]

been there, done that. If you find an employer who has a job for you, you'll get here on a 457.

Bigrich, I'm in Australia, and going thru the migration process as we speak, and I'm afraid I'm with Konabunny on this one - you're presenting too simple an interpretation of the 457 eligibility.

Anyway, the fact is that the 457 is only a temporary work visa for four years. And, if you qualify for the 457, since middle of last year you will also qualify for a new category of visa that gives direct residency - the Employer Nomination Scheme ENS 186 class visa. And if you are in WA then its even easier as the whole state (including Perth metro) is now classified as a 'regional' area and there's an even easier path through the Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme RSMS 187 visa.

To those who say a migration agent just fills the forms, I'd say this thread is ample evidence of why you do need a migration agent - the amount of dodgy advice and the speed with which the regulations are changing means they are worth the (admittedly rather exhorbitant) fee.

Finally, can't remember who mentioned about the 45 age limit, but that also changed recently and is now 50 - that's why I'm now applying for residency at the ripe old age of 49 whereas I didn't qualify six months ago.

I've been through the system; it's how I got here, and a lot of my friends. We're all permanent now, and most of us are going for citizenship.

I stand by my previous advice

Nope best route is to pardoning the vernacular root an aussie

No one here wants to FIFO to 500km from butt **** nowhere for 5 weeks of hard work

Um, I kinda like it...

But then I do get a six figure salary and 2 months off paid to come and freeze my balls off in the uk.

Back in the uk at the moment Mike, I hear that it's been a bit warm, one of my contract fieldies is a Tassie and he has at to put up with wildfire in the bush and then fires back home too!

just been looking at this again after finding out on here that its now 50yrs old cut off.
also got a mate on the gold coast who says he'll look into it.

been on the website, filled in the questionnaire for what type of visa etc, but it mentions being sponsored by employers or not. i clicked both, to see what differences they made. they seem to imply you got a chance as long as your profession is on a Consolidated Sponsored Occupation List.
tried finding that, but not sure it was the right list or not, had 2 sections. both sections included professions im experienced in, (engineering, aerospace cnc turning/milling and firefighter).

have i got this list right, or is there a shorter list somewhere, as i always thought those professions werent needed.

cheers

Nope best route is to pardoning the vernacular root an aussie
Make sure you have seen a map of tassie and your in

*applauds*

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Try here, one coming up, in the end of the day it's an afternoon and has a room full of people who can give you a good idea of the process & costs.
Avoid the agents, talk to the pro's.
I went while I was in the process to get shipping quotes, banking questions, money transfer and to scope the situation with a few companies.
Lots of free pens and mints 🙂

All,

Many thanks for the comments, responce and advice, all very very much appreciated.

My wife is 29 and a fully qualified ACT pharmacy technician, which is basicaly as high up as you can go from a technicians perspective.

I am 36, had the same job from school, now a director etc. working in architectural concrete and GRC products, got C&G AutoCad qualifications, a highly employable CV but thats pretty much it.

Fortunately any costs for visas / moving is not a problem.

May consider one of the events moreover just to get an angle on what needs to be done etc.

Many thanks

Rag.

unfortunately, at 48, it looks like i only scored around 40 points in the self test, 60 needed. looks out the question for me then.... :-/

unfortunately, at 48, it looks like i only scored around 40 points in the self test, 60 needed. looks out the question for me then.... :-/

I'm in the same situation at 49, but even if you fail on the points test for independent skilled migration, you can still get in on the employer nomination scheme if you have job skills in demand, and you can find an employer willing to sponsor you.

In fact, although independent migration used to be the main way in a few years back, when the Goverment looked into it an unhealthy number of independent migrants were having difficulty settling and finding a job. So, now its about two thirds employer nomination and one third independent.

Check out the ENS186 visa stream on the immigration web site to see if you'd qualify, and then as others have suggested above, go to a few job fairs to see if you can hook up with an employer...