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So, 16.40 yesterday afternoon and I'm walking from my front door to my car (a 15/20 metre walk). A man in his late thirties approaches from the other direction with a HUGE Rottweiler on a lead. I'm not frightened of dogs so I think nothing of it and walk past. As I draw level with them, without any provocation whatsoever the dog lurches up at me with its jaws wide open and tries to bite me on the face! Rather keen to avoid this I raise my forearm in front of my face and the dog promptly bites my arm.

Luckily, I was wearing quite a thick down jacket and as a result the bite didn't break the skin. However, I have pretty severe bruising and my jacket is ruined as the dog tore a 7/8 inch hole in it and a large quantity of down was strewn across the pavement.

The owner was very apologetic, I was in a state of shock. I had no idea what the protocol was for post-dog attack incidents, but I told him he'd have to pay me £160 for the jacket (for that is what it cost me). He knows where I live and he lives two doors down from me. Despite promising he'd come over with the money, he hasn't yet (which is entirely predictable). I didn't consider calling the police at the time as in my experience they really aren't interested in proper crime, let alone this sort of thing which I assume would be a civil matter.

Obviously, the dog may have done this before and it could do it again. I wouldn't fancy a child's chances against that thing. So, should I just report the dog anyway? The guy lives in an HMO with a bunch of full-time dossers who've caused havoc on our road for a while. If their dog gets put-down I'm potentially opening myself up to a campaign of vandalism/harassment with no chance of police support.

Weeing in the owner's shoes is not an option as that would necessitate entering this beast's lair. Similarly, I am unaware of any model within the Bomber range capable of delivering the knock-out blow to this hell hound.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:12 am
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Honestly report it, the owner will get a bollocking and the dog should be muzzled in public; and thats from someone who is very pro dog.

It won't necessarily be destroyed, if this is a first offence.

Do the bruise look to be caused by teeth? As if they don't he could deny the incident unless you have witnesses


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:14 am
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Report it.

/there will now follow arguments.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:15 am
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As above.

Report it.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:16 am
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seriously, it could be a child's face next time


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:16 am
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/there will now follow arguments.

You reckon? I don't think even TJ could start an argument on this one


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:16 am
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No argument from this quarter... Report it.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:17 am
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Should be reported really, but understand that doing so could make life difficult seeing as the perp & the beast live a few doors down.

I think that the Dangerours Dogs Act states maximum 6 months at the mercy of 'Big Vern' in the showers of D Wing is possible for the owner as the dog has bitten you


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:19 am
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Nor mine (and I'm a dog owner)
Report it.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:20 am
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Indeed - it is a criminal offence - report it. You don't no report crimes because you are scared of retaliation.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:21 am
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harsh though it may be, how would you feel if you do nothing and a kid does get mauled?

I don't really see how you have much choice but to let the police know.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:21 am
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Report it.

and Z1's ftw.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:22 am
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I think obviously the 'right' thing to do is report it.

However we have no idea how relations with you neighbours will develop only you can call that.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:22 am
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REPORT THE OWNER FOR HAVING A DANGEROUS DOG.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:29 am
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Report it from this dog owner too.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:31 am
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Report him.. You could be eating through a straw right now!


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:32 am
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Have him killed. And the dog. And all the dossers in the house. And maybe his extended family too. Bingo... you have negated the chance of retaliation, and improved the environment of all your neighbours, thus earning their eternal gratitude. Its a win/win 😀


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:40 am
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were you wearing McMeaties New Megameat Aftershave?


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:43 am
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Dog owner here as well. Please report it.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:43 am
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Report it without hesitation ,you got lucky and they are big dogs if they do turn and it could/will do some serious damage to someone if it wants.
please report.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:44 am
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REPORT THE OWNER FOR HAVING A DANGEROUS [b]and out of control [/b]DOG.

Anyway HMO full of dossers, you really think you'll begetting a couple of weeks worth of giro out of them?

EDIT HMO full of dossers? off to the council offices, find out who owns the house, write to owner that you will be reporting THEM for allowing a dangerous dog to kept ont heir property. Although it's probably nothing to do with the owners, most landlords don't allow pets, and specifically ones that cause them grief.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:47 am
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Call the police. Report it. Next time someone's face and you live with the fact you didn't report it and prevent something truly horrific.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:51 am
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Are you sure it was a dog that tore your clothes and not a Paramedic?


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 10:56 am
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seriously, it could be a child's face next time

Could be worse then, I doubt a child's face could even scratch a down jacket.


 
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I'd report it - and would be keen for the dog to be destroyed.
There is no way i'd want to be living a few doors down from a dog like that - they have no place as domestic pets and should be removed before it rips someones face off.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 11:16 am
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call the police. I had a large Rottweiler come out of a house in our village at me when i was on my bike. I called the police and they followed it up with a visit to the owner. The dog was roaming free about the village, where we took my (<1yr old) daughter out in the pushchair for walks.

If it is not reported how can any preventative action be taken? Imagine if it were, as mentioned, a small child that was bitten next time and how you would feel.

Also, if you have sustained an injury then surely that needs to be reported? Yes, the person will know it was you that called the police, but they would surely be expecting that to happen after you were bitten?


 
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report it to the kennel club..

it's obviously some sort of counterfeit rottweiler if it can't even bite through

quite a thick down jacket

and report it to the police too
out of control dogs and their owners are a menace..


 
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As someone who set up a Facebook page for her dog and has been known to refer to him as her 'furry son' - report it! If the dog attacks people without provocation whilst it's on a lead, it's blatantly dangerous. It could do serious harm, especially to children or to other pets.

My in-laws recently acquired an ill-tempered Yorkiepoo - despite looking like a tiny ewok, he's muzzled when taken into parks and the like as he can be a bit nippy. They've got a trainer for him, which will hopefully lead to better behaviour - I fear that your neighbour's rottie won't get that unless his owner has an official visit, and his behaviour will be left unchecked. Too many people dismiss their dog's misbehaviour as a 'one-off', and sometimes it is. But sometimes, it's a kid's face, then you end up with a scarred (or worse) kid and a destroyed dog.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 11:18 am
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harsh though it may be, how would you feel if you do nothing and a kid does get mauled?

This, 100 times over. report it right now!


 
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RA RA SHOUTY SHOUT.

Not really sure of the relevance of including the breed of the dog in the title. Probably wouldn't be as provocative if the thread was titled 'Attacked by a dog outside my home'. Either way if it was a Pug or a Mastif an attack by a dog should be reported and you're going to have to deal with the consequences.

Or you could just shy away for an easy life and do nothing about it.

You know the thing you should be doing you just seem to want the internet to tell you it would be ok to do the easy thing.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 11:23 am
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Watch Tyranasaur.
Then machette the dogs head off, sit on a chair in your front garden and wait for the owner.

Or report it

MM


 
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How do you know this is the first instance of this dog attacking someone? The owner could have already recieved a warning regarding the behaviour of dog, If its 'having a go' while on the lead really its only a matter of time before it does some poor soul real damage.

Report it, its the sensible thing to do.


 
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report him from, i had a rottie all my life if you can't control your dog / any dog, you shouldn't be allowed to keep it. at the very least should be muzzled


 
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Having previously owned, what some would incorrectly call, a dangerous dog, I would say mention it to the Police.
It doesn't have to be a formalised report, just something that the police are aware of and let them make the deicision. If there have been previous reports, they will obviously know.
You sound like there has been a bit of a shock and I apologise on behalf of all responsible dog owners and hope it doesn't make you feel negatively about man's best friend.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 11:34 am
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MountainMutant - I watched that last night. Isn't it necessary to beat it to death with a baseball bat before lopping its head off?


 
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- they have no place as domestic pets and should be removed before it rips someones face off.

So are you saying that all rotties should be banned?
I do however agree like I said above that this dog should be reported.


 
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rotties make great family dogs, and with kind owners are very loyal friendly breeds. dogs will take on personality of the owner, if they're a tool so the dog will be. don't descend into daily mail stereotypes about evil dogs.


 
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there are procedures inplace for this sort of thing - here they have failed.

Nice of you to get in your usual dog bashing while you are at it

The best way to learn from mistake is to go to no fault incident analyis. But you would rather hammer people for mistakes wouldn't you. An increase not decrease in training would not go amiss as well (sic)


 
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rotties make great family dogs,

epecially if you want to downsize the number of kids you have to feed whilst reducing the spend on dog food - win win for poor chavs


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 11:52 am
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RA RA SHOUTY SHOUT.

Not really sure of the relevance of including the breed of the dog in the title. Probably wouldn't be as provocative if the thread was titled 'Attacked by a dog outside my home'. Either way if it was a Pug or a Mastif an attack by a dog should be reported and you're going to have to deal with the consequences.

Or you could just shy away for an easy life and do nothing about it.

You know the thing you should be doing you just seem to want the internet to tell you it would be ok to do the easy thing.

Sit on it Cunningham and take the outrage bus back to the depot 😉

I've reported it to the police (on the non-emergency number, obviously) and will now wait for them to do whatever it is they do about this type of thing. Bugger the jacket, no chance of getting any money back for that (and better that than a 'child's face' etc etc). I like dogs, but if this one ends up getting put-down it may be for the best.


 
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Good man.


 
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rotties make great family dogs, and with kind owners are very loyal friendly breeds. dogs will take on personality of the owner, if they're a tool so the dog will be. don't descend into daily mail stereotypes about evil dogs.

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Posted : 10/04/2012 11:57 am
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I'm a fish owner and I think you've done the right thing.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 11:57 am
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I'm a child owner and you've *definitely* done the right thing!


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 11:59 am
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I'm a face owner and I think you've done the right thing.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 12:00 pm
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Be sure to get photos of the injury but wait a couple of days until the bruising really comes out.


 
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Report it a hundered thousand times over (maybe a bit OTT). I'd follow it up in a week or so too, especially if your not gonna get owt back for the jacket. Responsible dog owners are all well and good and its a shame that its the minority that spoil it, but thats life.

Surely this is another argument for Dog Licences.

Let the "discussions" commence.


 
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I've got a fish, a child and a face and I'm struggling to think of a punchline.


 
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I'm still waiting for a member of the wildfowl community to congratulate the Rottweiler on doing the right thing by attacking me, maybe it just took exception to my down jacket? 😛

ETA: I like dogs, so much so that I even own one of my very own! I included 'Rottweiler' in the thread title for that is what it was, in much the same way that if I was seeking information about VW Golfs I would specify that rather than 'Tell me about cars!' or suchlike.

I know Rotties get a bad press, but that happened to be the breed on this occasion. I'll be sure to report back with any sightings of renegade King Charles Cavalier Spaniels too 🙂


 
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My in-laws recently acquired an ill-tempered Yorkiepoo - despite looking like a tiny ewok, he's muzzled when taken into parks and the like as he can be a bit nippy.

As an aside,

Generally speaking, why [i]do [/i]people own these things? And by choice too?

I get why people might want a bigger dog for home security, and / or a friendly pooch for a family pet. I get why scrotes want hard-man trophy dogs for protection or just because they're well 'ard innit. I get why the lady of the house might want a little waggy dog that's effectively a cat in all but name.

But I genuinely struggle to comprehend the thought process behind "well, what I'd really like is a little aggressive dog that yaps constantly and nips unprovoked at anything that moves, so we can't have it out in public without a muzzle." Horrible things. What's the attraction?


 
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[i]But I genuinely struggle to comprehend the thought process behind "well, what I'd really like is a little aggressive dog that yaps constantly and nips unprovoked at anything that moves, so we can't have it out in public without a muzzle." Horrible things. What's the attraction?[/i]

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Why do people want what appears to be a rabid rat as a companion?


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 12:11 pm
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Re: 'Yappy' breeds, they often seem to come in pairs too. That way they can wind each other up all day long so as to ensure that the yapping never ends! On the plus side, best burglar alarms going.


 
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I'm childish with a fishy face.


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 12:13 pm
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I'm surprised that the owner hasn't been round. A mark of the man?

A decent person would be around, with a bottle to talk, apologise and discuss.

This is cynical but I wonder when the Police turn up on his doorstep he either flatly denies it was his dog/him and you are lying or hes 'had the dog put down' and at somepoint in the future you may see a visitor pop round with a very similar animal with the explanation 'they were cousins/in the same litter' bollocks. Me a cynic?


 
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I'm surprised that the owner hasn't been round. A mark of the man?

Somehow I didn't really expect him to come round, I just don't really expect people to do the right thing these days, it's always a nice surprise when people do actually do the honourable thing.

When I was knocked off my bike on a roundabout (my priority, lights, Hi-Vis jacket blah blah blah) , the driver who witnessed the incident drove off explaining 'Sorry, late for the cinema!'...some people just seem to have have warped priorities these days

I've kept the jacket, so maybe they'll send some sort of canine CSI team round (glamorous, clad in Armani, driving a Hummer) 🙂


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 12:25 pm
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Not that I want to see a dog put down but I think talk to RSPCA or someone similar for advice. A coat is replaceable but as you've pointed out if it were a kids face that could potentially have a major impact on a person life.


 
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A decent person would be around, with a bottle to talk, apologise and discuss.

I don't know how I'm going to break this to you mate..... are you sitting down? If not, you better had. Have you got a cup of tea? Maybe you might need something a bit stronger.

Right. Here goes. I'm sorry it has to be me to break this to you. And there's no way to sugar coat this..... some people aren't very nice


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 12:34 pm
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There are decent people out there. Saying that we are talking about someone who clearly needs a Rottweiler.


 
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No police action?

Mr T
Monster T's


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 12:39 pm
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And there's no way to sugar coat this..... some people aren't very nice

Binners... you're so mean....


 
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He knows this anyway. For a start, I'm a right ****! I give him an almighty wedgie, then steal his dinner money every time I see him. I guess he just thinks I'm being playful


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 12:44 pm
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Theres a lovely old Corporation Park near us (a lovely park where BBC/Ceebeebies) film children's programmes and my son's nursery visit for walks. Anyway there have been numerous cases of large dogs attacking other dogs.

One particular one involved a large American Bull Mastiff? that attacked a small dog- punctured its throat. The owner said **** off and left. A few months past and he started turning up again bold as brass with his dog.

It came close to my dog and I asked the owners wife to take it away before something happened to it, her reply was 'get over yourself dickhead'.

Again it/they disappeared for a while. Turns out it'd attacked a Jack Russell. Talking to other dog owners (who all know about it), he/she just saunter across/along the path - with no indication of 'be careful with your dog'- as though they are doing it for kicks.

Some people have really really thick skins and thicker necks. Maybe one day it'd turn in their own home. Shudder that thought though because I doubt it'd attack its owner.


 
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As an aside,

Generally speaking, why do people own these things? And by choice too?

God knows, we've been asking that every time they talk about him! 😆

They knew in advance that he had 'issues' - he'd been kept in a small house without enough exercise, and his previous owners had tried to stop his barking with a shock collar. The rescue home thought that my in-laws might be a good fit as they have a huge garden, lots of terrier experience and lots of time, so they're trying to make him into a nice dog. Not sure how much success they're having!


 
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it's because they've got "character" and "personality" and "vim"* and "pep"*.

*no idea what this means


 
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OP you should report it, but if the owner is a ne'er-do-well you might be in for abuse, vandalism, arson, assault, who knows. It's a tough call and I wouldn't blame you for doing nothing.


 
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[i]rotties make great family dogs, and with kind owners are very loyal friendly breeds. dogs will take on personality of the owner, if they're a tool so the dog will be. don't descend into daily mail stereotypes about evil dogs.[/i]

Whilst not wanting to fall into a daily mail sterotypes, stereotyping dogs seems pretty sensible, as after all the dogs have been selectively bred over many generations to have stereotypical traits.
So Rotties have been bred to be strong, fearless protectors of families and livestock, and in the case of livestock have to have the ability to work independently.
A lot of these traits would seem to make them great family pets, but also a liability when out in the big wide world, where they can easily decide that it's within their remit to decide what is an isn't a threat to the family. Now of-course a good strong owner can no-doubt stop this, but of course no one-else can no in advance what the owner is like.
For this reason personally I don't trust em as far as I can throw em.


 
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Double post 🙂


 
Posted : 10/04/2012 2:07 pm
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I don't trust any dog that can overcome a human in any situation.

Any that can should be kept as work animals, NOT as pets.


 
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Is that just dogs? What about cows? Or heffalumps?


 
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Theres a lovely old [s]Corporation Park[/s] [b]dog toilet[/b] near us

FIFY

I can never understand why we as a society allow public open space used for human recreation (parks, playing fields etc) to be used as a dog toilet

people drive in from miles around to my local park to "toilet" their dog, WTF! do it somewhere else and let my kids enjoy the open space without fear of being approached by uncontrolled dogs or stepping in dog sh1t


 
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Depends. If you try making love to it. Being from Ramsbottom I imagine you've all taken turns on the neighbourhood heifer.


 
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rotties make great family dogs, and with kind owners are very loyal friendly breeds. dogs will take on personality of the owner, if they're a tool so the dog will be. don't descend into daily mail stereotypes about evil dogs.

This is fact.

So it must follow you and the tool that is his owner have some issues between you that you're maybe not telling us about. I refuse to believe the dog up and randomly had a go at you without some form of provocation.

I understand you have to report it, even if you stood there abusing the bastard and were about to strike him, which I don't think for one moment you were, but the dog obviously picked up on something, it's usually fear, since fear is what is present at the start of an attack.

You need to admit you filled you pants and the dog picked up on it so went in for an early victory...

Then report it.

And beg forgiveness of the wildfowl society.


 
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OP stated he wasn't afraid of the dog and it attacked him, why can't that be the case, dogs like this are just to risky and should not be given the chance of seriously hurting anybody else, even if it does get muzzled a massive dog like a Rottweiler could scare a child or adult for that matter and make them afraid of dogs forever. Dogs like this need to be dealt with along with their owners.


 
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The owner is obviously an idiot. Friend of mine has a Rottweiler, she is a lovely dog. Very soft!

Report him.


 
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You were lucky to get away with just bruises.
I´ve had a couple of rottweilers and I´ve seen them easily bite through bone.
They´re powerful dogs and untrained it´s like walking round with a loaded gun.

Your neighbour obviously shouldn´t be permitted to have one if he isn´t bothered to put the time needed into training and control.


 
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This is fact.

So it must follow you and the tool that is his owner have some issues between you that you're maybe not telling us about. I refuse to believe the dog up and randomly had a go at you without some form of provocation.

Aye, because the dog couldn't possible be an overbred vanity/intimidation object being dragged around by an equally well bred human.

[i]"Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles, from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it." [/i]John Bryant, Fettered Kingdoms.


 
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Go and see the bloke

firstly because of the jacket

but also tell him that, whereas you should report the dog, you will not make a report if he agrees to always muzzle the dog in public from now on.

Then you can get away without reporting it and not have to fear retaliation...


 
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