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SO two more larger retailers are due to merge , talks in progress, probably a lot of store closures and distribution depot closures , as they integrate, but lots of work for rebranding companies and sign makers.
That's the Sainsburys in Keighley gone then. Normally empty while the Asda next door is rammed. Not really their target market, to be fair.
As long as there's no threat to Asda own brand carbonara sauce, it'll be fine. Sainsburys have failed me once too often by stopping selling reblochon cheese and gluten free pork pies
What will they call it?
AsBurys
SainDa
??
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ASDABURYS
The radio report I heard was that both brands would remain
ASBO-rys
just realised "ASDABURYS" would be a good name for their funeral director brand
SO two more larger retailers are due to merge
No they aren't. They're in talks. Might or might not happen.
Asbo’s
WalBurys
SainMart
WalSain
SainWalm
Who cares?
Orange and Green should never be seen.
Orange and Green should never be seen.
Well that's the NI peace process ****ed then.
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It'll be Sainsburys in the South and Asda in the North. That's the general split at present anyway.
Waitrose and Iceland to merge.........................Bikebouy goes into meltdown.
'Assberrys' gets my vote
Middle class, village green England won't quite know how to cope with this ....
How would this work with Asda being a wholly owned subsidiary of Walmart? Would it not, in reality just mean that Walmart are buying Sainsburys?
No, Sainsbury’s are buying the Asda arm of Walmart apparently.
So Walmart flogging off Asda. Seems surprising.
So Walmart flogging off Asda. Seems surprising.
It still seems a bit confused about what is happening. That said apparently Asda aint been doing so well so perhaps Walmart may be willing to cut their losses and concentrate on their anti-Amazon online campaign in the US.
2 wholly different brands and images so the idea that it's acquisition to help with back end costs and logistics makes sense. Merging the brands would end up costing both brands customers.
I don't get in from Sainsbury's point of view. Asda is at the lower end of the marker which has been invaded by Aldi and Lidl, they generally have huge superstores which are no longer relevant to how many people shop.
lidl/aldi dont have delivery vans.
ocadog/waitrose/morrisons are the same
So will it make a big difference to yer average asda sainsbury worker?
I don’t get in from Sainsbury’s point of view.
If they keep the two separate brands (keeping customer base the same) but share procurement, distribution and support services (HR, Financial, Commercial teams etc) then they can cut costs whilst their combined marketshare can challenge Tesco at the top.
I can only assume that Sainsbury’s wants more profit which doesn’t surprise me as their number one goal is money. They would have to keep the two companies separate given the price differences between the two. There would still be Asda and Sainsbury’s shops plus a mix of products I’d imagine.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29655383
Another example of having 2 operations facing the customer but starting to share back end.
I can only assume that Sainsbury’s wants more profit which doesn’t surprise me as their number one goal is money.
It's kind of how business works, these guys are pushing efficiency through all of their operations, there comes a point where you can't get more from a resource but it's not fully utilised. This should help them to do that.
It’s kind of how business works
If they could turn the heating and lights off they would and still expect you to work like normal. They put profit above everything else
If they could turn the heating and lights off they would and still expect you to work like normal.
One of the NZ supermarkets put smart lighting in their DC's zoned so it only lit up when you were in that area, savings in 6 figures per year. Somebody commented that it was great for the lighting sellers (who I was visiting) they were happy to get the job but pointed out the next gen of DC's wouldn't have lights - the operators asked how they would pick goods - missed the fact they wouldn't be in there in 5 years.
In reality this comes to a question about how we want society to be in the future, employment will have a different meaning as the giving people jobs in a some sectors now is going to be a charity act in a few years time. How as a society we look forward and solve this problem is a huge task.
As long as they still sell Lincolnshire Poacher cheese in Sainsbury’s I don't mind (never been to an Asda so maybe they sell it too?)
I wonder if this will draw a bid by Amazon for Sainsburys. I heard a rumour they were sniffing around them and Morrisons.
Our local tesco the heating air con goes off about 18.00 hrs and the lights go to half lights at 20.00 every day, and one of the managers nationaly worked out how much power leaving a conveybelt running costs, so thats why its stopped between customers to save energy, well done to them on that point
Amazon were sniffing around Booths last year, which has a mere 28 supermarkets in the north, but they were looking on it as an ‘in’ to the market.
They obviously see the U.K. supermarket business as their next step to take over the world. They’ve made no secret of their intention to make a move into the market
ocadog/waitrose/morrisons are the same
the same in what way ?
Much like Tesco buying booker, it'll give both brands additional buying power. It'll make it harder for me as an independent retailer to compete with prices.
It’ll make it harder for me as an independent retailer to compete with prices.
I'd have thought that ship had sailed a long time back? For anything that isn't packaged where you have quality to work with you are down to convenience.
My shop is rural with little competition, but supermarkets are the main rivals. People get stuck I'm the cycle of traveling further to their local "I'll go the the local tesco/sainsbury/ASDA etc." even if it's for a small spend rather than a shorter trip (often a walk) to their local shop. I was the same before owning the shop.
When I can compete on price I try too, but margins are now ridiculously tight - its gone from 20<25% to 15% at best on many items. This is all post Brexit vote. Where I can't compete is on the lost leader items , that's items the supermarkets take a loss on to get customers through the door - usually the 50% off or BOGOF items.
With another large retailer taking an even larger market share all of this will just mean ill need to compete in different ways that the supermarkets can't.

Set to lower their prices 10%, still won't be as good as Lidls though 🙂
still won’t be as good as Lidls though
But they will offer more choice and a different proposition to Aldi/Lidil and you will be able to buy the majority of the stuff every week. What it may do is shake the tesco dominance of the market which could be more interesting.
I wonder if this will draw a bid by Amazon for Sainsburys. I heard a rumour they were sniffing around them and Morrisons.
Amazon already has a deal with Morrisons for their quick delivery stuff. They also have delivery lockers in their stores. Since Morrisons has the experience through Ocado, I'd say it's only a matter of time.
While everyone wants cheap stuff instantly, this sort of merger is inevitable. We are the demanding customers who these businesses are competing to get in their doors.
The net result is business supplying the customer what it wants.
Meanwhile, all governments fail to deal with the fall out of low skilled jobs being automated. Which shouldn't be a bad thing, unless of course you have no skills. Sadly history shows us that technology will continue to lower the demand for no or low skilled labour and us as consumers will drive that in our demand for lower prices.
Anyone thinking of leaving school with no skills needs to have a chat with those about to lose their job to a robot.
It's a static market with slim margins so the only realistic option is to reduce operating costs through efficiencies of scale / procurement / logistics. The problem is we have an economy over-reliant on retail, propped-up by zero-hours workers subsidised by benefits that is a continual drag on productivity. If I were Amazon, I'd be waiting for the edifice to fall down and pick-up the pieces in a fire sale than paying inflated commercial property valuations.
And meanwhile there is a groundswell of public opinion that cheap food and low prices and decimating farming is morally abhorrent.
But they will offer more choice
They already do, so that won't change. But the prices aren't as good (nor the quality, particularly with Asda)
Set to lower their prices 10%
So who absorbs that cut? Them or their suppliers?
So who absorbs that cut? Them or their suppliers?
You have 1 person buying cheese not 2, you have one account with Heinz not 2, some of your distribution will be slim lined, lots of little savings along the way will account for some of it, then bigger accounts with the suppliers will mean a sharper price - like Tesco gets probably.
Anyone thinking of leaving school with no skills needs to have a chat with those about to lose their job to a robot.
Anyone whose job involves moving numbers around on a spreadsheet while sat at a desk needs to talk to them too.
Sainsbury had a dabble in the Lidl/Aldi end of the market with their limited relaunch collaboration with Netto a couple of years back. Seems like they've decided it's a good place to target, but changed the way they're doing it.
I’m not a food snob but I’d rather shop in Aldi or Lidl than Asda.
Miketually, I have people that move my spreadsheet numbers for me 🙂
Somebody is in the money...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-43956537/sainsbury-s-boss-coupe-caught-on-camera-singing
If our local, brand new town centre Sainsburys is anything to go by their business model is a mess. Seem to have managed to be the worst of all worlds, with an overpriced but limited product range and long checkout lines with very few tills open. Our Lidl and Aldi have smarter looking stores and shorter lines. I tend to walk through the Sainsburys on the way home from work and hit the yellow label aisle, and the amount of products that regularly appear in it would suggest they make poor buying decisions too.
Sainsburys are moving argos stores into asda now, as well as into sainsburys stores , another chain leaving the high street, more job loses etc, then there is the logistics side, a lot less lgvs required in different branding along with logistic fulfillment centres.
Sainsburys is a little closer to me than Morrisons, and there’s no Asda in town, but I always shop at Morrisons.
more job loses etc, then there is the logistics side, a lot less lgvs required in different branding along with logistic fulfillment centres.
The counter to that is there are more argos stored now than before sainsbury took them over.
Flip side of using your hgv fleets more efficiently is less traffic & less pollution which is a very good thing.
I’m not a food snob but I’d rather shop in Aldi or Lidl than Asda.
Asda food quality beats Tesco hands down.
The Germans beat them both, up there with Booths and Sainsbos and better at many things.
God knows how Tesco are so successful when they can't get basic foodstuffs right.