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How the hell did this film win awards and get such good ratings. One of the slowest, dullest film I have ever watched. 2 hours of my life that I won't get back. Psa - ignore the self indulgent critics and give it a miss.

 
Posted : 19/02/2017 11:03 pm
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Yup it's crap.

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/psa-arrival-new-film-out-1011

 
Posted : 19/02/2017 11:05 pm
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thought it was alright.

 
Posted : 19/02/2017 11:13 pm
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I liked it, not an action movie for sure. but the language/thought process angle was interesting.

 
Posted : 19/02/2017 11:14 pm
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I thought it was a fascinating premise and a poignant film.

 
Posted : 19/02/2017 11:26 pm
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Not enough of this in it for you?

 
Posted : 19/02/2017 11:30 pm
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No not that for me, it dragged on gave too much away of what the ending would be then seemed rushed toward the end with an almost. "Yeah that'll do and they all lived happy ever after."

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:08 am
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film is original and i like the fact it force a viewer to actually use brain.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:14 am
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Watched it tonight, liked it - more thought provoking than Convoy but not as many cool American trucks so therefore 7 out of 10 vs Convoys 9 out of 10.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:17 am
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Yeah that'll do and they all lived happy ever after."

Except they didn't. Did you actually watch it, or turn it off halfway through because there weren't enough colonial marines in it?

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:21 am
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Was really looking forward to this. Hoping it was gonna be another Interstellar... but no.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:24 am
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Hoping it was gonna be another Interstellar... but no.

No it wasn't that bad.

Except they didn't. Did you actually watch it, or turn it off halfway through because there weren't enough colonial marines in it?

I was poorly giving an example of how it closed badly rather than the actually ending.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:26 am
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Except they didn't. Did you actually watch it, or turn it off halfway through because there weren't enough colonial marines in it?
yeah, I think he watched a different movie to everyone else!

I thought it was excellent FWIW.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:26 am
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No it wasn't that bad.

What?

WHAT!?

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:29 am
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Put yer deaf aid in luv...he said "IT.. WAS'NT.. THAT.. BAD".

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:30 am
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Haven't seen it yet, but I will. 2 people I know have seen it & said it was good, so I'll make my own mind up.
Thanks for the heads up though.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:32 am
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The problem I think with both is that I seen pretty much straight away what was going on, I don't know how people didn't, I maybe I don't get fooled by the way they try to lead you away. Maybe it's the way my brain works that I can see the clues too easily. I then sit though hours of watching it all play out as I expected but with no entertainment as I've got nothing to make my brain work.

 
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The problem I think with both is that I seen pretty much straight away what was going on, I don't know how people didn't, I maybe I don't get fooled by the way they try to lead you away. Maybe it's the way my brain works that I can see the clues too easily. I then sit though hours of watching it all play out as I expected but with no entertainment as I've got nothing to make my brain work.
Sucks to be you..

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 2:53 am
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Now I'm wondering if Drac has the same "weapon" as Louise?

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 7:31 am
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😀

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 8:13 am
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Last night may have been the wrong time for me to watch it as I was still nursing an hangover.

I was not expecting an action film and avoid moves such as Independence Day but I found Arrival slow.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 8:17 am
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I really wanted to like this thread but ultimately found it extremely predictable. I could tell what the outcome would be be before I read it.

Needs more explosions and a plot twist, deeply boring, sad.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 8:34 am
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I loved it, well certainly the concept. My gripe was the acting, it was a bit wooden.

I'm waiting for it to come on Sky Movies, been searching for ages for it but sadly it's yet to appear.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 8:37 am
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I fell into a blissful sleep in the cinema, not waking until during the third quarter where I involuntarily snored/snorted loudly. Much laughter.

Can't remember much about it (the film) at all but it seemed OK in a slow, dark way.

 
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I watched The Secret Life of Pets during a 17-hour flight yesterday. I fell asleep almost immediately and woke up very confused as the film was finishing, so that's another one not to bother with.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 9:32 am
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I thought it was a very good film. On I would watch again.

Anyway - don't ask others, all you will get is there opinion. You need to go yourself and then form your own opinion.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 9:33 am
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you probably won't like Mr.Nobody either 🙂

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 10:25 am
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I really enjoyed it.. I found the pacing just right. I worked out most of the plot twists through the movie but that just helped draw me in. I found the whole thing extremely thought provoking and loved the soundtrack. The Max Richter track used is extremely beautiful and very cleverly chosen as it is a sort of palindrome, which fitted very well with the story telling.

yeah that'll do and they all lived happy ever after.

Err, except that exactly is what didn't happened. The whole point of the film is that it was asking the viewer would you make the same choices knowing where it would lead and you wouldn't live happily every after together.

It certainly struck a chord with me and made me think about my life mistakes.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 11:00 am
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I thought it was excellent.

I really don't know what's to dislike about it - other than perhaps the trailer made it look more like a traditional Aliens V Humans shoot 'em up?

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 11:33 am
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Err, except that exactly is what didn't happened. The whole point of the film is that it was asking the viewer would you make the same choices knowing where it would lead and you wouldn't live happily every after together.

I've answere that up there. ^^

I really don't know what's to dislike about it

Long drawn and dull story to get to the point that was seen at the start. Well for me at least.

I didn't expect pew pew and explosions.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 11:36 am
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I enjoyed it, even though I was hoping for a punchy kind of film

I saw the ending coming as soon as she said to speak to her dad about science but still enjoyed watching it play out.

A bit pretentious though, I can see why a lot of people didn't like it.

Made me want to give my kids a squeeze though. Which was nice.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 11:39 am
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I really enjoyed.

Films like this are what good sci-fi is all about. Properly though provoking.

I'll definitely watch it again.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 11:55 am
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"Yeah that'll do and they all lived happy ever after.

As traildog points out, it has exactly the opposite of a happy ending. How did you get to that conclusion? 😆

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:02 pm
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As traildog points out, it has exactly the opposite of a happy ending. How did you get to that conclusion?

As I've pointed out I've already answered that.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:17 pm
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You haven't really, you said why you didn't enjoy it, (fair enough, not arguing the point) I was just wondering how your take away from a film that hasn't got a happy ending was that they all lived happily ever after!

😆

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:24 pm
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I thought it was outstanding. Clever use of a narrative to trick the viewer into how they thought the timeline would pan out.

But this thread is pointless as you can't debate whether a film is good or bad really - just what you enjoy. So why would we even try to convince each other?

Villeneuve is an awesome director. His style is to very much mess with the viewers expectations within a scene, and play for suspense.

I'm not sure how anyone could figure the ending out from the beginning as there is not the info to tell you that the narrative is being played out against your expectations. The first proper clue is about 2/3s in.

Chances are if you didn't like this you probably prefer Transformers. 😉

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:31 pm
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Personally I love action movies but I thought this one was great in a different way.

In most movies "alien" just means "slightly strange but basically not something you'd be surprised to see in a documentary about insects",

This movie trys to deal with the fact that genuine aliens from a completely different culture might be (like the universe); "not just queerer than we suppose; but queerer than we can suppose" -J. B. S. Haldane.

So I thought it was a thoughtful movie with a brilliant female lead. The pacing was excellent, and even when I worked out what might be going on (suspected fairly early things wern't necessarily in chronological order) it made me want to watch it again with a new perspective rather than think it was a dumb idea because I'd worked out "something was going on".

P.S. It feels like it should be unnecessary to say this, but If you're watching a movie, theres probably _something_ going on, unless its a particularly bad movie.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 12:48 pm
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You haven't really, you said why you didn't enjoy it, (fair enough, not arguing the point) I was just wondering how your take away from a film that hasn't got a happy ending was that they all lived happily ever after!

No, I did it's in the thread.

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/arrival-sci-fi-movie#post-8299907

I'm not sure how anyone could figure the ending out from the beginning as there is not the info to tell you that the narrative is being played out against your expectations. The first proper clue is about 2/3s in.

You're not sure how you didn't.

It's when she started dreaming was one big clue, not sure how far in that was though.

 
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P.S. It feels like it should be unnecessary to say this, but If you're watching a movie, theres probably _something_ going on, unless its a particularly bad movie.

Apart from Lost In Translation, obvs. Which I loved as it goes.

 
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one thing that did puzzle me though(and I might be off here, went to see it at the cinema a while back, but I remember this being my thought leaving the pictures).

if all knowing, how come we need to wait till part 2 to see this space war in 3000 year time? 😆

 
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Requires an attention span longer than five minutes between expolosions...

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 1:01 pm
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I think we may be talking at cross purposes, hey ho

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 1:32 pm
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Don't worry you'll work it out at the end. 😀

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 1:34 pm
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Made by the same guy who is directing the new Bladerunner

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 1:54 pm
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I already did 😆

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 1:57 pm
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Damn how did you do that?

 
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Rone sed > Clever use of a narrative to trick the viewer into how they thought the timeline would pan out.

Avoiding spoilers:- the short story by Ted Chiang is written from a very specific narrative pov, the film follows the order of the short story but it doesn't work because the story is no longer being told to the same intended audience. The clue is in the title, the short story being named "Story of [u]your[/u] life", the film being renamed "OMG Aliens!".

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 2:07 pm
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I'd really like there to be a properly clever sci fi movie.
(edit, I'm aware of Stalker / Solaris / Hard to be a God etc)

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 2:09 pm
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It's when she started dreaming was one big clue, not sure how far in that was though.

[b]*SPOILER AHEAD*[/b]

Ah well then she starts 'dreaming' - (being able to see into the future) some way in at the same point she starts to understand the language. That's not nearly the beginning.

Funny I had a row with my GF on the way home who "figured it out" from the 'beginning' when I pointed out it was nearly 2/3s the way through.

I still lost the argument though 🙂

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 3:02 pm
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True but I said pretty much straight away, I couldn't recall exactly when as I was bored after I sussed it.

It wasn't for me that was all and I didn't fall for the tricks to try and move you away I spotted what they were doing.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 3:05 pm
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True but I said pretty much straight away, I couldn't recall exactly when as I was bored after I sussed it.

It wasn't for me that was all and I didn't fall for the tricks to try and move you away I spotted what they were doing.

[b]*SPOILER*[/b]

Fair enough. It's clear some folk did spot it coming even if it's against the narrative flow of the shots earlier in the film that make it look like her daughter was already dead.

 
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Funny I had a row with my GF on the way home who "figured it out" from the 'beginning' when I pointed out it was nearly 2/3s the way through.

I figured it out sometime in 2025, and also 1975.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 3:07 pm
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To be clear. I'm not Rone's girlfriend.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 3:10 pm
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To be clear. I'm not Rone's girlfriend.

Yet.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 3:12 pm
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Well Sky have just put it up for pre-order so shouldn't be long before it's on TV.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 3:43 pm
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Yet

No spoilers.

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 3:45 pm
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Thought Hawkeye would be more use to be honest.

 
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I thought the sequel was much better.

 
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True but I said pretty much straight away, I couldn't recall exactly when as I was bored after I sussed it.

You mean you figured out where it was possibly going, and it so happened that's where it did. The dreaming was well into the film, maybe mid way though. I think a lot of people came up with the idea that it was something about time but trying to "work it out" is not really the point of the film. For me, the film is asking the viewer the question, if you know the outcome - would you change anything.

Most films are pretty obvious where they are heading, it's more about the journey. I found Arrival beautifully shot, nicely paced and with a beautiful soundtrack and really enjoyed it. Obviously you didn't which is a shame for you, but I do feel you sort of missed the whole point.

 
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Is it out on iTunes/DVD as yet? I've been waiting ages but still no sign.

 
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Is it out on iTunes/DVD as yet? I've been waiting ages but still no sign.

Digital release is 6th March. I'll probably give it another whirl if it's on rental.

 
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So how did the OP see it recently?

 
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I actually loved it - made me quite emotional at the end... I have been delicate of late though*!

As someone who in my own personal life struggles with the uncertainty of my future it did make me think a lot about the concept of knowing what was going to happen and still going through very difficult times in order to experience the good.

*I don't think the hangover helped either

 
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So how did the OP see it recently?

Still showing in theaters or (shuuush) Kodi 8) .

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 6:49 pm
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To be clear. I'm not Rone's girlfriend

🙂

Will you fit a medium Czar and Flux if so you could be in?

 
Posted : 20/02/2017 7:07 pm
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This thread is why it's an interesting film as we're still talking about it. In my opinion.

The same can't be said about John **** 2.

 
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The problem I think with both is that I seen pretty much straight away what was going on, I don't know how people didn't, I maybe I don't get fooled by the way they try to lead you away. Maybe it's the way my brain works that I can see the clues too easily. I then sit though hours of watching it all play out as I expected but with no entertainment as I've got nothing to make my brain work.


I was gonna watch it but I knew [b]Drac[/b] was going to watch it. My brain works that way. I also could tell from the clues my brain got, he wouldn't like and therefore it would be boring and have no entertainment value. Cus as you all know, they always include all the give always and clues to the end in the plot and If you are clever and your brain works that way, you'd figure it out too.

 
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I just saw this and liked it. I found it haunting, especially with the music, like 'The Thin Red Line' & touched with melancholy.

 
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