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They look nice. Anyone driven one?


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 12:14 pm
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Its just another fake VW, stick with your Passet 😉


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 12:28 pm
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I see them a lot usually in 2.0TDI form - usualy about two inches from my rear bumper in places I can't move over.

Nice looking, just another overpriced rebadged VW underneath. S5 nice, RS5 has a slightly torqueless engine for a car that heavy.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 12:33 pm
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Look, I don't care if it's a VW underneath. Exterior, interior, equippment and set-up are all different on the various VWs, and they are all important.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 12:36 pm
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Nice looking car and I'm sure it will be excellent in all departments from a mere mortal's perspective, if not from that of the driving gods who frequent this here forum 🙄


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 12:39 pm
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My boss at my last place of work had the 3.0 TDi and I drove that once.

Not really driven anything similar to compare it against, but it was very nice.
The one I drove was fitted with the DSG gearbox which suited the car and it was deceptively quick.
I was suprised how good the ride was compared to what I was expecting - it was more compliant than I thought it would be.

The interior was very nice.

Boss reckoned he averaged 38mpg on his normal commute.


 
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My old boss had one, really nice inside and in 2.0T petrol it felt pretty nippy.

Rear seats are useless as actual seats. I'd only get one if I was single or a DINKY


 
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They look nice.

I must have a different car in mind then... 🙄

To me they empitomise Audi's (and Mercedes Benz') "me too" approach to styling - trying to capitalise on the overtly sportier market that used to be BMW's...

A5 / S5 look unecessarily brutish to my mind, no delicacy or refined touches. A4 (and to some extent A3) has gone the same way recently as well. Trying to look all muscular, masculine and aggressive


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 12:45 pm
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Was a nice looking car but too common now, think all the trunks who used .to drive 3 series now drive them. Can't say I've driven one, but motoring press slate the rs version


 
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Mike - does it really take a driving "god" to be tailgated by some ar5e in an A5? No it doesn't. They are pretty cars but generally contain weeny little engines usually found in hatchbacks.

rkk - okay they look niceISH!

Most/all have those hideous Daytime Running Lights... also available at the chav department of your local Halfords...


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 12:46 pm
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A4 (and to some extent A3) has gone the same way recently as well. Trying to look all muscular, masculine and aggressive

I definitely agree. They all look too aggressive from the front, but the A5 looks nice from the side I reckon.

Mat, we already discussed that I don't care about tons of bhp 🙂


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 12:50 pm
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Read a Clarkson review of the A5 once, said he'd rather have swine flu.


 
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Ah yes but Clarkson also likes Alfas...

Mol - yes I know but why have a car that [i]looks[/i] powerful and aggressive but actually isn't? Just stick to the Passat or if you really want a coupe shape, get a Passat CC. Prettier IMO.


 
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Posted : 13/09/2010 12:59 pm
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Read a Clarkson review of the A5 once, said he'd rather have swine flu.

There's nothing like making one's own mind up, is there..!


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 1:00 pm
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Most/all have those hideous Daytime Running Lights... also available at the chav department of your local Halfords...

Erm, aren't they about to become compulsory on new cars in the EU soon?


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 1:01 pm
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yes I know but why have a car that looks powerful and aggressive but actually isn't?

Why not?

If I like the way it looks then I like the way it looks. Bit daft to shell out on a great big engine if I don't want it.

This world of car people is a bloody strange one!

But I do very much like the Passat CC also, and is probably more my style. At least I'd get let out of junctions.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 1:04 pm
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Most new cars I see appear to have those day time lights now. On the right car they look nice.

A5s in my opinion are very nice. 🙂


 
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Daytime running lights are / have been very contentious with the motorcyclists


 
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People who haven't driven an A5 aren't qualified to discuss any aspect of one, so shouldn't be commenting on this thread....blah blah....morons who know nothing about anything....blah blah rear wheel drift....blah blah

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Why not?

Think:

Chubby guy in a tight "muscle" vest.
Gobby guy that's actually rather scared
Fully kitted up DH rider that is nervous of DH riding
Beginner surfer on a shortboard

To me and many others, "all show no go" is deeply uncool.

Stumpy - no but I've driven plenty of A4s and they are pretty much the same. Now please find me a good review of an A5...


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 1:12 pm
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But Mat, your car is not a statement of your power and masculine strength...


 
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No it's not but they are useful analagies.

Taking to base level - think fit pretty chick who is utterly useless/lazy in bed and nags all the time ... 😉


 
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coupe is a lot better than the sportback, different chassis (sportback is an a4 underneath not an proper a5)

3.0tdi quattro sport is the one, 60/40 rear bias and all the torque you could ever want

s5 is pretty awesome too, haven't had a rip in an rs5 yet but I would say that's going to be incredible


 
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I just don't care what other people think of my car. I draw your attention yet again to the Prius in my drive 🙂

Not that I'm ever gonna buy an A5 mind, just wondering about them and trolling a little I must admit 🙂 But I do like the look of them.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 1:24 pm
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Usual spouting off from people who don't know what they're on about...

The A4 and Passat no longer platform share. The Passat is built on a modified Golf platform.

The A5 is on a modified A4 platform.


 
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molegrips, I cant understand why someone who seems so disinterested in cars, would even worry what one looked like ?

I understand where Mat is comming from, at the end of a day a car is for driving, if it does not drive well it misses the point of being a car. Like a really nice looking mountain bike that rides like a heap of crap.

Driving well does not have to mean fast, it can me comfortable or fun or all 3.

So are you saying you want a car that looks good for posing in but you dont car what it drives like ?

Bazzer


 
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Mol - exactly. You drive a Prius so don't care, I often drive a Jimny so don't care. In fact I often feel a bit of a t1t in the BM but it's good enough to bear that cross.

But why get a car that looks all sporty and shouty when it's actually slower and worse handling than a modest hatchback which costs far far less?

I had a 318d M Sport loaner the other day - only 145bhp yet covered in all the M Sport plastic bodywork, big alloys, massive rear tyres, M Sport badges everywhere. I felt so stupid in it that I stuck on a rarely used beanie and sunglasses on to try and disguise myself!

Again another analagy springs to mind - a bit gold shouty Rolex. That's fake.

I see the stalker geeks taggers are trying to have some fun. How's yer Punto/Mondeo/whatever? 😉


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 1:27 pm
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Driving well does not have to mean fast, it can me comfortable or fun or all 3.

That is my position exactly.

I'm not disinterested in cars, but I am disinterested in silly fast ones. I would love a nippy nice driving car, but I also very much don't want to waste fuel, which is why sporty ish but frugal TDI coupes appeal to me. Hence the question 🙂

So are you saying you want a car that looks good for posing in but you dont car what it drives like ?

As above, I want a car that handles nicely in reasonable driving, is slightly quick, is comfy, well equipped, looks nice inside and out and is economical.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 1:29 pm
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But why get a car that looks all sporty and shouty when it's actually slower and worse handling than a modest hatchback which costs far far less?

I don't see it that way. From the side and rear I think it looks stylish and classy, very German. The grilles etc are a bit much tho granted. I think BMW and some A4s are much worse.

If it was as you said, then I'd not be interested. If it was what it looked like then I would. Hence asking if anyone'd driven one.


 
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Matt, a ****t who drives like a ****t will drive like a ****t regardless of what car they drive, so I don't think your A5 tailgating example is particularly conclusive.

You drive a quick car (your "stealth bomber" as you are always so quick to remind us at every given opportunity), so I bet you drive it like a ****t at times. You might not think you're driving like a ****t, but others probably do.

Anyhow, I don't think Molgrips has any intention of ever buying an Audi, he just posts these threads to get a rise out of you, and you never disappoint - though the responses are beginning to get a bit repetitive now.


 
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Well here's someone that has driven it:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/209164/audi_a5.html

And I point you to these paras:

[i]There are three main things wrong with the A5 idea. Here’s the first. Compared with other Audis with front-mounted, longitudinal engines, it has a revised disposition of major components. The differential is now between the engine and the clutch, which brings the front wheels forward to the benefit of weight distribution and looks, and the lower-mounted steering rack is connected to the front wheels by shorter, less flexible steering arms. Yet, to drive, the A5 – and S5 especially – still has the nose-heavy, inert feel the new chassis was surely intended to eradicate.

So, what happened? Dr Horst Glaser, Audi’s dynamics chief, is clearly annoyed. ‘I agree with you,’ he says, ‘but the marketing people insisted it was this way so the A5 would feel familiar to Audi buyers.’ What about those buyers Audi seeks to steal from BMW, then? ‘I hope we can change it gradually,’ Dr Glaser replies, ruefully.

Snag two is that the A5 is unnecessarily big for a car with such meagre rear room. It feels bulky as a result; the forthcoming A4 saloon, which shares the new platform, will be narrower.

And then there’s the way it looks. Take one Audi Nuvolari concept car (Geneva 2003), take away the metallic, technical look with its taut lines and constant-radius curves, add a flabby waistline and confuse the curve in the rear side window, and you have a bland car which throws away much that Audi design has been working towards for years. Styling chief Walter de’Silva says it’s the most beautiful car he’s ever created. So much for the fusion of Bauhaus and the Italian carrozzeria legacy.[/i]


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 1:35 pm
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What was that you were saying about the aspirational middle classes being boring as ****


 
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Mike - come on certain cars attract silly driving.

BMWs (yes they do), certain Audis, many Golfs, some Mercs, etc.

There's usually a common theme - prestige(ish) brand owned by middle managers who need to "prove" their executive car is in fact also quick. So it's usually small engined ones with something to prove.

For some reason I rarely see "properly" quick cars being driven stupidly. Might just be me, might not. And yes I do make cock ups all too often. Being awesome doesn't stop me being human 😉

Poor old taggers are getting a wee bit desperate now. Sorry, not enough attention being paid to you? There you go, feel better now?


 
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Stumpy - no but I've driven plenty of A4s and they are pretty much the same. Now please find me a good review of an A5...

Here you go:

My boss at my last place of work had the 3.0 TDi and I drove that once.

Not really driven anything similar to compare it against, but it was very nice.
The one I drove was fitted with the DSG gearbox which suited the car and it was deceptively quick.
I was suprised how good the ride was compared to what I was expecting - it was more compliant than I thought it would be.

The interior was very nice.

Boss reckoned he averaged 38mpg on his normal commute.

or:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/newreviews/209763/audi_a5.html
http://fwd.five.tv/cars/luxury-sports/audi-a5
http://www.whatcar.com/car-reviews/audi/a5-coupe/summary/25717-4
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/audi/a5-coupe-2007.aspx
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/209164/audi_a5.html
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results/First-drives/Audi-A5/?content-block=0

Hmmmm.
Main criticisms are that it is cramped in the back (no suprise there, then) & it doesn't drive as well as a 3-series.The buyers of this car are probably aware of both of those issues and unsuprisingly aren't that bothered.
"People have other priorities to Surf-Mat" SHOCKER.

My boss who owned the 3.0 TDi that I drove could be considered somewhat of a petrolhead, having owned an Impreza that had been tinkered with by one of his mate's who works for Prodrive followed by a 330cD and then followed by the Audi (all company cars).
He has also owned various trackday cars over the years, his latest one being a Delta Integrale......


 
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I don't think Molgrips has any intention of ever buying an Audi, he just posts these threads to get a rise out of you

I don't intend to buy one - at least, not for a while, but I was interested to see people's thoughts. I knew Mat would slag it off mind 🙂

I'm not sure Evo car magazine ('the thrill of driving') adequately reflects my values tho mate 🙂


 
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Oh, just read part of that review Mat posted:

But here I am, driving the 3.0 TDI on mountainous roads near Verona, and I’m having an increasingly good time after my earlier dismay at the S5. Overladen Fiat Ducato truck occupying a short uphill straight? Stay in third gear, foot down, surge past as the torque sluices forth. Hairpin bend? Second gear, foot down again, wait but half a second, exercise the rearward-biased quattro drive for a full-traction explosion from the exit. This is a fine machine for mountain roads.

I’m warming to this A5, enjoying its solidity and quietness and real-world eagerness

Sounds quite nice actually 🙂


 
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A5 Quattro 3.0TDI here.

0-60 on my <cough>personal test track</cough> is sub 6 seconds. OK, OK, so it isn't all about the off-the-blocks speed but it gives an indication of how relatively quickly these cars can move.

Motorway cruising (in 7th gear) returns over 40mpg at, or around, the NSL. Going through those compulsory 50mph sections raises fuel economy to 65mpg+

Quattro handling really makes quite a difference. We test drove the 3.2FSI (or whatever it is) petrol and it was gutless and suffered from torque steer when you floored it. The Quattro is incredibly stable and you have loads of confidence when cornering in dry or wet.

I didn't try the smaller engined cars - I expect they would be way under powered and gutless for a car of this size.

Great torque, great overtaking capability.

Boot space is great for shopping, but not quite right for bike transportation so I had to buy a roof mounting kit for the MTB.

Enough toys inside to keep everyone happy.

It is only a 4 seater. There is no central seat belt in the back.

Sports auto setting, or switch to manual, makes for a much improved experience.

Others to consider: BMW, Jag XF, Merc CLS etc. But the Audi was the only one that met our requirements: 4WD (but not a 4x4 soft-roader), auto, decent boot space etc.

Spirited driving around the Peaks - where I live - and up at Kielder last week put a smile on my face. By comparison, my other car is a Lotus.


 
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Mike - the 3.0TDI is a different beast. AWD (2.0TDIs are mainly FWD) and properly rapid with brakes to match. It's the 2.0TDI I'm on about.

And the Delta Integrale - is that meant to be your coup de grace? Yes they are nice but they fall to bits and aren't what I'd call track cars. And a Prodrive Impreza? Again decent but would you want one? I wouldn't.

And to djg - would I be right in thinking you're not getting enough attention? I have noticed a few digs that I've ignored. Then I found out why - you actually wrote this post.

I'm almost speechless:

[i]I am social mobility in motion. Born in a teesside estate, now pulling in 6 figures living in West London.[/i]
😆 😆

From an actual A5 owner. And if anyone read back, it's the small engined versions that rile me, not the "proper" ones.

I didn't try the smaller engined cars - I expect they would be way under powered and gutless for a car of this size.


 
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😀

I wondered if anyone would have a pop at that post, all I can say is some of it's true, and some of it's not but I wish it was!


 
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Just another "boring VW Passat"!


 
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I also really like the Jag XF. It's apparently the best car around for towing a caravan - seriously! 🙂


 
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The new small Jag really does challenge my preconceptions.
Lovely looking car. Couldn't be doing with a saloon though.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 3:21 pm
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Had a look at one a few weeks back at an open day for the lease car scheme, was very nice and well superior inside and out to the Passat CC. Enough room in the back for the amount of time I'd have adults in but the price is probably a little out of my way.

I liked it a lot.


 
Posted : 13/09/2010 3:23 pm
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With reference to Matt's point about LED running lights earlier in the thread:
[IMG] [/IMG]


 
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Not all Audis have LED running lights, and those that do can turn them off (y)


 
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Jag XF isn't what I'd call small - 1800kgs and pretty hefty. A very decent motor though.

Bol - nice one! There's an Audi one too with the LEDs shaped like a knob. Can't find it though!


 
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Aren't you meant to point out that it's 'just' a Mondeo?


 
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It's not though - it's much more than that and the engines are absolutely brilliant. Not my cup of tea but still very good indeed.


 
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A couple of mates have them, they're very nice inside. They drive alright but like most cars of their type the performance version is expensive. I think its quite a well-judged car to be honest, it looks well, its decent quality, it lets you drive a "coupe" with emergency seats as a back-up.

Some people would suggest that diesel engines have no place in performance cars, its all down to what you want out of the car.


 
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More gibberish on STW.

The XF is rear wheel drive. The Mondeo is front wheel drive. How much potential for platform sharing do you think there is? None.


 
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I know tron, platform sharing isn't just duplication - I was being sarcastic since that's what people always say on here.

I think diesel engines are great for the GT role - all that torque means lazy power, good for relaxed but still enjoyably brisk driving.


 
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think fit pretty chick who is utterly useless/lazy in bed and nags all the time

I used to go out with her.... 😐


 
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A5 v BMW? I couldn't give a flying **** how good a 'drivers' car a Beemer is supposed to be, I wouldn't be seen dead in one. It's [i]all[/i] about aesthetics as far as I'm concerned, and BMW haven't built a car with clean, uncluttered lines in decades, the A5 on the other hand has almost flawless lines, the slightly curved waistline flows from front to rear with no visual interruption, lights and panel edges all blend together beautifully; BMW lines always look messy, cluttered and crude by comparison. There's a coupé, a six series?, with that huge ugly overhanging bootlid, makes me cringe every time I see one. And Matt's irritating prattling about Audi being rebadged VW; really? How about my Octavia? Most of the components in it all seem to have Audi logos on. It's VAG; the Volkswagen/Audi Group, they share platforms and engine technology, but their design philosophy is totally different, as are SEAT and Skoda's. I like Passats and the CC is sleek, but given the money I'd be into the nearest Audi dealer fast enough to redshift to get an S5 3.0TDi. I honestly think they're one of the most perfectly designed cars around. I'm not a vastly experienced high speed driver so the subtleties of it's handling are lost on me, I just want a car to make my heart beat a little faster every time I look at it, go reasonably quickly, within the limits imposed by a rapidly degenerating road network, and not give me a bad back after driving it 100miles. Oh, and give more than 30/per.


 
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My Dad had a 3.0 TDI Quattro A5 when they were brand spanking new, so 07 plate, think his was one of the very first few cars in the country. Certainly I didn't see another A5 for about 2-3 months from when he got his (they're EVERYWHERE now)...

Anyway, his was the Sport version, with a manual gearbox, and quattro drivetrain. He had it for just over a year, in which time I drove it quite a few times, probably did about 1000 miles in it (including a 500 mile round trip to the lakes and back with my GF at the time) and I've got several things I can say about it...

-At the time it was THE ULTIMATE pose car, cos it was so fresh the way it looked, and nobody else had one... I remember being stuck in a traffic jam on the M6 in it, 2 guys (looked like pro footballers) in a blinged up Audi Q7 with massive rims were next to me, their jaws dropped! They couldn't stop staring at it... That said, they've been around for 3 years now, and there's lots of em about, so they no longer have the same cache.
-The car NEEDS 19" rims at least (visually anyhow), because the wheelarches are massive, and anything else looks lost in there. The problem with that is that it makes the ride quite crashy with such low profile tyres (my Dad's car did have the 19" rims on).
-The car is deceptively rapid, mainly cos it's so torquey. 0-60 is sub 6 seconds, you couldn't spin the wheels if you tried though such is the grip from the 4wd and the massive tyres! The manual gearbox is a bit clunky in use though, it's ok just not that quick to use.
-Brakes (as per usual with Audi's) are over servoed, though not as much as previous generation A4's.
-Rear legroom isn't the best, but no worse than on a previous generation A4 (yeah, seriously!)
-Boot is surprisingly big for a 2 door coupe, and rear seats fold down, so MTB transport inside the car is possible.
-The combined key/start button thingy is REALLY annoying after a while.
-MPG is not bad at all, not as good as with a smaller engine of course, but my Dad averaged 40mpg in his the whole time he had it, my 500 mile round trip to the lakes (most of it spent going a bit too fast on the motorway) managed a 38mpg average, a trip on the dual carriageways at a constant 60mph would see 50mpg returned!
-Audi inbuilt Sat Nav is BOLLOX... Total BOLLOX. How the hell can they make something so expensive work a LOT worse than a £100 tom tom?

Should point out though, that all said above, as a driver's car it wasn't really very exciting. Tonnes of grip for sure, and you could throw it into any corner way faster than you might think and the quattro and massive tyres would get it round, but it was very undynamic. A BMW 3 series is a MUCH better car to drive (I've done more than 20,000 miles in the current shape 3 series' cars)... But obviously not quite as striking to look at.


 
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...but instead CZ, you have an Octavia... 😆


 
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[i]Some people would suggest that diesel engines have no place in performance cars, its all down to what you want out of the car. [/i]

Agreed, and when money is tight you can always get work with these guys:

http://www.arcexecutive.co.uk/


 
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Interesting point about the Nuvolari. I was playing GT4 and stumbled across it in my garage, and it's not a patch on the A5 visually. I also think the Passat CC is an amazing looking car.

There's also an argument that says the smaller engines are the perfect engines for these cars - the style which plays an important part in the buying decision means that if you're not going as fast then more people will see you. So get the big wheels and the small engine, job done.


 
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A5? Pah!!

I had an A8 4.2 v8 diesel for a job last week - 0-60mph in 5.5 seconds from a car that weighs about 2000kg. Has a maximum towing weight of 2335kg and it did 24mpg average through the day. It was the 1st silver one I'd seen and looked absolutely fantastic in the flesh.


 
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I test drove an A5 3.0tdi manual about 6 months after they appeared. It was frankly awful. Very quick in a straight line but horrible understeer, no steering feel, no brake feel, manual gearbox horribly imprecise. The absolute pinnacle of the standard Audi "looks good boring to drive" school. Even the uprated Bose stereo was rubbish - plenty of bass but no detail or finesse.

On top of that, IMO the styling is wrong - it's somehow too long and soft, but that's obviously an individual thing


 
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XF uses same platform as the old S-Type Jag, a platform that was shared with Lincoln, the only connection with Mondeo is that was the cost basis for XF.

Most/all have those hideous Daytime Running Lights
DRL's are law on all new cars from 2012.

A5 is not to the same standard of fit and finish normally associated with Audi, they have let that slip on the sportier appearing models and let their design department have more of an influence.


 
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TBH BMWs 2010 cars have some blatant cost cutting going on too. Sit in a 2006-2009 3 series then get in a 2010 one and prepare to be shocked.

Worse standard stereo, cheaper materials, etc.

I think most marques are doing it, regardless of "prestige."

Votchy - yep aware of the rules but they still look cack; I have a feeling that once LED headlights are standard kit, the current "style" (I used the term loosely) of DRLs shall fade away quietly to the chav add-on section of Halfords...


 
Posted : 14/09/2010 1:05 pm
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As with most of these threads, I have nothing to contribute, but I really like the look of the A5. I suspect that I'll eventually get around to driving one and be thoroughly disappointed.


 
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[i]Worse standard stereo, cheaper materials, etc.[/i]

Interesting you say that, a friend recently bought a new BMW and the paint finish on the outside looks pretty rank for the cost.
Now I'm not one to pay much attention to cars but it really was quite dreadful. Looked like it had been put on with an orange peel coated roller 🙂


 
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Ian - an all too common issue on BMWs, even older "better made" ones. Even some M3s come through looking pretty poor. It's standard procedure for new buyers to get their cars "sorted" by the dealer before accepting them.

Most are fine - mine's got a nice deep sheen luckily but still scratches easily; some are pretty bad. Not that handy!

A recent 1 series I had as a loaner had a pretty low rent interior too - I think the entire range has slipped a bit.


 
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Was in looking at an A4 Avant SLine today, quite plasticky interior if you don't get the spec right. Had a look at a Passat CC, a lot of solid well finished car for the money I reckon!

Anyone driven a 2.0TFSI A4 Avant? I know it's a decent engine, but worried about scrabbling about with FWD only (quattro puts it over car scheme CO2 limit). Other option is 2.0TDI (170) quattro, anyone driven that?


 
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A mate has a Passat CC. Nicely finished but he reckons a bit disappointing to drive.


 
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My mates wife has an S5 it sounds ace and goes like stink - she's had it round the Nurburgring 😯


 
Posted : 14/09/2010 6:17 pm
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Mate got a Skoda Superb recently. A very impressive car for the money. Luxurious & spacious inside, with all the toys you could want.


 
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stop being bitches, we all know there is only one audi...

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Posted : 14/09/2010 8:12 pm
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Mate got a Skoda Superb recently. A very impressive car for the money. Luxurious & spacious inside, with all the toys you could want.

With a name like that I would expect nothing less.


 
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did it have a built in dildo in the drivers seat?


 
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I looooovvvvvveeeeee the fact that STW has it's own Jeremy Clarkson. Every time ANYONE posts ANYTHING about cars Singletrack Jeremy comes along.

I looovvvvveeeeesssss it.


 
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I see a disproportionate number of people driving in a ****ish manner behind the wheel of A5s.


 
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hehe
I love STW threads like this.
The A5 coupe looks great (the sportback isn't quite so succesful). Its why its popular in all engine guises, but ultimately people buy them because its an Audi, and everyone knows what Audi stands for in terms of build quality and reliability, not to mention brand cachet. It would seem most reviews suggest the RS5 doesn't have enough torque and isn't quite the drivers car most were hoping for, especially after the RS4 promised so much. Most have also suggested that either the larger diesels or the petrol S5 are the better ones to go for.
Don't see how you can compare it to the Passat/Golf/Skodas, price alone means they're not comparable. BMWs tend to drive nicer, but they're not for everyone. Having said that, I've always been a BMW fan, but I really like the Jag XF.
One other thing, Top Gear cool wall, it was commented on a couple of series ago about how the 'cocks' have moved from the BMWs to the Audis. I'd say its pretty evenly split these days. Both marques have become the choice of those ****s who come firing up behind you on the motorway flashing their lights at you.


 
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If I bought one, it'd be purely because of the way it looks, and the fact that there are good diesel engines.


 
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Oh, cracking engines in my expierence. The ex's dad has a 3.0 V6 diesel quattro, goes brilliantly, makes a nice noise (for a diesel) and good mpg. But everyone elses engines are also up there now too. Jag 2.7tdi. BMW 35d.


 
Posted : 14/09/2010 9:53 pm
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Why compare the Audi range as dressed up SEAT/Skoda/VW platforms?

I prefer to consider mine a dressed down, more subtle, Bentley/Lamboughini/Bugatti :p


 
Posted : 15/09/2010 10:46 am
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I also really like the Jag XF. It's apparently the best car around for towing a caravan

Dude, seriously 😯

If you do do that I [s]might[/s] will have have to come round to your house and shoot you!

😉


 
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My mate was well chuffed when he arrived at the Bonty last year and the parking bloke asked if his A5 was an Aston Martin!! Think that says more about the calibre of the car parking staff than the A5!!


 
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