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You are not born fat. You might be born gay.
You choose to eat more than necessary. No one forces you to eat more than you need.
Tell me if I’m wrong.
Or born ignorant. And yes, you are still wrong.
I'm not sure how my nephew's school enforce it. They must have some mechanism...
I actually think BMI is an excellent way to measure under/normal/overweight-ness. Because most people complain about it. Because most people are overweight. It is just our perception of normal that has been skewed. I'm at 25.5, which is just into the overweight category. And if I look at myself in the mirror objectively, I am carrying a little extra fat on me. I do have pretty good leg muscle mass from cycling, but I could lose a little blubber. But most people would think I look in good shape compared to your average guy in the street:
My main issue with BMI is that it does not account for gender. A woman at BMI of 24.9 will be carrying a lot more fat than a man at 25.1, but she is normal, he is overweight. Likewise, a man near the bottom of the ranking for "normal" would probably be considered underweight.
Schools cant do what parents havent and exercise is not the answer designing a country where people have to move more and not rely on cars is the fist step.
anagallis_arvensis - you're in education aren't you? Are cookery lessons on the timetable these days or how does it work? Are kids allowed to cycle to school or are there restrictions?
The barrier to so many improvements is the lack of will from Governments of whatever persuasion, unless there's some kind of monetary incentive it will be ignored.
The failure by Governments to look at the big picture, look beyond their 4 year tenure and to see how much money all this is costing the country is frankly a criminal matter yet they're not being held to account. I'll stop there with my rantette!!
It’s pretty shit for taking muscle mass in to account though and is roundly considered a crap way of judging weight. I’ve made some serious gains last year in regards to losing inches from my waist (where the majority of the fat was) and gaining inches elsewhere. My weight has remained pretty much the same though at around 12st 4lb. BMI would be the same.
BMI was designed as a population level measure - and so caution needs to be applied with individuals.
However, recently it's become clearer that BMI underestimates levels of unhealthy excess fat (esp visceral fat and around belly/waist) as better measurements of body composition become available and even through simple waist measurement. Simply put there are a lot of men with skinny arms and legs from sedentary lifestyle but with dangerous excess fat around waist, belly, torso generally who may not have an overweight or obese BMI. People of that type are more common than the rugby player types much quoted when people criticise BMI
Personally, I think BMI is a very good indication for population. For individuals it is one simple way that may indicate a problem but worth linking it too other measures such as waist measurement (not trouser size which is usually 2+ inches smaller for most men). Body composition can be useful as well but much more difficult to do accurately. To be honest - taking your top off and having an honest look in the mirror isn't a bad start.
Alpin.... I surmise that you are in fact 12 years old so this forum is no place for a child like yourself to make what I consider to be stupid and incendiary comments. Go away.
Personally, I think BMI is a very good indication for population.
Agree. It is not perfect and they are some use cases where it should be used with caution but the healthy range is fairly wide and in my opinion a good range for 99% of people. I have just tipped onto 25 and although I am in good shape (muscular arms, legs etc,.), like yourguitarhero I can see I am carrying excess fat. The excess fat is not causing any issues but I would prefer it not to be there.
I need to lose around 3-4kg to get rid of that fat and that is what I am doing over the next 3 months.
@ donk.... No. I'm still here.
I agree that for the general population BMI is a good measure of health. Obviously there will be a smaller number of people for whom it is not a good indicator of their health. Much the same that for a small minority hormones or type 1 diabetes may be a major factor in their weight.
British Society of Lifestyle Medicine:
In particular BSLM recognises the primacy of science, and promotes the adoption of practical tools in management of the wider determinants of lifestyle related disease. BSLM does not adhere to any single approach to nutrition, and encourages a range of dietary approaches that are supported by appropriate scientific evidence. It has no religious affiliations and no political affiliations.
The population would very much benefit if at least one clinician, public health professional or health practitioner in every town underwent training and became qualified. This would surely reduce the burden on GPs, health visitors, hospital consultants etc.
Been living in France for the past 18 months and was over in the UK at Christmas and we went for a meal at the Harvester.
We couldn't finish the main meal. Plate was massive.