[Closed] Are conspiracy theorists nuts?

Welcome. Great first post, you'll fit in nicely round here.

You will fit well here!

Welcome!

Thats an interesting post for an opener i must say....... Id ask if you sell bearings on fleabay... but you may LASER my eyes.... 🙂

Kaseaea and the sunshine band is back !

Yay

Oh and in answer to your question IME yes.

What tyres for a conspiracy theorists?

For BMX it would have to be the 'Shadow Conspiracy'.

I sell special helmets that stop them reading your mind.

Thanks for the you tube links and David icke as we dont get enough science on these forums

1984 is here, is it? Let's try an experiment.

THE GOVERNMENT IS SHIT

If I am still here posting tomorrow, and not in a dungeon in the Ministry of Love, then we'll know this is not in fact 1984.

[i]I myself began being targetted by government[/i]

Personally, I think some people just need there to be an overarching conspiracy running the world.

If it all turned out to be just accident and mischance they'd be *really* worried

If it IS 1984, I'm gonna buy me a whole load of them bitcoins. 🙂

Well you have provided a YouTube link so therefore it must be true

I've missed you Kaesae!

Talking about conspiracies, we did did hear where you got all of those frames from....

Actually, if you're not targetted, it can all be seen as a bit of hoot! But if you are, it's hell honestly. And they can and are watching everyone everywhere right now. Not just your email. But your thoughts. See ex-agent Barrie Trower on Youtube. He's got lots to say. This might be a jokey forum. But I think this needs to get out there. When I tell people, they always say to me, well why don't we ever hear about any of this. Well you're hearing about it now.

Watch some targetted individuals on Youtube - fake their symptoms of 'schizophrenia':

This is what a targetted invdividual looks like:- (please just ignore it - it means nothing!!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGrji9B5bF4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxrBLO1rAMM

http://quwave.com/defender.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTotgDOiWhY&list=TL_elKmdO-cvRb57-zzM-rcVVWIEEmeOqt

http://www.mindcontrol.se/?page_id=1733

This is a particularly good one of an innocent unassuming German woman Sabine Hinz who has been targetted - this is coming to a town or neighbourhood near you! Hope you're happy to sit back and let it happen!
http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=33877959&server=vimeo.com&show_title=1&show_byline=1&autoplay=1

Are they nuts?

Tricky. Errrr... Hold on.

Ummmm. Let's see. It's on the tip of my tongue.

Ah! I've got it.

Yes.

Actually, if you're not targetted, it can all be seen as a bit of hoot!

I thought this was all bogus until I myself began being targetted by government and made to feel I was schizophrenic or much worse.

How do you know you're not actually schizophrenic? (serious question)

How do you know you're not actually schizophrenic?

they told me.

@ molgrips. That's the point. They don't need to physically put you in a dungeon. They can do it all virtually with technology. They can do anything to you and make you look like your insane and totally discredit you with neurophones, voice to skull - the works. They will of course totally discredit you with the most outrageous slanders and slurs - some of it of course maybe true, because they can deep probe your brain to get at all the ultra embarrassing things you've ever done - and that use it say like Alistair Campbell, Damian McBride or Gordon Brown to totally pulsate you with microwaves into a kind of living oblivion - I know because they've been doing it to me. If you get intense headaches and lots of whistling sounds in your eyes - that's how it can start. Feel lethargic and suicidal in your home, but go elsewhere and feel fine - they could be targetting a phone mast on you. Signals can travel as far as 3 km. Yeah, I might sound nuts. But this is very, very real and sinister if you're the one caught up in it. And to be honest I'd just like to see the security services, police - who are the main instigators of carrying it out, and politicians of course just put in these virtual prisons. It might not concern you now. But it could in a few years time, when people are mind controlled to 'obey governments' and you've very little choice other than to comply! Do you trust this current shower with this sort of technology!?

You're hora aren't you.

They use a system called Celldar which uses the mobile phone masts across the country and the so-called Tetra masts which can see right in to people's homes and monitor their every move literally.

SO that's why I can't get 3G in Central London. Thanks for that.

No. I'm not a regular here. Just someone who wants to spread the word about this. This might not be taken seriously, but if people start talking about and are more aware, then when and if it's used in a more sinister way to start controlling people en masse, then this may have been of some use. Mind control ie subliminal signals are supposedly already used to stop shop-lifting in supermarkets. People can't hear it, but apparently messages telling people not to shoplift can massively reduce people nicking stuff.

I also read somewhere that some woman, who was into transcendental meditation, said when in a trance, she thought she heard on election day 2010, a voice say to her: 'I think I'll vote for Nick Clegg'. She didn't. But this stuff is out there and used on a minority - perhaps a troublesome journalist like I used to be. But trust me, just think of what the shower of )(*(&(^* could do with this stuff if they wanted. I don't trust them for a second, and I don't think you should either.

I also read somewhere that some woman.....

[i]People can't hear it, but apparently messages telling people not to shoplift can massively reduce people nicking stuff.[/i]

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I'd have said hello first before putting the willies up us.

* Waves *

Stoner - Member

they told me.

No we didn't

What makes you think that all of us on here aren't the governmnt too ?

You need to read some Jon Ronson

totally pulsate you with microwaves into a kind of living oblivion

I remember some all-nighters like that back in the '90s.

I also read somewhere .....

Brilliant.

that some woman, who was into transcendental meditation, said when in a trance, she thought she heard on election day 2010, a voice say to her: 'I think I'll vote for Nick Clegg'.

Righto........

She didn't.

Great stuff.

Thanks for that.

I can see how it's important to get people talking about these important issues.

whistling sounds in your eyes

she thought she heard on election day 2010, a voice say to her: 'I think I'll vote for Nick Clegg'. She didn't.

It obviously needs some work then?

They can do anything to you and make you look like your insane and totally discredit you

Why can they not just make you shuttup and agree with them or forget that you know the truth?
Why can they not do something really useful like make us all agree on what tyre or wheel size

What makes you think that all of us on here aren't the governmnt too ?

The expenses are rubbish though.

I know I'm not schizophrenic because my tablets have never worked. I thought I might have been possessed - no amount of prayers really worked. Then while asleep and being attacked by imaginary or what I thought were real demons while away at a holiday let, a very strong electrical current was directed at my bed. The bed started to shake, but it felt man-made. I went to a skylight window and got a strong electric shock when I opened it! Also I noticed when I got home all the locations of the mobile phone masts in the area. I felt a very strong wall of negativity and pulsating, disabling energy coming from the left of the house. I put up a radio to the window on a fm station and a terrible noise was emanating from the direction of this phone mast, which made me feel in a lot of pain and very, very disorientated. I went to another window - there was no such signal. My 'handlers' confirmed that it wasn't God and divine retribution as they always insisted to me. But that they were in fact the military and the police or members of the Labour Party or Lockheed Martin- a US Military company. But it's obviously very difficult to prove, because they discredit you so much and people don't know what to make of it all anyway. I'm trying to get help and stuff to reduce it and get some witness statements to make it all go away. But I get attacked sexually and in every which way, and everything wrong I've ever done is shouted out to anyone in the worst possible way so no-one will help me! Close friends and family are not told - so you're gaslighted and disbelieved. I'm constantly told to kill myself or I'll be killed or institutionalised. Trust me, if they've decided they don't like you, they can do a lot of horrible and terrifying things and guilt-trip you into oblivion. I just want people to know about this and to tell other people to hopefully help others in the future. The government are far shittier than you could possibly imagine. And people are monitored very closely in this country each and every day.

But it's obviously very difficult to prove, because they discredit you so much and people don't know what to make of it all anyway

See I find this hard to believe. I mean you come across on here as completely credulous and believable

[foilhat] Is Fred back amongst us again? [/foilhat]

They can do anything to you and make you look like your insane and totally discredit you

Like making you put crazy first posts on random internet forums?

They've done you like a kipper with an awesome double-bluff mind-control thing.

I know I'm not schizophrenic because my tablets have never worked.

This is no reason to assume anything it may mean the tablets did not work on you as your views are somewhat at odds with what the rest of us would call normality and they do not seem well grounded in fact/reality

I am aware challenging them wont alter your conviction but you have my deepest sympathies and i suggest you ask those around you whom you love and trust for help.

dont think we should mock here as it seems quite likely you have a mental illness and you should seek help for it

Best of luck

This might not be taken seriously...

Hi 1984ishere
Great 1st post, the perfect way to introduce yourself, i was wondering though, are you a cyclist or are you going on forums and spreading the word? Have you been on above top secret? Thanks for the heads up.

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Ok so there are two possible explanations.

1) There is a big conspiracy and the government is mind-controlling pepole.

2) You're mentally ill.

How do you know it's 1 and not 2?

You need help!

...but then the powers that be know that already

11/10

Chapeau, fantastic trolling. a LOT of effort....

11/10

Chapeau, fantastic trolling. a LOT of effort....

It wasn't their decision. They were made to do it sub-consciously. Derrrr 🙂

I just want to spread the word. I'm not going to be a regular on here. Because I've been put in a virtual kind of hell and have only recently started - to see the light as it were. I just want people to be aware, do their own research and wake up to what is very, very possible and happening. Forewarned is forearmed if you like. I'm not sure that's the right spelling. What I've come to learn is that what a lot of conspiracy theorists are banging on about is actually true. They paint politicians as sadistic narcissists and psychopaths. They go out there on TV glad-handing people and presenting such a respectable persona, but scratch the surface and they'd given some of the world's worst dictators past and present a run for their money. Just tell people and try to avoid their lies and traps. They've had this stuff for decades, but obviously don't use it en masse as yet!

Oh bugger off Fred.

is there a rumbling in the jungle..? New info become available..?

the conspiracy theorists on FB are very vocal ATM too..
or is it just the backlash to the winter consumer season..?

there are satellite brain scanners and so on that can literally read people's thoughts

I just want to spread the word.

I'm not going to be a regular on here.

Because I've been put in a virtual kind of hell and have only recently started - to see the light as it were.

Blah, blah, blah

Do these brain zappers offer any views on wheel sizes?

Ok so there are two possible explanations.

1) There is a big conspiracy and the government is mind-controlling pepole.

2) You're mentally ill.

Third one being Troll

I'm oot

totally pulsate you with micro[s]waves[/s]dots into a kind of living oblivion

I remember some all-nighters like that back in the '90s.

So thats where you are, we've been looking for you. Please prepare yourself for uplift, close your eyes and countdown from 42, you will be returned to site H for scanning, debriefing, and resetting before going back out.
You are doing well but there are still a few glitches in the base prog.
Stand by.

Celldar, isn't that the website where you can meet like minded.....oh

If this is a wind up its in really horrifically bad taste. Otherwise I'd say to the OP I think you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. Some of the things you are talking about, particularly the physical sensations, indicate psychosis. Please go and talk to your doctor or someone you trust.

This is all very serious, but what should we actually do to protect our selves and our loved ones ?

most of us are like sheep 1984 and need some one to lead us.

ignore any tin foil based solutions.

I read that the NSA have worked with manufacturers and that since 2006 tin foil no longer provides protection from mind control waves.

Icke on the first post

love it

Basically to get to you really well, they tap into your biofield. We're all basically made up of eletromagnetic waves - especially our brains and microwaves pulsate at the same frequency as your brainwaves or more or less - that's how they do it. It's really difficult to stop. I've been so discredited that I get very little help. And believe me they don't care how far they take things! No facts or anything remotely mitigating is of any concern. I've heard that carbon paint can shield you from microwave technology, but it needs to have grounding wires on it, so any electricity is sent out. You can use mylar sheets, which need to be grounded as well and hang them from your doors and windows. Ceramics and lead also stop microwaves and scalar waves. Stuff such as the Quwave Defender is supposed to help - I can't vouch for any of this stuff I've not tried it yet. There's also something called a Rayguard - google it - it's supposed to attract electrosmog and reduce the effects of microwaves. If you're targetted though, it may not do much good. Cellphone jammers are supposed to help and something as improbable as orgone or orgonite is meant to neutralise microwaves. Basically, if they've got you in their sights and how they do, you're stuffed and I know I have been. While I write this all the bad stuff I've ever done with their twists and spin on it is swirling through my head. They just blackmail you to death. I'm not perfect, but nothing like stated. But people don't care. And the thing is people not caring might just lead to some sort of conspiracy theorists' much postulated nightmare - and then someone will say - why didn't anyone tell us? Well now they have! The best thing to do is become far more politically aware and get organised to campaign against if you have credibility and any genuine concern - or laugh about it and take the government as honest, just and true! The choice is yours.

Was there probing? I bet there was, you saucy old devil you.

Big. Fat. Facepalm.

I think 1984ishere is doing very well. He's managed to post in the right forum with his first post.
Something that a number on here never seem to have mastered.
Oh and David Icke lives just down the road from me, shall I say hai from you next time I bump into him?

I thought it was the devil. But now I know it's people. I'm not saucy just totally run over by government technology. But then it's not done to you, so I suppose you just don't care. Like I said I'm not perfect, but nothing like rumoured. That's just the way it works.

David Icke may not be right on many things, but on this he is bang on!

Ok, lets say the "government" IS watching and listening to everything we do, "their" total learning from me this morning:

1) I have had a dump
2) I quite like peanut butter sandwiches
3) I post quite a bit of facile crap on facebook / twitter
4) er, thats^^^ about it really

Wow, they really must be simply ecstatic with that kind of vital, in depth, and irreplaceable knowledge.........

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Yeah, get a bit outspoken, go to rallies, be an activist and this circus might just be visited on you! Or say for example, the worlds resources are rapidly declining ie fossil fuels etc. Oil's depleting. There could be some kind of apocalyptic scenarios where people in the future can't function as they do now - then mind control might come in very useful to keep people servile and obedient or even kill them! Apparently, the so-called New World Order don't want the population levels we currently have. They could for example stage a few disasters with Haarp, the weather control system. You see you're thinking as an honest, rational, decent human being. Governments it would seem are far removed from that.

Please go and talk to your doctor or someone you trust.

+1.

That's where I was going with my posts.

I go to one fairly regularly. Don't use logic and reason though. That's just what 'they' are banking on. Just read some of the stuff on the internet from reputable sources, especially any accounts by former British agent Barrie Trower on Youtube. All this technology has been around for quite a long time. Anyway. Over and out!

There are "facts" in your statements that you can go and check.
You will find that those facts are entirely false.

e.g. [i]"our brains and microwaves pulsate at the same frequency"[/i] - nope, not even remotely close.

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_wave ]Gamma wave[/url] is highest frequency "brain wave" and it varies from 25 to 100Hz.

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave ]Microwaves[/url] are between 0.3 GHz and 300 GHz (i.e. 300,000,000Hz to 300,000,000,000Hz)

If you react to this contradiction by creating new even more outlandish "facts" with no evidence (e.g. "the man controls every single scientist and enthusiastic amateur in the world") then doesn't that suggest to you that you are just creating these paranoid fantasies yourself and that you need help?

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Definitely the best first post ive see since BMW broken/lost part from 3 years ago help required......

I bet the OP hasn't got a girl friend. In fact, has he ever been laid? I suspect that could be part of the problem...... 😉

I don't think the risks posed by microwave radiation should be taken lightly, I've been researching the subject too and the [url= http://www.naturalscience.org/index.php?id=51&L=0 ]damage it can cause to water[/url] is pretty alarming.

Because I've been put in a virtual kind of hell and have only recently started

You do realize that talking about this on the internet can only make your situation worse, don't you?

I KNOW this....

The government are far shittier than you could possibly imagine

This bit may actually be true.

I have heard different and here's some supposed evidence in contrast to yours:

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/listofmcsymptoms05jun03.shtml

Also Project Camelot has some stuff on this - a woman into New Age philosophies, Solaris Blueraven had this done to her:

She doesn't seem stupid or mad to me:

Alex Jones is also a fountain of information on all this kind of technology. He may be somewhat over the top, but one thing he said recently to me struck a cord - I paraphrase - it's the liberal-minded who don't ever believe any of this could happen - and yet it does!

I paraphrase - it's the liberal-minded who don't ever believe any of this could happen - and yet it does!

Yeah like the Guardian Newspaper - they didn't believe that edward Snowden guy now did they?

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I've been put in a virtual kind of hell

I vividly remember the day that happened to me..

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Err, my situation has been unbelievably bad for years. I don't care now. I won't be making a habit of this. I just want to get a kind of inverted revenge. I'm supposed to deserve all of this. And yet I don't think I do. Once they've set their sights on you, you're in for a very rough time. If it helps people see governments for what they really are, then good.

If it helps people see governments for what they really are, then good.

The reason I tend to disregard most conspiracy theories is because they rely on "Government" or "those in charge" actually being competent enough to pull it off.

Let's face it, if Bill Clinton can't even get a quiet blow job in his private office without the world finding out, how the hell have "they" managed to keep 9/11, Roswell and the moon landings under wraps this long?!