[Closed] Are Mercedes estate cars cheap?

Have had x2 diesel 220 auto E-Class estates from 2008. The first we sold 2 years ago with 210k miles on the clock. Luckily never had any major mechanicals and had it serviced at the local garage. The interior was remarkably resilient and looked amazing after suffering 3 children and a lot of MTB trips. Sold it at auction for £600. The second is the same model but updated, 2013 currently with 100k on the clock. Again, absolutely no major issues apart from needing a new battery recently which was £400. The interior is not as resilient as the last one but still pretty good. Both massive load carriers, relatively quick, very comfortable and great cruiser on the motorway. Both were ex-lease at 3 years old from Car Giant in London which is a hell of a lot cheaper than cars down here in the South West. I’m only basing my experience on a sample of two but I’d have no problem buying another - although if I’ve enough pennies will be going electric after the current one needs to go, although I’m sure, like with most car makes, there will be others who haven’t been so lucky.

£400 for a battery??

£400 for a battery

Shhh. My Ovlov has two batteries.

It depends what you are comparing it to.

I was looking at them last year when I ended up getting my Leon.
The interior of the C Class was lovely, but that was about the only thing swaying me to it.

It would have cost me about £2k more for a cat that was at least 4 years older with about 70k more miles on the clock. And because it was a previous generation car it didn't come with Android Auto which was something I really wanted to have.
But the C class interior was lovely....

 It’s not until October but by September the market will be flooded with diesel cars

Why, what is happening to cause this?

The extension of the Ultra Low Emission Zone to the north and south circular will mean all diesels before EU cat VI will be charged 20 quid a day.

The assumption is that a lot of owners will realise this summer and try to off load cars.

Woody

@woody

I never realised that all the car ownership attitudes of the UK is based on a London policy. 🤔

Bath ULEZ came in mid-March (tho doesn’t affect private cars yet), Bristol are introducing one soon which will, as is Birmingham - so not just London by any means.

I reckon if you live in London (or commute in regularly) and have a non compliant car you’ll have a problem shifting it and prices will drop - I know 3 people who are already trying to sell. Bargains to be had if you live in others parts of the country and pick one of these up.

I stand corrected on that.

I'm still struggling to see everyone selling up all diesel cars, just because of one policy in cities.

I would like one, but the cost to change is too high, and it doesn't year suit our situation.

So London might be a good place to start looking for an older Chelseas tractor come September?

It's also coming to Scotland: Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and dundee

I bought one in 2011 (Demonstrator 6k on the clock) did another 150k and it was superb. Traded it in for another last year (10k on the clock) Both Petrol sport models. Wouldnt pay the new price and the new one was almost 1/3rd off the list (£22k)

Mercedes can be very economical motoring if you are doing long journeys or lots of miles, as they've put a lot of effort into reducing running costs for fleet buyers etc.

I had a C220 diesel saloon from the bottom of the range, but it still had all the standard toys like dual zone climate control, bluetooth, cruise control etc. The big difference in costs was the wheels, by avoiding the large diameter ones with low profile tyres I was paying just over £60 a corner for premium tyres (Goodyear, Michelin etc).

The servicing was every 15,500 miles (or one year) and the last couple were with the local garage that charged the same for it as any other 2 litre diesel. Other consumables like bulbs and wipers are the same as other cars, so there's no premium for these either. Your only risk is if anything big goes as mercedes parts can be very expensive.

You tend to pay a bit more for one, I bought at 2.5 years old and could have got a 1 year old mondeo/passat for the same money. However, when I looked at the going rates for high mileage 7.5 year old mercedes against a 6 year old mondeo it was a different story ... the depreciation on the merc was significantly less, and there is a strong market for them.

They can be... don’t drive the six pot cdi350 if you can’t afford it. It’s like being fired silently into hyperspace.
I put 140,000 miles on a CLK fitted with the same motor. Only ever needed tyres and basic services.

The classic merc estates 230t and 280t from mid 80s are going for crazy money now, its demand and supply there rent many good ones left.

Re Euro 6 I reckon all cities will tax anyone with Euro 5 and before, not just uk my friends live in Amsterdam and apparently the values of Euro 5 have fallen off a cliff there. I believe it's the road tax too there not just the rules charge.

I'm no expert but my Merc estate sport was the most effortless, smooth and comfortable thing I had ever driven. Only about 170bhp and probably weighed a lot but was plenty fast enough for me. The old 7 speed box was fantastic even after 160k the gear changes were imperceptible.
Could have bought a cheaper car but over its life (9 yrs) it was probably pretty economical. Just services.

I have a 2011 C with over 100k on it.

Its like a new car. The 7G auto is sublime. Mine is the C350 petrol 6 pot. The engine is also sublime, but 306hp is too much for the sport chassis to use, its a cruiser not a 911. I get 37ish mpg (really).

I think people are scared by the "bork factor" i.e. they think premium price new = premium price to fix.

I had to have a new handbrake (footbrake) mechanism, £300 fitted locally as it was sticking on MOT day. My blind spot radar doesn't work.

The C class estate is not as practical as a golf etc. For example, the comfy seats are big and take up a lot of room. Rear seat passengers don't have an excess of space. The rear seat doesn't fold flat. You can't remove the luggage blind without dropping the rear seats. Its like its not really designed for tip runs, more 4 up cruising.

Probably more affordable rather than cheap, combined with other brands becoming more expensive. I was after a replacement estate about 3 years ago and most brands were strong money, you can drop quite a sum on a box of dullness these days, though most seem built to a similar level of quality.

I wanted something like a Mondeo Titanium but they were thin on the ground as well as pricey (especially in leather / auto spec) turns out Mercedes have sold a lot more C Class'c in the last few years than Ford have sold Mondeo's, many times more! Plenty of choice, good specs, plenty of parts and a forum full of technical advice.

A Mercedes is really nice place to be and drive, maybe only a bit more expensive these days.

I wanted something like a Mondeo Titanium but they were thin on the ground as well as pricey (especially in leather / auto spec) turns out Mercedes have sold a lot more C Class’c in the last few years than Ford have sold Mondeo’s, many times more! Plenty of choice, good specs, plenty of parts and a forum full of technical advice.

Interesting. I changed jobs and gave up my company car. Test drove several including the Mondeo estate. Passed the Merc garage on the way home and saw a C class sport estate on the forecourt. it was 5 mins to closing so I went back the next day to test drive and bought it. It was the cheapest of the (all be them new) Ford, Vauxhall and Peugeot I looked at and a million miles away in terms of drive and kit. Suppose I could have made a similar saving with a demonstrator of those brands but who would not rather have a Merc than them...

Yeah weirdly used Skoda's are priced higher then Mercedes.

Its like some kind of inverted inverted snobbery.

@eckinspain what engine you thinking of going for? They do look good value and look nicer than a Skoda, but there are a lot of options.

Thanks all. I've read that there are hundreds of thousands of diesel cars in London that will be affected by the change in October. Sounds a lot to me, but supply and demand tells me I'm going to get nothing for the old Volvo in autumn so I'm keen to swap soon.

I'm looking at a 1.5 or 2l petrol model though I did see that an AMG is only 5k more which got me thinking! We don't use it much during the week but will use it for trips to Scotland to see my folks and to Spain for holidays.

Needs to fit me, the wife and 2 kids. No dog.

an AMG is only 5k more which got me thinking!

Do you mean an actual AMG (with a big V8) or an AMG-line 'normal' C-class (Normal engine but big wheels and 'sporty' bumpers)?

Do you mean an actual AMG (with a big V8) or an AMG-line ‘normal’ C-class (Normal engine but big wheels and ‘sporty’ bumpers)?

I have literally no idea.

I had a look at these after the OP started the thread,there are 2 amg models one a V8 the other a V6, plus the amg line which are nice cars despite the lack of fancy engine.

I used my C Class regularly on trips to Scotland of just over 400 miles with my wife and two kids. It was a massive improvement over an Audi A3 and also an earlier Mazda6 in comfort and the effortless way it covered the miles.

I’ve traded up to a bigger Merc as the kids are older and are both tall teenagers. The C class was a bit short of leg room in the back on the long journeys. You may want to get everyone in it to see what space is like if you are planning to use it for four people on long journeys especially if your kids are approaching their teens or are tall?

The servicing was every 15,500 miles (or one year)

18,000 or 18 months for my 1.0 litre Ford...
I’ve driven many, many Mercedes, including a C63 AMG, and I wouldn’t accept one as a gift, except to px it for something else. I’ve seen them bricked after a flat battery, the seats in newer ones are like wooden church pews, and a nearly new one, not sure of the class, but it had the super-whizzy dash-width screen, which went black as it was being driven out of our QC after some bodywork and paint. Had to be trailered to a dealer in Bath, plus it had some aircon issues they had to sort under warranty.
I also hate the stupid little knob for operating the wipers. Why?

I had a 17 plate e 220 amg estate as my last company car. It was massive inside, super comfy, fast and due to being the premium plus had every toy imaginable (like 64 different interior colours and an amazing burmaster stereo.)

It was significantly cheaper to lease than equivalent a6, 5 series, v90 etc.and far better spec.

From auto trader you can pick one up similar age with sub 20k miles for 20k. Equivalent v90 is 20 to 30% more.

Thats silly cheap for such a premuim car, mine had about 20k miles and still felt brand new when it went.

300TE estate

I had one of these for 6 years, 700 quid, dogs bo;;oclks

This thread has lead me down a rabbit hole..

Currently pondering wether I have a used GLC shaped hole in my life/driveway.

Never thought that would ever happen..

... The GLC is a lovely car and its dimensions (other than height) are almost the same as a standard C Class, so should easily fit on your driveway 🙂

I’m still struggling to see everyone selling up all diesel cars, just because of one policy in cities.

It's not just one city nor just ULEZ ... (tax/diesel cost) but even if it was the knock on effect is to drop prices nationally (except NI and islands)... It's T'internet ...

Same can be said for supermarkets .. when I was young there was a considerable difference in prices between say NE lancs and greater London ... chuck in t'internet and that's flattened to the "online price" just like chuck in an Aldi or Lidl and they price match nationally.

The only real non island / islands are places a LONG way from the next town but even the bargains in Aberdeen for performance WRX based cars and similar was very short lived before it diffused nationally..

I’ve driven many, many Mercedes, including a C63 AMG, and I wouldn’t accept one as a gift,

OK 🙂

18,000 or 18 months for my 1.0 litre Ford

You have set the bar high

Heres a thought.

All cars are effectively the same these days. all the bits and bobs come from a handful of manufacturers, anything they do themselves are done in the same way.

Car companies are just customer services agents.

Irrelevant if you are buying used. Just buy one whose bells and whistles you like.

all the bits and bobs come from a handful of manufacturers, anything they do themselves are done in the same way

I take your point and quality standards generally should be more consistent as they are dependent more on technology. I have a friend who has worked for Vauxhall (30 yrs) and now a very premium SUV manufacturer... He has more horror stories about the latter than the former and he has only been there a tiny fraction of the time.
I think its generally true that there are less poor quality new cars on the road now as there is simply no space for poor manufacturers. Even the lower price cars are high quality comparatively.

Car companies are just customer services agents.

Or car companies are just finance houses using the car as a vehicle to lend money against.

But I do like the c class estate.

Are there any other recommendations for a 2yo estate car that I should consider?
I've looked at Volvo V60; Merc c-class, Skoda Octavia. Don't want an Audi.

Seat Leon ST (estate). It's a little smaller than the Octavia in terms of load space, similar sort of price & a nicer looking design (IMO, of course).

I bought an 18 plate 2 litre diesel last July with 28k miles on the clock for £12000.
I also looked at the Octavia, Kia Ceed, C-Class, A4 & Ford Focus.

Octavia was nice, but not keen on the styling if I'm honest.
Kia Ceed - new one was just out of budget & old one didn't really seem comparable.
C-Class - would have had to stretch budget for an older car with a lot more miles, but was very nice inside. The spec & options baffled me somewhat; really needed to drill down into what each car had been specced with.
Focus - old version seemed outdated, while new one was over-budget.
A4 - smaller boot than Leon/Octavia & didn't seem 'premium' enough to warrant the extra price (would have taken the Merc over the Audi any day).

In the end, the Leon seemed like the best balance for me. Good value, good spec, nice looking, decent boot space with practical features like flat load space & easy-fold down seats, Android Auto etc.

The GLC is a lovely car

It is indeed. I've had a couple an AMG and an SL. The SL had the best ride of just about any car I've been in and Mercedes completely spoilt it by stiffening the suspension and fitting larger wheels on the AMG version which I think is now the only model of GLC you can get.

However be prepared for 40mpg even with reasonably careful motorway driving compared to the 55mpg which is easily achievable with a C220D estate.

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So where else is ULEZ being applied?

A quick googling doesn't seem to yield much beyond TFL links, which other towns/cities are being affected?
Someone mentioned Bath earlier in the thread.

We're In Reading, not far from that there London, with a dirty Diesel on the drive that I would personally love to be rid of.
I'd heard nothing about ULEZ expansion...

Bristol, now planned for 2023:

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/environment/2021/03/01/bristol-clean-air-zone-to-include-charges-for-cars

This thread has thrown a light on the E Class .... I need the space (spoilt for luggage space in the current car and will need it in the next with a dog now in the mix)

With the info about SL or AMG spec above, and my preference being comfort and eco over sport, anyone know which spec I should be looking for (not worried about gadgets, I'm sure even a basic spec will have many more the current 15 year banger)

Seem to be loads out there compared to 5008 I'd look at previously or the beloved/hated VW combi.

I have had 5 C Class's over last 15yrs. The one i have at present is the best one yet. I am absolutely loving it. Been a company car driver since i was 18 and had many Fords, Rovers, Mitsubishi, Volvo and Mercedes.

Mercedes C Class AMG 300de Saloon.
I filled the tank with diesel when i got it and its still on 50% full after 750 miles. Its a small tank so i think it will have used about £20 diesel in that time. I have done 500 miles on the electric motor just commuting. The rest was a trip to Preston on the diesel engine and trying out both motors combined at 300+bhp. Not really into driving fast but holy crap its fun. Because the electric is instant it make the 100bhp electric motor feel ample for town and 70mph driving.

Interior is lovely, its smooth (9spd auto for diesel changes to 6spd auto for electric), it has loads of toys and i like plugging it in for free when i go shopping and getting free fuel. Only downside is i have lost quite a bit of boot space for the electrics.

ULEZ info....lots of it

London "ULEZ begins April 8
Vehicles affected All vehicles which don't meet minimum emission standards
Low emission charge £12.50 per day for affected cars; £100 for lorries

The capital's atrocious air quality is expected to be more than double the legal limit in some areas this year, which is why London will be the first city to introduce a low emission zone based on the national minimum emission standards on April 8.

The ULEZ will use the same criteria as other clean air zones, imposing a daily £12.50 fee on all but the latest diesel cars and vans, as well as a £100 day rate for lorries that are more than five years old. The zone is currently limited to the very centre of London, but it will become enormous in 2021, when it is due to expand out to the North and South Circular roads.

A van scrappage scheme is due to be launched before Spring, providing some financial assistance for small business owners to upgrade older diesel vehicles.

London is also planning smaller zero emission zones in the capital from 2020, where all vehicles will be charged unless they are plug-in hybrid, electric or hydrogen vehicles that can run without any exhaust emissions"
Oxford "Zero emission zone from 2020
Vehicles affected All vehicles that don't run on electric power

Oxford has had a low emission zone in place since 2014 but this has so far only affected buses. It's planning on toughening its approach considerably by making the centre a zero emission zone. This will only be free to electric or hydrogen-powered vehicles, along with plug-in hybrid cars that can travel for at least ten miles on electric power alone. A charge would be imposed on other vehicles.

The council has proposed introducing a zone gradually, starting with a small area in the centre of Oxford, around Cornmarket Street. From 2020 it’s suggested that only zero-emissions vehicles will be able to park or load on the street at busy times.

Further restrictions are planned for non-local buses, vans and lorries from 2025. They will need to be zero-emission vehicles in order to drive free of charge through a much larger zone, encompassing the majority of the city centre. The station will be just outside the boundary in the West, and it will cover an area up to Magdalen College in the East.

Those restrictions will extend to all vehicles by 2035, but other vehicles may still be able to drive in the city centre for a fee. The council will consult residents on the proposal this autumn once the details have been finalised.

"
Slough "Vehicles affected Taxis, buses, coaches, lorries and vans
Slough council has ruled out clean air zone charges for cars, but is considering charges for other types of vehicles.The proposals, set out in its low emission strategy, published in August 2018, are still at an early stage, with details of the areas under review, and the vehicles that could be affected, still undecided.
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Fareham "Low emission zone being considered
Vehicles affected All vehicles failing to meet minimum emission standards

Fareham residents are currently being consulted over a proposal to introduce a clean air zone on the A27 and A32 , along the south side of the town centre, where air pollution is at its worst.

The council hasn't published any concrete plans, but is considering charges for all types of vehicles. It says that the zone would be a ""last resort"" and would have ""considerable impact on the lives of Fareham and Gosport residents"". The consultation closes in October and the responses will influence the council's final plans, which are due to be published shortly."
Bath "Low emission zone planned by 2020
Vehicles affected Buses and lorries failing to meet minimum emission standards

Aberdeen is one of four Scottish cities where low emission zones are planned by 2020. Unlike Glasgow's wide-ranging scheme that will ban older cars and taxis from city centre roads, Aberdeen is only looking at restricting buses and lorries.

As with other Scottish schemes, you're not expected to have the option of a daily charge if you have a vehicle that doesn't meet the required standard. Drivers of banned buses and lorries are likely to be issued with a penalty fee for driving in the zone, which a government consultation has suggested would be higher than a standard clean air zone charge."
Bristol "Clean air zone under consideration
Vehicles affected unknown

Bristol City Council is currently considering everything and nothing: from a clean air zone that brings in some measures to reduce emissions without charging, to the full London option, where all older vehicles will have to pay to drive in a sizeable area of Bristol. Five different proposals are currently being considered before councillors make their decision this year.

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Cardiff "Clean air zone feasibility study underway
Vehicles affected unknown

Cardiff has the worst pollution in Wales, and NOx levels exceed legal limits in some areas of the city, It has been told to investigate the possibility of a clean air zone by the Welsh government and is due to report back in 2019 with a proposal to improve air quality. It's too early to tell whether vehicle charging will form part of this.

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Birmingham "Clean air zone planned for the end of 2019
Vehicles affected All vehicles failing to meet minimum emission standards
Low emission charge £6 to £12.50 for non-compliant cars; £50 to £100 for lorries and buses

Birmingham is second only to London in its peak air pollution figures, with air pollution from nitrogen oxides (NOx) expected to average 53 microgrammes (µg) per cubic metre in 2018, well above the legal limit of 40µg/m3.

City councillors have approved proposals for a large clean air zone within (but not on) the A4540 middle ring road. If approved by the government (which is seen as likely) the charging zone will include the A38 Queensway through the centre of the city, which is the cause of much of the poor air quality.

All vehicles that don't meet the minimum emission standards (including most diesel cars sold before September 2015) would incur a charge. The council is considering a fee of between £6 and £12.50 per day for cars and its documents suggest that the charge will be at the higher end of this. Charges for lorries and buses will be between £50 and £100.

However, officials plan to make anyone living inside the zone exempt from the charges for at least a year. Key workers and low-income employees with jobs within the zone, as well as hospital patients and visitors, would not have to pay in the first year either.

At the same time, Birmingham is using £2.92m of government grant money to increase electric vehicle charging points, and is ordering hydrogen-powered buses. There's an chance of a local scrappage scheme to help zone residents with of older cars to upgrade to cleaner models. This is likely to be dependant on the government approving a request for £36m for various projects to improve air quality."
Cambridge "Clean air zone being examined for 2020
Vehicles affected unknown

Cambridge has recently published its Air Quality Action Plan, which includes mention of a feasibility study into a Clean Air Zone. If it goes ahead, the Zone will cover central Cambridge and come into place during 2020, according to the document.

The study will consider the effect of including private cars in the charging scheme, as well as buses, taxis and lorries. One possibility involves ""potentially permitting access to low emission vehicles only"", alongside reducing the amount of parking available in the city, the plan states.

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Derby "Clean air zone a possibility
Vehicles affected Either none, or all lorries, buses, vans and cars failing to meet minimum emission standards

Derby is one of five councils outside London that have been told to set up clean air zones to deal with air pollution that's far in excess of legal limits (more than 10µg/m3 over the 40µg/m3 standard in Derby's case).

It has published a consultation with three options, two of which include charging cars that don't meet minimum emission standards.

However, the council says that its preferred option involves restricting traffic on Stafford Street, part of the city's inner ring road where air pollution is particularly bad. The council would also set up a scrappage scheme, which would offer drivers of older cars one of three incentives to scrap them: a large discount towards an electric car; a smaller amount of money towards a modern petrol or diesel car; or credits towards public transport and car sharing club.

A second option would create a clean air zone within the inner ring road. Cars, vans, lorries and buses would be charged if they don't comply with the emissions requirements. There would also be traffic restrictions on Stafford Street, as well as a scrappage scheme.

A huge clean air zone within the city's outer ring road is part of a third option. It would be bordered by Queensway in the East and Raynesway in the West, going as far north as the roundabout at Little Eaton and to Warwick Avenue in the South. A scrappage scheme covering residents of the zone, as well as commuters to Derby would also be introduced."
Warrington "Clean air zone proposal being examined
Vehicles affected unknown

Warrington estimates that there were 95 premature deaths in 2013, due to pollution from tiny exhaust particles alone. Even though pollution is predicted to be within EU legal limits this year, the borough council is still considering introducing a clean air zone.

The council is looking into the viability and effectiveness of a zone and says that the location and types of vehicle affected will form part of this. The study is part of the council's latest local transport plan, which is expected to be announced in a consultation document.

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Manchester "Clean air zone Proposed for 2021
Vehicles affected Non-compliant lorries buses and taxis, plus vans from 2023
Clean air zone charge £7.50 for vans and taxis, £100 for lorries and buses

There are 152 stretches of road in Greater Manchester, covering seven local authorities, where NOx levels exceed legal limits, and the widespread pollution is set to result in one of the biggest clean air zones in the country,

The latest plans don't involve privately-owned cars. Instead, the Greater Manchester Combined Authority has proposed setting up a zone across the ten Greater Manchester council from 2021, which would impose a £100 daily charge on non-compliant buses, coaches and lorries, and a £7.50 charge for taxis.

Vans would then be included in the scheme from 2023, with a £7.50 charge for non-compliant vehicles.

The Authority will consider the plans on March 1, including the level of penalties.

Greater Manchester was exploring the idea of differential parking charging, where vehicles could be charged based on their emissions but these have now been discounted."
Sheffield "Clean air zone planned for 2020 / 2021
Vehicles affected Lorries, buses, taxis and vans that don't meet minimum emission standards
Clean air zone charge Proposals suggest £10 per day for affected vans and taxis; £50 for lorries and buses

Sheffield City Council has announced proposals for a clean air zone on, and within, the inner ring-road, which would affect most vehicles apart from private cars.

Taxis and vans that don't meet the minimum emission standards below will be subject to a £10 daily charge under the plans. Drivers of older lorries, buses and coaches will have to pay £50 per day. The council will publish a consultation on the plans later this year and will aim to have the zone in place to meet air quality targets by January 2021.

In addition, the council has said that it is considering include introducing anti-idling zones which would require drivers to switch off their engines when parked; retrofitting buses with cleaner engine technology; and potentially a small-scale scrappage scheme for low-income drivers.

High air pollution averages 51µg/m3 in some areas and the council has quoted NHS studies that suggest up to 500 people die early each year in Sheffield because of conditions linked to air pollution.

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Leeds "Clean air zone planned to start on January 6, 2020
Vehicles affected buses, lorries, taxis and minicabs that don't meet minimum emission standards
Low emission charge £12.50 per day for affected taxis; £50 for lorries, coaches and buses

Leeds' clean air zone has been approved by the government and will encompass a huge area, including the city centre, and a large segment to the north, extending to the outer ring road. It will stretch down to part of the M621 in the south-west.

The zone won’t affect most motorists because it doesn't apply to cars.

Drivers of most lorries first bought before 2014 will be heavily affected, with a £50 daily charge. Most taxi drivers will have to have a petrol-hybrid or fully electric cab to avoid charges of £12.50 per day or £50 per week, although existing drivers have until December 2021 to comply.

A £29m government grant will largely be given to vehicle operators to help them to adapt. HGV firms will share £13.8m to finance cleaner trucks; taxi drivers have been allocated £7.3m to upgrade. Leeds has some of the most polluted roads in the country, with average NOx levels of 55µg/m3, which is 38% above legal limits."
York "Clean air zone proposed for 2020
Vehicles affected Buses failing to meet minimum emission requirements

Figures from York City Council suggest that buses only account for three per cent of traffic in the city but cause 27 per cent of pollution. That's why the city’s clean air zone will only affect buses. From 2020, York plans to ban most buses, which don't meet Euro 6 standards, from the city centre. The council agreed to set up a £1.64 million fund for bus operators to upgrade their vehicles to the required standard."
New Castle "Low emission zone proposed from 2021
Vehicles affected Buses, lorries and taxis. Potentially cars and vans

Air pollution exceeds legal limits on the Tyne Bridge and its approaches, as well as part of the Coast Road in North Tyneside and areas of the A1 Western Bypass.

Newcastle City Council is considering imposing a clean air zone that applies to all vehicles in the centres of Newcastle and Gateshead. However, a council study found that it was unlikely to improve air quality to within legal limits by 2021, so the local authority is proposing a series of alternative measures that are likely to affect all road users.

A low emission zone for buses, lorries and taxis has been suggested for Newcastle City Centre and Gateshead Town Centre, in conjunction with tolls on city centre bridges, which would apply to most vehicles with the exception of public transport and the most economical hybrid cars.

Lorries and vans would be banned from the Central Motorway between the Tyne Bridge and Coast Road during peak traffic hours in the morning (7am to 10am) and evening (4pm to 7pm). The Council is also considering a scrappage scheme for residents with older vehicles, in order to help them upgrade.

A consultation on a full clean air zone and the alternative options will run from early March to May 17, before councillors make their final decision."
Galsgow "Low emission zone rolled out between December 2018 and December 2022
Vehicles affected All vehicles failing to meet minimum emission standards
Low emission charge Drivers of non-compliant vehicles will be fined

Glasgow's low emission zone came into force at the end of 2018. Initially, only local buses in the centre of the city are affected.

The city council plans to extend restrictions to all vehicles, including older petrol and diesel cars, from December 2022. The zone will cover the same central area, which is bordered by the River Clyde, M8 and High Street.

It will be the first test of the penalty model in Britain, where the most polluting vehicles are banned from driving into the zone. Drivers will be sent a penalty if they try. The vehicle criteria and fine amount has not yet been announced"
Edinborough "Low emission zone planned by 2020
Vehicles affected All vehicles failing to meet minimum emission standards

Scotland's capital city suffers from the worst pollution in the country, with more areas of illegal air quality than anywhere else north of the border. It's currently working on plans for a low-emission zone, which is likely to be finalised this year.

Council documents reveal that a city-wide zone is under consideration, as are a series of mini-zones in the areas of poorest air quality. Vehicles failing to meet modern emission standards will be banned from the affected areas entirely and the Council is considering including private cars in the scheme. Pedestrians and cyclists will be given greater priority at the same time, according to one of the council's transport leaders."
Dundee "Low emission zone planned by 2020
Vehicles affected All vehicles failing to meet minimum emission standards

Another Scottish town that's expected to ban the most polluting vehicles and fine them if they drive into a low emission zone, Dundee is expected to introduce measures by 2020. The council is drawing up proposals, which are expected to be published shortly."
Aberdeen "Low emission zone planned by 2020
Vehicles affected Buses and lorries failing to meet minimum emission standards
Aberdeen is one of four Scottish cities where low emission zones are planned by 2020. Unlike Glasgow's wide-ranging scheme that will ban older cars and taxis from city centre roads, Aberdeen is only looking at restricting buses and lorries.As with other Scottish schemes, you're not expected to have the option of a daily charge if you have a vehicle that doesn't meet the required standard. Drivers of banned buses and lorries are likely to be issued with a penalty fee for driving in the zone, which a government consultation has suggested would be higher than a standard clean air zone charge.
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@doris - Bristol is due to be operational by October this year.

@ro5ey the non-AMG model will have smaller wheels and be more comfortable unless you go top end and get air suspension (tbh not even sure this is available on e class or kept for the GLE suv and higher models).

They try to tempt you into the AMG line with more bells & whistles plus the continuous digital dash, which is spectacular. However the base model will have the essentials and some nice things as the days of the radio being an optional extra are long gone.

I’ve had a c350e estate for past 4 years as company car. Have just bought it for 14k which is going rate according to auto trader (17 plate, 50k miles). It’s the 2l petrol hybrid. Electric range really poor (about 12 miles) but is pretty fast with electric addition and comes with air suspension. Very comfy and decent to drive. Would recommend. Have averaged 37mpg since new. So electric not really adding much but did reduce tax burden. Road bike goes in with both wheels on. Need to take front wheel off mtb. For 14k I couldn’t see much better for what I require.

TBF my road bike used to go in the back of the girlfriend's Clio with both wheels on! 😄