[Closed] As an Atheist.......

Ah-ha. Good point.

"elfin-as-puppet-master". Hmmmm...

a·the·ist
[ey-thee-ist]
- noun 1. person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings

ag·nos·tic
[ag-nos-tik]
- noun 1. person who believes that the existence of God is unknown and unknowable

Atheist is absolute. Dawkins invented a scale to dodge his logic fail.

you criticise religion because you feel followers want to assume superiority over others,

Actually no, I criticise religion because I feel that organised religion wants to assume superiority over its followers (and in some cases, over non-followers too). Apart from anything else, it's a pretty effective means of control.

Atheist is absolute. Dawkins invented a scale to dodge his logic fail.

Where do you stand on my skirting-board unicorns? Are you aunicornist or unignostic?

Unignostic. Very unlikely to the point of being improbable, but not impossible. I don't deal in absolutes. STW and infact the World would be a more pleasant place if more people thought the same, but so is life.

Atheist is absolute. Dawkins invented a scale to dodge his logic fail.

Sounds like you might want only to think in absolutes. I can assure you the good Professor doesn't.

Christopher Hitchens on the other hand.......

Actually no, I criticise religion because I feel that organised religion wants to assume superiority over its followers

Just out of interest, do youse any special sort of blade or owt for your hair-splitting hobby? 😉

But the thing is, you (and other atheists) come across as attempting to appear superior on here, so isn't that just a little teeny bit hypocritical?

Seriously. Can't you just get on with your own life, rather than worry what others are doing? I mean, do you have any sort of proof that you are in any way happier/healthier/more successful because you don't believe in God or follow a religion? Are you superior/better off in these respects than those who do?

I'm not a Christian, yet I love this painting:

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In fact it's one of me favouritist paintings ever. 😀

Live and let live. Judge not others lest ye be judged thissen...

Ooh, and one of me favourite choonz dat:

(Probbly best listened to on a 'proper' hi-fi with directional cables an ting so's you can really listen to the music propperly to get the full experience)

You're repetitions are showing, Fred. You need some new strings.

Ooh sorry Wopster; I mustuv missed the memo telling me I need to conform to your standards of expectation... 😳

Chill. Just enjoy stuffs, innit?

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And let Joy into your heart:

I love a lot of stuff that's associated with religion - the architecture of churches and temples, whether they're praising the Abrahamic god in England or Athena in Greece. I like stained glass windows and Islamic textiles. I like a lot of choiral music. I'm also rather fond of a lot of music done by bands that regularly proclaim their worship of Satan. I don't think you have to be a believer to enjoy art that's been created by someone who is, or who is inspired by religion.

This is stupid. Bedtime. In the morning this will all have dropped offthe back of the forum and someone will have posted inspiring pictures of UK summer riding, preferably in the mountains. If I believed in god, which I don't (99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999%), then I'd pray for it.
Play nice kids.

Where do you stand on my skirting-board unicorns?

I think you use them to ridicule people. You should stop, it's beneath you. 😐

Unignostic. Very unlikely to the point of being improbable, but not impossible.

So you accept the possibility that there might be unicorns in my skirting boards. Ok, cool. What was your view before I'd mentioned them?

Just out of interest, do youse any special sort of blade or owt for your hair-splitting hobby?

I'm not splitting hairs. It's a very, very important distinction.

But the thing is, you (and other atheists) come across as attempting to appear superior on here, so isn't that just a little teeny bit hypocritical?

I'm attempting no such thing, and I'm genuinely sorry if that's how I come across. Rest assured that any feelings of inferiority you may be experiencing are of your own devising.

Seriously. Can't you just get on with your own life, rather than worry what others are doing?

I thought I was. When it comes to what people I've never met on the Internet think or do, well, it registers fairly highly on my Notgivingatossometer. Doesn't mean I don't find it interesting to discuss, though. Clearly you find it interesting too, or we wouldn't be having this discussion.

do you have any sort of proof that you are in any way happier/healthier/more successful

Can't we just assume that I am until proved otherwise? I thought that was how religion generally worked. Let's say that I have faith that I'm better off.

I think you use them to ridicule people. You should stop, it's beneath you.

The intention isn't ridicule. If people feel ridiculous, perhaps they should ask why? The intention is just to try to flesh out people's views a little.

a·the·ist
[ey-thee-ist]
- noun 1 person who denies or [b]disbelieves[/b] the existence of a supreme being or beings

Emphasis mine. I do not believe in any sort of supreme being however I know that I cannot prove that one does not exist what with the existence of such being being non falsifiable. I personally class my position as atheist. There are doubtless those who disagree with that position.

Being an atheist isn't about hating all things related to religion, it just means you don't buy into the God movement. An interesting point to raise though. From the same stance, are we only allowed to appreciate the things within our brackets of interest? What a plain world it would be.

Sorry, I couldn't be bothered to read the argument. Atheists FTW. And religious people too....but I'll type it in lower case; ftw.

I'm attempting no such thing, and I'm genuinely sorry if that's how I come across. Rest assured that any feelings of inferiority you may be experiencing are of your own devising.

You're one of the most insincere people on here. Don't insult us by trying to pretend otherwise, please. It's cowardly.

So cougar, when you compare a central component of someones philosophy to a tiny horse with an overly bony forehead, do you frequently get much fleshing out?

So don't all these Atheists have any belief (clue,idea whatever) seriously you can't deal with all lives shit without having some logic as to what it's all about and why..

WtF do they do when facing potential imminent demise I wonder..

They don't reckon there were many Atheists in the trenches, or on planes that are about to crash..

I think it's another easy to do thing behind that little computer screen and keyboard and an anon ID..

...and atheists are the ones with issues?

Deary me...

Wunundred! 😀

It was divine intervention....

derekrides - Member
So don't all these Atheists have any belief (clue,idea whatever)

I have faith, just not in a god. Faith is not specific to religion.

seriously you can't deal with all lives shit without having some logic as to what it's all about and why..

Of course I can. Because I don't believe in god, doesn't mean that I don't have an aim or philosiphy in life.

WtF do they do when facing potential imminent demise I wonder..

Pretty much the same as a theist. Prepare to die. Just do it in a different way.

They don't reckon there were many Atheists in the trenches, or on planes that are about to crash..

Having been in this situation, I didn't convert my thinking on the existance of god. Mind you, that's me. I can't speak for anyone else.

I think it's another easy to do thing behind that little computer screen and keyboard and an anon ID..

Which is different from what you've just done.... how?

I'm not another leftist PC secularist, just asking questions of the pseudo disbelievers me, wondering how they cope..

derekrides - Member

I think it's another easy to do thing behind that little computer screen and keyboard and an anon ID..

What the... Hang on, you think we only dare to be atheists because we can't be easily [i]traced?[/i] 😆

derekrides - Member

So don't all these Atheists have any belief (clue,idea whatever) seriously you can't deal with all lives shit without having some logic as to what it's all about and why..

Why not?

Northwind - Member
derekrides - Member
I think it's another easy to do thing behind that little computer screen and keyboard and an anon ID..

What the... Hang on, you think we only dare to be atheists because we can't be easily traced?

Yep - bang on.

Lot of herd mentality on here and all.. ooh lets all be atheists and half of them no idea what they're on about.

Put em in a shitstorm watch em fill their pants and pray for all they're worth..

When I was lying in hospital, with no feeling in my leg, did I pray? Nope. When it came back, did I thank god? Nope.

So **** off with your patronising nonsense

Well said northwind. I do not need to believe in fairys at the bottom of my garden to have purpose and morals.

I have seen death many many times and nothing there leads me to believe in any gods.

seriously you can't deal with all lives shit without having without having some logic as to what it's all about and why..

Logic? - logic tells me there is no god. The belief in a god is irrational superstition. I do not need a belief in god to understand or make sense of the world - I know that sometimes it makes no sense - it just is

Cougar - Member

Unignostic. Very unlikely to the point of being improbable, but not impossible.

So you accept the possibility that there might be unicorns in my skirting boards. Ok, cool. What was your view before I'd mentioned them?

I had no viewpoint on them, just as we had no concept of many things before a hypothersis was forwarded. I can't investigate your skirting board, maybe you can help me out, but I'll assume very little proof can be found. I'll add them to the list of things that are extremely unlikely. Welcome to science.

So don't all these Atheists have any belief (clue,idea whatever) seriously you can't deal with all lives shit without having some logic as to what it's all about and why.

Yes you can. I don't know why people think there needs to be a why at all. We are just here - make of that what you will.

You're one of the most insincere people on here

1) You don't know the first thing about me.
2) Are you really having to resort to ad hominem? Wow.

So cougar, when you compare a central component of someones philosophy to a tiny horse with an overly bony forehead, do you frequently get much fleshing out?

Were we not getting somewhere with Fourbanger; it's actually a reasonable, consistent stance he's(?) got there.

just asking questions of the pseudo disbelievers

Why 'pseudo' exactly?

Lot of herd mentality on here and all..

As opposed to all the theists who become religious of their own accord.

you can't deal with all lives shit without having some logic as to what it's all about and why.

Speak for yourself. You seem to be under the impression that if something is beyond our understanding, there must be an easier explanation. I hate to break it to you but, sometimes there isn't an easier answer.

We've got thousands of very clever people trying to piece together all sorts of clues as to our existence, the Earth, the universe, and you're sitting there going "it's easy, god did it." I can see why it'd appeal.

I had no viewpoint on them, just as we had no concept of many things before a hypothersis was forwarded. I can't investigate your skirting board, maybe you can help me out, but I'll assume very little proof can be found. I'll add them to the list of things that are extremely unlikely. Welcome to science.

(-:

Well, science would look for them, perhaps, but would assume that they don't exist unless some sort of evidence could be found. There's no reason to think they'd be there, and up until me mentioning it you'd no reason to think they were there either.

Which, I think, highlights the difference quite nicely; it's certainly given me a better understanding of agnosticism. In the face of no evidence you'd go "well, it's unlikely but who knows," whereas I'd think "of course there aren't, I just made it up." Your stance is arguably more sensible, and one thing this little thought experiment has shown is why Dawkins claims his '6' rather than '7'.

From my point of view, the fact that I just made it up is sufficient for me to rule it out for all practical purposes. That's not to say I'm closed-minded about it though; if I suddenly started finding unicorn droppings round the edges of my carpet I might have cause to rethink.

Seriously. Can't you just get on with your own life, rather than worry what others are doing?

Because some people use instructions of their faith to dictate how others should live their lives. I have no problem with religion, people are free to believe what they want, but it should be a private affair.

Ah, shut yer bickering

Put em in a shitstorm watch em fill their pants and pray for all they're worth..

That may well be so (although not of "all", I suspect), the condition of being a human what it is, with all the weight of cultural indoctrination and the tendency of automatic responses kicking in as a reaction to danger (fight or flight) and so on.

Unfortunately, this scenario is not [i]actual evidence[/i] of the existence of a Big Magic Person Who Controls Everything, just a hypothesis about human behaviour. Sorry. No offense.

The Mahalia Jackson song is an interesting example of the flight from rationality enforced by religious myth.

The "Noah's Flood" story, if it were true, could not possibly have resulted in the world of flora and fauna that we can now observe around us.

So no, it didn't "rain".

[i]The Mahalia Jackson song is an interesting example of the flight from rationality enforced by religious myth[/i]

Is it? Gosh, it's just a voice that gives me goosebumps as far as I'm concerned. What the story's about I don't give a shit.

Because some people use instructions of their faith to dictate how others should live their lives. I have no problem with religion, people are free to believe what they want, but [b]it should be a[/b] private affair.

Oh teh ironing... 😆

Atheism's boring anyway. This thread proves it. 😀

Strange how you keep joining in on it, then.

Oh bum, I thought it was about music.

Elfinsafety - Member

"Because some people use instructions of their faith to dictate how others should live their lives. I have no problem with religion, people are free to believe what they want, but it should be a private affair."

Oh teh ironing...

Atheism's boring anyway. This thread proves it.

Why is that ironic?

It, is, Dezinald! 😀

Why is that ironic?

Bless. If you jolly well have not worked it out in a bit, I might come back and tell you.

Have fun!

Actually that's a bit unfair. Sorry, Fred.

Atheism itself, being based on a simple proposition, doesn't offer great opportunities in and of itself for discussion.

It's all the hysterically silly stuff that opposes it (just my view, no offense) that produces the interest.

The principle of the Atheist view is closely linked to the scientific principle (the primacy of evidence) which also finds itself in opposition to dogma and superstition.

Once these conditions are taken into the discussion, it does become interesting, IMHO.

For instance, a representative of the likely victors in the Tunisian elections are an "Islamic" party who say that they seek to take part in a society that represents the interests of (amongst others) "those of [i]no Faith[/i]".

This is the second mention of this group of people in a major election. The previous one was by Barack Obama in his acceptance speech at the Washington Capitol.

It would seem that the Atheist voice is now prominent enough to have a high level of recognition in this sphere, which is progress, I think.

Interesting.

Thangyouverymuch......

Were we not getting somewhere with Fourbanger

I have the feeling he's agnostic, so it's unlikely that god would be central to his philosophy 😉

I think we've had at least one theist on the thread. He seemed a bit angry 🙂 I think that one of the barriers to sensible discourse is all this unicorn/sky fairy/magic man/ father christmas stuff. How do you expect to get close enough to someones ideas to challenge them if they can see you're treating them with contempt?

S'a fair point RP.

And one reason why I can't be bothered engaging propperly in discussions of this type, as it's invariably about '[i]me me me I'm cleverer than you cos I don't believe in fairies[/i]' type crap. And serves as an outlet for people's prejudices rather than being an intelligent reasonable debate.

Love the 'religion causes war' type line that's often trotted out. Cos religion created the Atom Bomb, nerve gas and Agent Orange, yeah, right....

Lifer, I would, if I could actually be bothered.

Why is that ironic?

Bless. If you jolly well have not worked it out in a bit, I might come back and tell you.

Have fun!

I know why [i]you[/i] think it's ironic, but you're wrong, which makes your condescension more amusing.

Why don't you explain it to me?

Well it's A point.

Qualitatively however, there isn't any difference between claiming actuality on behalf of unicorns, fairies, god, outer-space teapots or any other unlikely fantasy.

I think THAT'S what really upsets those religious types who claim to be "offended" at the comparisons, what with this god supposed to be so big and powerful and amazing and so on...

No offense.

Dont worry Houns, you will be "forgiven"!!! 😉

Enjoy the music

From time to time, one comes across people of obvious intelligence who have managed to work out that religion is empty gibberish, but who still claim to believe in the existence of a nebulous Big Invisible Super Being Who Controls Everything.

Despite not believing in any specific description of such - Zeus, Wotan, Jehovah etc ( a form of Atheism).

This just shows how deep the termite of indoctrination can worm it's way into the psyche.

Tragic.

I love churches too, there's an old Saxon monastery on one of our routes north of Epping, I love stopping there for a couple of minutes, having a wee think to myself about all the lives lived there, is over 1000yrs old.

But this is amazing!

The Orion Nebula is one of the most scrutinized and photographed objects in the night sky, and is among the most intensely studied celestial features.[7] The nebula has revealed much about the process of how stars and planetary systems are formed from collapsing clouds of gas and dust. Astronomers have directly observed protoplanetary disks, brown dwarfs, intense and turbulent motions of the gas, and the photo-ionizing effects of massive nearby stars in the nebula. There are also supersonic "bullets" of gas piercing the dense hydrogen clouds of the Orion Nebula. Each bullet is ten times the diameter of Pluto's orbit and tipped with iron atoms glowing bright blue. They were probably formed one thousand years ago from an unknown violent event.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_Nebula

RichPenny - Member

Were we not getting somewhere with Fourbanger

I have the feeling he's agnostic, so it's unlikely that god would be central to his philosophy

I think we've had at least one theist on the thread. He seemed a bit angry I think that one of the barriers to sensible discourse is all this unicorn/sky fairy/magic man/ father christmas stuff. How do you expect to get close enough to someones ideas to challenge them if they can see you're treating them with contempt?

For the record, I don't personally believe in God or Gods. However, as someone with a scientific background and way of thinking I can't exclcusively rule out the existance of God or Gods. This, if I have to be catagorised, makes me an agnostic. I don't understand how you can claim to be Aethiest and claim that you just think it unlikely that god exists.

Did you miss the bit about tiny unicorns in Cougar's wall?

There are tiny unicorns in Cougar's wall!!! 😯

This could be earthshattering scientific news!!!

Indeed! 😆

"Tragic."
Really woppit? Isnt it equally tragic that everytime there's even a tenuous opportunity, the atheists on here,of whom there are many, jump straight in and patronise those who describe themselves as having some kind of faith? What's even sadder, if you can be bothered reading back through this thread, is that (as far as I can see) nobodys bothered to say theyre religious, so who / what are you arguing with?
And just for the record, I personally dont get offended with comparisons between God and unicorns / spaghetti monsters, etc. I get offended by being patronised. Unusual that, isnt it?

This just shows how deep the termite of indoctrination can worm it's way into the psyche.

Tragic.

Why are you so hateful towards other people's choices? Do they impinge on your daily life?

Do you abide by British Law and the way we are ruled ? Cos that's kind of like all tied up with religion and stuff..

Seriously Woppit; if you want to actually engage in a proper discussion, then drop the zealot schtick. it's tiresome.

I think some people call themselves atheists and shout about it a lot cos they think it makes them seem inertesting. 😆

Elf - I think it may be the right time to resurrect the church of our sacred lady of the golden hotpants. Ready to kneel and worship?

"those of no Faith".

I'm not sure that I'd class myself as having no faith. I have no religion. I'm not sure as it's the same thing.

Part of me thinks that it's a step forward that we're being acknowledged, part of me wonders if it's a loaded term and I should be offended.

I have the feeling he's agnostic, so it's unlikely that god would be central to his philosophy

Contrary to popular belief, "attacking religion" isn't mandatory when discussing theism. I thought it was interesting, and I learned something. YMMV.

Love the 'religion causes war' type line that's often trotted out.

Sorry, could you point out where someone (other than you) trotted that line out please? I can't find it.

There are tiny unicorns in Cougar's wall!!!

Actually, I think they might be mice. I've found mouse droppings. Shame.

Hello barnsley. Well, that's an argument we've thrashed to the point of exhaustion on a previous epic thread which, if memory serves, you ended up being incredibly upset to the point of trauma, so I think I'll pass, rather than re-awaken that particular experience for you.

I'm not arguing, sorry if it seems like that, just joining in on the general discussion with some opinions and thoughts of my own.

However, in regard to your question about the comparison level between the two types of tragedy (one of which I don't accept is such) - no.

All the best.

Elf - I think it may be the right time to resurrect the church of our sacred lady of the golden hotpants. Ready to kneel and worship?

I am ready, Brother Barnsely; I am ready....

I saw her [s]face[/s] bottom, now I'm a believer....

No I know it's objectification and sexits and that.

Forgive me, for I have sinned... 😳

the atheists on here,of whom there are many, jump straight in and patronise those who describe themselves as having some kind of faith?

That particular trait isn't unique to the non-beleivers amongst us. Look at the posts from derekrides for instance.

Sorry Elfin - I was busy typing and saw your post a bit late for immediate reply.

To take it point by point:

Why are you so hateful towards other people's choices?

I don't hate other people's choices. I'm not sure why you think that.

Do they impinge on your daily life?

Of course, don't they on everyone's? (Those being the background to all social interaction, as on this thread...)

Do you abide by British Law and the way we are ruled ?

Mostly.

Cos that's kind of like all tied up with religion and stuff..

I suppose it is. However, if I were required to meet the head of the Church of England, I would not be inclined to bow, for instance.

if you want to actually engage in a proper discussion, then drop the zealot schtick

I don't understand this, I'm simply discussing the issue from the Atheist point of view. How is that "zealotry"? I'm still open to being disproved by evidence, but as yet - alas...

I think some people call themselves atheists and shout about it a lot cos they think it makes them seem inertesting

I suppose there might be people like that, although I haven't met any yet.

To be honest woppit, I've got bigger things to worry about at the moment. Again, who are you arguing with? As I recall, the original poster asked whether he was hypocritical for enjoying gospel music (to which my response would be no, you're not, find beauty and enjoyment where you can), not does God exist - or did I miss that bit? And thanks for reminding me of the fact that I stupidly admitted to being upset by your comments in the past, but why continue dragging it out? Does it make you feel intellectually superior in some way?

What's this "British Law" of which you speak?

(sorry Elfin, I'll give you a 'splitting hairs' for that one 😀 )

Northwind - Member
When I was lying in hospital, with no feeling in my leg, did I pray? Nope. When it came back, did I thank god? Nope.

So **** off with your patronising nonsense

Ah so that means what exactly? There's no Mummy Northwind praying her son won't get better, or a Mrs Northwind not sticking pins in the duppy so she can be with her true love and be done with this Godless person she's ended up with.. Or kids praying their dad might get well again?

Comfy was it in the bed?

I can think of a few situations that might have you and your mate two on a bike called jerry both on your knees begging someone for it to stop..

So much BS so little time...

derekrides

That really is fairly offensive.

I can think of no circumstances under which I would prey - because I am a rational person.

derekrides, you need to edit that.

no need for that at all.

You know, people post going "oh, we're always being patronised and attacked by the atheists" and I worry, is that what we're doing? I don't intend to be, but maybe that's how it comes across.

Then along comes DerekRides, all full of piss and vinegar, and I think: even if we are being a little harsh, in the overall balance of things we're still in credit.

trailmonkey - Member
derekrides, you need to edit that.

no need for that at all.

Or because it ridicules through irony the Godless amongst y'all

Or because it was difficult for you to understand?

There.. have made it slightly less true 😉

Dear Barnsleymitch:

To be honest woppit, I've got bigger things to worry about at the moment.

O.K., then.

Again, who are you arguing with?

Not quite sure why you're asking me this. I answered it last time?

As I recall, the original poster

Yes, but the discussion has moved on since then. I suppose we could all return to it, though...

And thanks for reminding me

Sorry, my intention was to let you know that I'm sensitive to your feelings and did not want to place you in the same spot again. I don't think you were stupid - I thought it remarkably honest on a public forum.

It does not make me feel superior.

I'm going to be busy for an hour or so, so - all the best.

Why?
Because it is an opinion counter to the norm here?

No, because it's flippin' nasty and personally insulting.

Why?
Because it is an opinion counter to the norm here?

Or because it ridicules through irony the Godless amongst y'all

Or because it was difficult for you to understand?

none of the above. just against the forum rules.

hopefully a mod will be along to mop you up.

Does it not occur to you that some of these views are nasty and insulting to some of us that do actually hold a belief?

Oh No of course not

That's the total intransigence of the left.

It's your view, anyone who disagrees is racist, insulting, <insert host of other isms>

you don't know if i'm left, right or centre. you don't know if i'm a believer or not.

when you're in a hole, stop digging.

trailmonkey - Member

none of the above. just against the forum rules.

hopefully a mod will be along to mop you up.

Well lets hope he's a member of the institute of free speech then and the irony would be complete..

derekrides - sorry if I'm being a bit dense, but what's any of this got do with left or right wing politics? I'm proud to be considered left wing, and although I'll openly have a go if I think I'm being patronised, I fail to see what any of it has to do with politics.

derekrides - actually since getting a fair old telling off on here I hold back on my views about people with belief.

I will however quote a couple of christian tenets at you

And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

derekrides
Well lets hope he's a member of the institute of free speech then and the irony would be complete..

if you want free speech set up your own forum.

This is not a democracy or a bastion of free speech - it belongs to STW and they make the rules which includes being civil

And furthermore dereck, I find it a bit rich that you can rear up about religious intolerance, but find it perfectly acceptable to describe the parents of kids with learning disabilities as 'overly sensitive' (Ricky Gervais thread last week). Or again, am I being overly sensitive? Stil, why let common sense and consistency get in the way of a good troll, eh?

Generally Godlessness rides with the left, the more extreme left being Communism, since religion does prove a bit of a sticky point for a lot of what the left purport to stand for..

This last Government for example, the current leader of the libdems as Godless a philanderer as ever there was, hardly surprising 'they' don't stand by their word, why would they need to, there is no higher authority..

Wether you believe or not, there needs to be a higher authority to call these folk into account.

Personally I believe there is one, that's my opinion, I'm entitled to it, I was living and brought up in a society that also believed, my kids went to school which had queues of folk lining up to get their kids to go to precisely because it was a faith school.

So, why am I ranting like this on a monday morning?

You know what, I've no idea, think I'll leave for a bit..

Religion and Politics, they say never...

Apologies to all the affronted - I'm gone for a bit.

Well this has degenerated into a pretty nasty thread...

... but this I like:

I have faith, just not in a god. Faith is not specific to religion.

This is my category.

Godlessness rides with the left

This, on the other hand, is just silly. 😯