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It'll still be Australia's first innings by the time I get there on day 4 at this rate...
Stokes finally gets his maiden test wicket. And Clarke is finally gone...
And MJ also...
Declare for 550?
Siddle...
EDIT: Mike, I'd be bloody annoyed if it got to 550 now!
Trying to work out when to leave the tv and have an afternoon beer... Going to get a few comments on the score
It's just not happening for Swanny 🙁
Or anyone really time for tea
Finally!
570/9d FFS
Oh dear.
Johnson looks unplayable
****ing lost this for sure!
FFS. So that's what happens when you drop catches.
Catches win matches, drop them at your peril...
But WTF was Cook doing?
I think Joe root needs another dinner partner tonight.
I think Joe root needs another dinner partner tonight.
Bloody Carberry had two lives there. Would have deserved to be run out for not being awake, then should have been out LBW but wasn't given.
Not being awake? If he'd been in shorts and running spikes that was still a tight one, and I'm pretty sure it was among the last thing he expected with 2 balls left in the day.
Not being awake?
He was leaning on his bat watching the ball. He should have already been on his way when the call came.
He should have expected it. The object of the game is to score runs. He's an opening batsman, not a tail-end bunny who needed sheltering.
listened till the out on th eno ball then it was obvious what was going to happen
Aussie were precarious for a while but they turned it round
England need to bat and under pressure
i doubt anyone has much faith in that happening
They cannot win this match from here anyway that much is certain
They cannot win this match from here anyway that much is certain
Well, they can. But they need to bat and bowl like they did last time they were here.
Even that won't produce a favourable result on this pitch. What they need to do now is bat for two days and take the edge of Mitchell Johnson's confidence. Can't see that happening either, but hey ho.
But WTF was Cook doing?
Harsh, to say the least
Johnson bowled him with a 93MPH ball, that moved from middle to off. I'd say that was as unplayable a ball as you're likely to see.
If he'd been in shorts and running spikes that was still a tight one
He went, hesitated then went again. If he hadn't of hesitated he would have been in by a mile.
Harsh, to say the least
His earlier gropings and flashings prior to that ball don't exactly lead me to conclude that it was solely Johnson.
He also knows how fast Johnson bowls, and is one of the best opening batsmen in the world. I don't doubt that it was a good ball, but it certainly wasn't unplayable by a player of that calibre. And he did seem to lose the will to bother in the field.
His earlier gropings and flashings prior to that ball
oh, no doubt, some very half hearted wafting going on, and it was only a matter of time, but I thought that ball was an absolute peach.
Draw should be possible but really it looks like win for Australia. Can't see England coming back from 2-0 down. Maybe time to drop Swann for Month especially given the number of right handers in the Australia team.
This threads gone awfy quiet. The casual observer might believe the English only sing when they're winning.
Which has been on a regular basis in recent years. You need a break now and again.
Confidently predicting two hundreds tomorrow. There, I've gone and done it now 😕
Think Swan was calling it quits after this tour anyway?
stevenmenmuir - Member
This threads gone awfy quiet. The casual observer might believe the English only sing when they're winning.
Just that the cricket has finished for the day, I escaped to the LBS/pub to listen to the evening session, not really worth it. Going to be the day we see if England are in this series today.
I haven't seen Cook's dismissal yet, so perhaps too early to comment but the picture I have seen has his back foot in front of his front foot, but still only just on the crease. Tends to suggest he got squared up by a ball that moved from leg to off. Probably a good'un, but Cook is a good enough (and analytical enough) player to realise that he probably ought to be taking guard on middle and off to Johnson and looking to get a stride in. Sometimes you have to do all you can to load the odds in your favour. He is a good enough player to be able to rock back if necessary.
Anderson is a little over quick medium these days, so the comparison is not entirely valid, but the way Rogers played him and Broad was an example. He was punch-driving waist high balls on the front foot. Not something you can do on a quick wicket. This would have made Johnson have to think a bit more, but he does have a very decent slower off cutter if memory serves, so perhaps he could have used that on Cook if he had been 'coming at him'.
Anyway, England need to play proper bloody test cricket for a day and a half. Daft shots completely in the locker and any run outs should be a capital offence. You should never, ever be run out in a test match unless you are in a last ditch run chase, or looking to score quick runs to declare! You have to make the opposition TAKE your wicket at all costs.
Wonder if England can bat for three days (probably using both innings) - 3 days in the field could tire the Aussie's out a bit, especially Harris and Clarke who are about as strong as Aussie lager, hopefully put them out the next match. Next test follows straight after.......clutching at straws I think unless KP knocks in a quick double ton!
Personally I think we've done a great job of lulling them into a false sense of security. Root and Bell to hit double centuries, declare on 900 then Monty and Swanny to clean them up for less than 300. Easy 🙂
We've got a plan!
I've not seen/heard much of the cricket what with it being on overnight, which is why I'm not saying much. It's not looking great but things can change quickly in cricket. We'll be lucky to save this game I suspect.
Win some tosses and hang on to some catches and things could look very different.
Nope, I was wrong. Cook should have been forward, simple as. Before anyone says that it is difficult to get forward to someone bowling 90+, Cook is an accomplished test opener and the wicket is slow. He should have been forward.
I'm now worried. This is starting to look (god forbid) like an England tour of Australia in the mid 90s. Losing players to injury/other things. Dropping sitters. Taking wickets with no balls. Taking daft singles in the last over. Seeing open contempt for teammates in the field (Panesar), especially Anderson, who is quite a nasty piece of work when things aren't going his way.
Time for Mr Flower and his huge support staff to earn their corn. England have to remember, they are playing an Australian test side that has Shane Watson batting at three and includes Steve Smith. Neither of them would have got to clean boots in any Australian side from 1989 to 2003.
Please, please, please. This cannot degenerate into a mid 90s style farce. I really cannot 'go there' again. 🙁
Any lower a run rate and it would be negative.
FFS Root
Channel 9 commentators really are clueless. Vaughn and the fat one were convinced that KP hit that.
At least he has improved the run rate - TMS only though no tv
Personally I think we've done a great job of lulling them into a false sense of security. [s]Root[/s] Carberry and Bell to hit double centuries, declare on 900 then Monty and Swanny to clean them up for less than 300. Easy
Root! Come on man, so much better than that. Just before it is bowled he eyes the boundary up.
KP
you
Doughnut
What was that Kevin?
I'm off to bed.
That's even more brainless, premeditated with 2 blokes posted there.
FFS KP! 🙁
On TMS, Geoffrey Boycott suggested Joe Root should hang himself. At the risk of hand-wringing - not really a very sensible thing to say.
Yep. KP. Stupid.
Exactly as yesterday. Nobody is losing their wickets, Australian or English, they are throwing them away.
KP never fails to deliver failing to deliver and he is in good company.
All out for less than Clarke and Hadins partnership
Well in Carbs. Decent strike rate too given the situation. Just need Belly to replicate his form of this summer and me might just have a chance of saving Test.
Hundredup
**** it. Carbs out. Debut boy in then out-of-sorts Prior. Eng all out for less than 275 and going 2-0 down 🙁
Erm.
Someone stay in for a bit, please.
Personally I think we've done a great job of lulling them into a false sense of security. [s]Root Carberry[/s] Monty and Bell to hit double centuries, declare on 900 then Monty and Swanny to clean them up for less than 300. Easy
It's OK, it's lunch now. They can't lose a wicket for a while.
Yep it seems like they survived the sandwiches now back to the business of constructing a batting collapse.
Looks like Cook will be batting this afternoon
This is truly quite depressing
Monty monty give us a wave...
0345. Thought I'd just have a quick look on TMS.
The Australian's are going to be insufferable.
Triple wicket maiden?
WTF?
Just catching up on the As it happened text.
I've read enough. Back to bed for me. Night night.
At least Bell's standing up
Pathetically poor England.
He bowls to the left, he bowls to the right, Mitchell Johnson's bowling is Sh...
Oh, hang on...
Is it tomorrow your off down there Zokes? I reckon Clark just did you a favour by not enforcing the follow on, you might at least see a session of Cricket. No chance of a downpour?
Yeah, I wish he'd not tbh. I could have had a refund on the tickets and gone on the wife's xmas booze cruise round the Barossa valley.
never say never, still a few hours to go
Just woke up. Bloody hell 😕
What a pack of shite. Why did they even bother turning up?
If it wasn't for the fact that I'm typing this on a smartphone I'd think that I woke up having time traveled back 20 years 😐
what a waste of plane tickets.
for the squad I mean, not the fans...
martinhutch - Member
What a pack of shite. Why did they even bother turning up?
With the exception of Bell, Pansar and Carberry nobody did turn up with the bat. Just like Brisbane with a killer 20 mins.
What we don't have is a Mitchell Johnson, we could do with one just to hide some shoddy batting.
Jeez. Cricket's an odd one, a team game that's made up of a series of one on one battles. And when a player hits their straps, they can win games on their own, particularly if it's a bowler. Which is what johnson's done this time and last. Trouble is, that like in the past with warne, when there's a guy in that form at one end, the other assumes a menace that it shouldn't really have.
We've got to find a counter attack to Johnson, he's a confidence player and still a bit fragile; might be that for cook and carberry to get in and blunt him might even make the difference. But with the waca up next...... I think it's goodnight ashes, tbh.
We've got to find a counter attack to Johnson,
We have several:
Proven: Cook, Pieterson, Bell, Prior
Promising: Root, Carberry
The trouble is, Bell and Carberry excepted, none of them seem to realise this
I'm not surprised Clarke opted to bat again. Give his bowlers a rest, as it is a good batting strip and get an unattainable lead with two days to knock over a very fragile England.
Did anyone put money down on a 3-0 Aussie win? They're going to destroy us at Perth...
I wonder if they can field 10 fast bowlers for Perth, they can't bat any worse.....
Jesus.
Hats off to Mitchell Johnson for another display of proper intimidating fast bowling on a flat pitch, but also some woefully poor batting from England.
He's not actually an amazing bowler just quick, but England are soft in the head (apart from Bell/Carberry) and I doubt mentally they can come back from this plus they end up bowling a lot with no rest as they don't bat for very long.
It's like being back in the Atherton days, soon cook will be rolling his eyes and looking skywards for rain while shuffling another un imaginative field placing and preying for the runs to stop.
If australia played SA tomorrow they would be made to look ordinary they lack quality right through the team, England are gifting them the series on a plate.
I'm not giving the rest of the series any more attention until they start playing like we know they can as they are better than that, I don't mind them losing, I just want to see a bit of fight, less mental capitulation and not innings or 300 run defeats to a mediocre australia.
At least the Aussies put up a flight in England. It's as if England want to lose quickly so they can enjoy a holiday.
I'll just pop in quickly (before heading off to bed) to mention these quite amazing figures:
[u][b]5-12 off 18 balls, in the space of about 20 minutes...[/b][/u]
What a truly fantastic spell of Test match bowling, it's excellence only exceeded by the feebleness of the batsman facing it! 😆 8)
Damn shame MJ didn't convert one of the hatrick chances, but you can't have everything eh?
Now, just imagine if we had Pat Cummins (or James Pattinson) fit and in this side as well, scary thought for you Poms eh? 😀
[i]"You are the Army, the Barmy Army
You still sing when - you are losing
So when we are winning - its confusing
Why you are singing, when you are losing"[/i]
He aims for your head,
He aims for the stumps,
He's Mitchell Johnson,
My god, what a ****.
Now, just imagine if we had Pat Cummins (or James Pattinson) fit and in this side as well, scary thought for you Poms eh?
Scarier if you're fielding at second slip, I'd have thought...
Why you are singing, when you are losing
Because, having had almost as much practice as you at losing, we've become rather more dignified than you bogans. 😉
Fairplay psychle, you've taken some stick on here and it's definitely your turn to dish some out now!
"You are the Army, the Barmy Army
You still sing when - you are losing
So when we are winning - its confusing
Why you are singing, when you are losing"
It's hard for fair weather Aussie cricket 'fans' to understand. 😉
If/when we lose this test, then the ashes and the series in Perth you can expect us to sing louder, for longer and cavort around like maniacs.
It's a English ting. An indomitable, irreverent and self effacing spirit born from our climate, our history and our humour.
Bit complex for you lot I suppose. 😀
to the" Dads Army tune"
who do you think you are kidding Mitchell Johnson
if you think old Englands done
we are the boys who inflicted all your pain
soon your be bowling left and right again
so who do you think you are kidding Mitchell Johnson
if you think old Englands done
Let's see if I can sing that loud enough today to inspire a couple of English hundreds...