[Closed] Armstrong demonstrates humility with latest tweet

I'm afraid this comments sums up the whole affair for me:

"hobmeier : let's face it: lance was the fastest! that he used illegal substances doesnt matter, because everyone else did as well! let's give the man also a nobel price in practical chemistry!"

Jimmy saville raised loads of money for charity did lots of good deeds, and has never been to court..... 😯

people who are known to have a hatred towards him but really apart from 'he did it' , they have no real evidence,

Read Hincappies testimony - he adores LA as you must know
Just more of the LA BS - why noit say he never failed a test - he did didnt he
As for no real evdicnce why wont LA let them test his stored blood after all it will clear him right 🙄
There is so much evidenc eeveryoine has banned him and strippe dhim of his victories and all his sponsors have left and litigous lover lance did not want to even fight it as he new some deluded fools would believe his witch hunt BS
I have better things to do that argue with someone as deluded as this- or if you prefer what is your view on the moon landings

You are either trolling or the most naive human being alive

When I saw that photo I actually pitied him.

rkk01 - Member

I'm struggling to see how he can even avoid a stretch in prison...

If i was him i'd be moving money off shore at a frantic pace and looking at which countries have non extradition agreements with the US....then poke two fingers up to everybody and live out my years in luxury.

That picture is great, Lance getting in the spirit of things and treating the situation with the contempt it deserves.

If i was him i'd be moving money off shore at a frantic pace and looking at which countries have non extradition agreements with the US....then poke two fingers up to everybody and live out my years in luxury.

That picture is great, Lance getting in the spirit of things and treating the situation with the contempt it deserves.

They were all at it. Lance might have got the most out of it from the wins, but they were all as bad as each other, including the UCI.

I don't have a wristband, but I support Cancer Research UK by DD every month.

What's your point ?

my point being pretty simply that you seem to belittle someone who has done a massive job in raising awareness in cancer and raised a hell of a lot of money towards fighting it

Junkyard - its fairly obvious that the moon landing never happened!! Its amazing how thruster rockets have the same effect on earth wit gravity than with the moon that has none. Hmmmmmmm, suspicious

[i]my point being pretty simply that you seem to belittle someone who has done a massive job in raising awareness in cancer and raised a hell of a lot of money towards fighting it [/i]

I'd quite happily belittle Jimmy Savil and he raised a lot of money for good causes.

Just because an individual does one thing good it doesn't mean that the rest of their life is somehow exempt from investigation and/or criticism, does it?

[i] than with the moon that has none.[/i]

errr, physics fail.

my point being pretty simply that you seem to belittle someone who has done a massive job in raising awareness in cancer and raised a hell of a lot of money towards fighting it

Livestrong / Armstrong have broken ties to help save the foundation.

I don't get the "cancer awarenesss" thing - it reads like marketing BS to me...

There have been plenty of questions asked about the charity and it's operations - about time some light was shone on that aspect of LA's activities as well.

When I saw that photo I actually pitied him.

How Marie Curie explains what it does with its money...
http://www.mariecurie.org.uk/en-gb/who-we-are/reports-and-accounts/
Notice the accounts and breakdowns of where the money has gone in the form of detailed PDF's.

Livestrong...
http://www.livestrong.org/What-We-Do
Seems to be full of buzzwords and spin, with enourmous amounts of money spent on things such as "functional expenses".

Quite why this additional charity was necessary seems strange, when there are numerous others he could have helped instead? Almost as if he wanted to turn Cancer into a money making brand for himself...

...and raised a hell of a lot of money towards fighting it

I challenge anybody to explain, clearly, in plain english and not very many words just how Livestrong fights cancer.

I challenge anybody to explain, clearly, in plain english and not very many words just how Livestrong fights cancer.

Magic Wristbands

But really i think its a figure of speech from our great American friends that doesn't actually make a lot of sense.

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I challenge anybody to explain, clearly, in plain english and not very many words just how Livestrong fights cancer.

I think that it's biggest practical benefit seems to be guiding American cancer sufferers through the American medical system, which while I understand the help they undoubtedly need, is ****ing crazy.

I quite admire the sheer bravado in posting that pic of himself lying there like a lord of the manor. He's trolling, plain and simple. What he's saying to everyone is that in spite of the millions of $$ spent in pursuing him, the largely symbolic stripping of his titles etc, he's still in control, he can still provoke pages and pages of massively polarised internet debate. Classic troll.

Probably borderline sociopathic but still. And if he believes what he's actually saying then he's certainly deluded although personally I think he's painted himself into a corner from which he can't really escape without doing jail time.

This blog is worth a read (quite short)
http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/10/23/the-apology-lance-armstrong-will-never-give/

franksinatra - Member

...and raised a hell of a lot of money towards fighting it

I challenge anybody to explain, clearly, in plain english and not very many words just how Livestrong fights cancer.

Ok. there currently is no known "cure all" for cancer, so possibly any money spent on this cause could be described as a waste of money.

However.....using money raised to educate people to the EARLY SIGNS of a type of cancer will saves many many more lives much more quickly by way of early diagnosis, many types of cancer are survivorable if caught early on. Hence cancer awareness is so important.

my point being pretty simply that you seem to belittle someone who has done a massive job in raising awareness in cancer[1] and raised a hell of a lot of money towards fighting it[2]

1. WTF does that even mean ? What exactly is this as a goal? Having massive conferences to raise awareness of cancer, selling wristbands , huge PR costs - its almost like its a vehicle to keep LA in the headlines
2. It no longer donates to research at all and iirc the total amount donate relative to riased is under 3% of revenue

Personallly i think it is a strange charity with an unclear aim and goals and I personally believe the money would be better spent elsewhere
Even if he cures cancer we are still allowed to point out he is a lying doping cheat

my point being pretty simply that you[b] seem [/b]to belittle someone who has done a massive job in [b]raising awareness in cancer[/b] and [b]raised a hell of a lot of money towards fighting it[/b]

[b]"seem"[/b] - No seem about it. I was belittling him.

Because ....

[b]"..raising awareness in Cancer"[/b] - that makes no sense whatsoever, and is a pointless exercise.

And ....

[b].".raised a hell of a lot of money towards fighting it"[/b] - Really ? Nowhere enough compared with the total amount spent on other stuff that does no good.

Furthermore, the complainant gets to share in a "bounty" based on a % of the misappropriated funds - which is many, many $ millions....

The person who is on the line for that payout if it ever happens is Landis.

Can't be bothered to look to see if it's been posting but [url= http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/athletes/lance-armstrong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html?page=all ]Outside Magazine did a good article on Livestrong[/url].

There's an interesting comment at the bottom from a cancer sufferer quoting from another cancer sufferer:

"I despise the set of warlike metaphors that so many apply to cancer. My antipathy has nothing to do with pacifism and everything to do with a hatred for the sort of morality which says that only those who fight hard against their cancer survive it or deserve to survive it - the corollary being that those who lose the fight deserved to do so."

I'd never thought about that before but I wholeheartedly agree.

I'm beginning to believe that 'sociopath' is the most likely scenario

I find it quite odd how some seem incapable of separating the charidee work from the cheating at sport bit.

Did he cheat, yes or no? The rest is superfluous to the actual case in question surely?

I'm beginning to believe that 'sociopath' is the most likely scenario

I thought it was well established?Just ask Emma O'Reilly....

"I despise the set of warlike metaphors that so many apply to cancer. My antipathy has nothing to do with pacifism and everything to do with a hatred for the sort of morality which says that only those who fight hard against their cancer survive it or deserve to survive it - the corollary being that those who lose the fight deserved to do so."

America is a country founded on protestantism. It is a country where work ethic is always ahead of ideas. It is a country that defines itself through violence.

Violence doesn't always work.

I found this an interesting article
[i]The voodoo cult of positive thinking[/i]
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2012/09/voodoo-cult-positive-thinking

Armstrong’s oversimplification of success becomes even more problematic when it is applied to the question of life and death. The misleading phrase “the battle against cancer” has a lot to answer for. A friend of mine recently died of breast cancer. It would be hard to imagine a braver, stronger-willed woman. But the cancer “won”, as cancers often do. That her death could be interpreted as a failure of willpower or positive thinking is a gross insult.

i'm bored of trolling now................

Probably borderline sociopathic

No borderline about it.

🙄 at raddogair - I wonder when Lance will get bored of trolling?

never, its fun sometimes.

Still the basics are true, and we need to seperate his cycling from his cancer work.

Cycling wise, i personally still think he was/is a magnificent rider. Loved to watch him race. He obviously did cheat which diminishes alot about him but he still remains 1 of my favourite riders to watch. Nowadays, who is there?. Wiggo, froome etc are not exactly exciting BUT they are fantastic (re team sky) tacticians and get the job done. Contador was fantastic in the vuelta but is a cheat. Rodriguez was great to watch. The only ones who i now think are fantastic to watch are mainly 1 day specialist (cancellera, boonen) and also maybe Sagan and personally A. Schleck. TDF 2013 though should be brilliant though.

His charity work though is seperate and for me he has done well with the Livestrong brand

I was more impressed by the size of his sofa...

His charity work though is seperate and for me he has done well [s]with[/s] off the back of the Livestrong brand

Fixed it for you.

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