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Im getting fed up with all the cats around my house, there used to be 4 cats within the nearest 10 houses, never any real hassle, but lately there have been 3 new families move in nearby and we now have another 5 cats along with the original 4 so 9 in total
You can hear them jumping off our extension roof onto our sloped conservatory roof with a thump each time as they chase each other or worse chasing the squirrells, they run across 5 houses extensions/consevatories chasing each other making loads of noise
Lots of screeching as the they fight each other and now starting to find dead mice and birds in our shared private road which run behind the houses which im guessing is the cats kills
Even the foxes and their cubs have been seen around less since more cats arrived
Not to mention the cats like to sh*t in our gardens
Just been informed by one of our oldest neighbours who's cat has been around this area for 12 years that the cat has gone missing days after coming home with battle scars, he thinks the newer cats have scared it off so he's now keeping his other cat indoors
I know there's nothing we can really do about it, cats are just cu*ts
The owners can be a bit cultish, certainly.
Hasn't this been done to death on here a bazillion times? Is anything new or insightful going to come out of yet another thread on the subject?
Yes, not even a question anymore
I love our cat. As annoying as she is, she makes us laugh every day with her antics.
Complete and utter, yes.
I detest our (my wife's) two but not as much as the all-black neighbouring one that constantly sprays against our front, back and garage doors and car wheels most nights.
Despite cleaning it *every* day, including special spray from Amazon, the house stinks of cat p*ss, it's horrible. I hate them.
Put a cling film wall up on the edge of your roof and sit back and watch.
Yes and they do it on purpose.
I suspect someone has 'intact' Toms - they are sh1ts. There will be some boundary setting if there are Toms ! We've four cats but they are indoor/catio/catrun limited as three are pedigree and not worldly wise wired, and the rescue carries cat flu, so we keep him in too. They have an extensive run in the garden to get out in the fresh air.
Cats spraying - it's a Tom. Folk need to get them done as a Tom is not particularly nice animal to have - neutered males are far better (more friendly than females TBH).
Don't wash cat spray away with bleach - it makes the issue work. A floral disinfectant might be better as cats hate citrus.
There is a solution.
Get a dog. A Proper one of course, not just a rat on a rope that you take for a drag around the streets (chi-how-ha owners, you know what I mean)
I love cats, we have three of them that go outside.
Interestingly in Australia and I think America it's frowned upon / illegal to allow cats free reign outside as they decimate the local mini mammal population and instead, owners cat proof their own garden to keep them in or create large outside runs for them.
Another good tip.
Prior to having this bunch, we had three others. Three females (one arrived 10 years after the first two) and was arround when the current four 'arrived'.
We had issues with a few Toms coming round chasing ours - spayed females. One Tom would spray our front door then another would always be in the back garden (cat's establish a territory). I cleared one off with a super soaker.
Only needed a couple of 'encouragements' and it didn't come back. Cat's are way too fast if you try and chuck something at it, but a charged suer soaker, and the 'potential' of getting wet is fast. I'd shot at the cat from upstairs, missed.
Next time the bugger was terrorising ours in the garden, so snook up, let go, and just splashed the cat, moved sides around the other side of the garage, shoot.... missed the cat but it never came back. Totaly harmless and fun for you !
We have a problem ginger cat a few houses down, one of a pair. Total killing machine, I've seen it 20m up trees being mobbed by corvids defending their nests. Other one is much less trouble.
Now I have one of these.
https://uk.spyra.com/products/spyrathree
After a couple of shots from 5m or so, I now just need to shoot at the fence and the noise has it bolting home, 4 gardens away. By aiming upwards I can spray it from 10m away too if needed.
I actually love cats, and the others around here are pretty benign or mainly indoor cats. But this one...
They are worse than Land Cruisers
There is a fair amount of blame on owners too. If the cat has a clean litter, it will use that (ours will piddle inside, but poo outside in the run), and it all depends how much the cat is shut out. We used to keep our 'roaming cats' in at night, as do we do with the house cats at night - this is when they hunt, and cause fights etc and hiss folk off. If owners made sure they were in at night (cat's sleep most of the time anyway) then we'd have less wild life killed.
It's lazy owners, same with dog owners too - you get issues when the owners aren't 'bothered'.
I too am fed up of the multiple cats in our street. The garden birds have noticeably declined, we've empty nest boxes for the last couple of years. There's shit on any area of bare earth. It's not one cat per household any more - it's two and three, and that's just hugely upped the numbers.
🙁
I don’t have cats, but there are plenty round where I live, and other people’s cats bother me far, far less than other people’s dogs.
There are too many dogs and untrained owners in this world
Lots of screeching as the they fight each other and now starting to find dead mice and birds in our shared private road which run behind the houses which im guessing is the cats kills
It doesn't sound like cats to me. I would expect cats to either eat a kill there and then or take it home. I wouldn't expect a cat to kill something and then just walk away and leave it there.
And cats aren't really noted for being particularly noisy animals, if that's an issue for you I reckon that you are unlucky - they are generally very quiet animals.
Its funny, this is exactly how I feel about dogs. Cult dog owners with noisy dogs who run and poo everywhere. Never had a cat chase me and never ridden in cat poo. Also never had a cat owner shout at me while their cat chases me down the road.
Interestingly in Australia and I think America it’s frowned upon / illegal to allow cats free reign outside as they SHIT IN EVERYONE ELSES GARDEN and instead, owners cat proof their own garden to keep them in or create large outside runs for them.
They get some things right 🙂
Ours aren't, they are lovely, but they stay indoors.
Can they do the same with dogs so they dont poo in public places?
Can they do the same with dogs so they dont poo in public places?
I’ve no issue with cats as such, but I’d guess the majority of owners just leave them to get up to what they want regardless of whether it’s leaving presents everywhere but their own back yard and murdering baby robins.
At least the majority of dog owners round here have the decency to clean up after their furry friend. Can’t say I’ve ever seen anyone rummaging around in my flowerbed cleaning up after Tiddles (not so much an issue these days with a spaniel on garden patrol).
Have you tried barking at them?
Hammer frozen catnip into your neighbours front lawn.
Collect a small sample of the cat shit in a plastic bag and take it round to one of the cat owners requesting that they keep their bird killing shit spreaders out of your garden. Make you you are very smily and friendly while doing this so it is clear that you are not hostile or threatening.
Repeat for a while until all the cat owners have had their cat shit returned a few times and there may be a change it their ownership habits.
And buy a super soaker - water with aniseed balls dissolved in it makes it easier to smell which cats you have hit as the smell seems to linger on them for weeks but does not actual harm, unless they are sat in your living room of course.
I had a neighbours Tom cat peeing on our door years ago, spraying the door with cat repellant wasn’t very effective, but spraying the cat with it was. It repelled itself non stop for several days, from then on a little repellent on the door was enough to keep it away.
Cats are treated differently in law from dogs. You are responsible for your dogs actions but not your cats actions as cats are considered wild animals
Cats are also one of a very few if not the only animal that manipulates people into doing what the cat wants
cats are great, but they shouldn't be allowed to roam free, I've got two of the buggers that live in my house/catio.
Do too much damage to the native population of rodents, birds etc, and its far too dangerous for the cats to be outside. On the local facebook groups there is literally a missing or dead cat every other day....
I believe we've just hit peak pet culture in general.
Time for a cull!
Cats are also one of a very few if not the only animal that manipulates people into doing what the cat wants
...and clearly they just love a bit of supersoaking whilst allowing cross middleaged blokes to pay out their sniper fantasies 🙂 .
I'm guessing a single cat being kept indoors on its own, with it's owners out at work could be bad.. My two seem normal, not under stimulated, although one behaves more like a dog....
I never thought I could love an animal as much as my cat. She's just the best. Cats are awesome.
The answer is yes.
Caveat: my cat is great craic. We adopted her when she was 3 from an old lady who couldn't look after her any more.
She had never been outside before and even though we did experiment she was not very comfortable with it so she is quite content hanging out inside. Also, she is built like a melted wheely bin compared to other lithe outdoor cats and would get her ass kicked regularly by the big cats roaming around. She is thick as mince too, so would undoubtedly be flattened within a week.
She was kinda "curvy" when we first got her, and its taken about 2 years to get her to an actual healthy weight. She doesn't really like playing too much despite endless toys and attempts, outside of her mad hour when she runs up and down the stairs making weird yowling noises.
Her favourite thing to do is just come and sit with us, or bask by the window upstairs. Every night at about 10.30 she comes and herds me to bed. Even the cat foster lady and various cat sitters said she is remarkably lazy and chilled. Her favourite food is the cheapest Go-Cat indoor low-cal biscuits, and sometimes ham.
Doesn't display any anxious behaviour or unhappiness really and always gets a clean bill of health from the vet. Can still jump the equivalent of about 3 storeys when she wants to though. Mad wee things, cats. I love her with all of my heart.
I love cats. We have three indoor ones.
An intact tom - which sounds like your problem - is an ecological menace and needs dealing with. Some (most? all?) vets will do the snip on strays for free.
Never had a cat chase me
You're missing out. Getting harassed by a vicious feral tom is one of the great experiences of life.
Getting harassed by a vicious feral tom is one of the great experiences of life.
Doesn't have to be vicious, feral or a tom. My hands and forearms look like someone's had at them with a cheese grater. I mostly bring it on myself though. I once caught one making a lightning bid for freedom out through a top floor window, it was like catching a running chainsaw.
My hands and arms used to look like I'd self harming when my Bengal was younger and in the mood for a bit of playful attacking. Even with a think fleece pulled down to my cover my hand over. Needed a falconry glove really.
We've had over 50 cats in our house (not all at the same time), all kept as indoor cats while we had them. The only ones that couldn't have lived quite happily as indoor cats on a permanent basis were the proper ferals that were just being neutered and released.
We do have quite a large open-plan house and there's plenty of entertainment for them. If you have a safe neighbourhood then letting them out is also quite reasonable IMO but it's certainly not necessary. At least two of our fosters were killed on the roads a short while after rehoming and I've currently got a stray that had its throat torn by a dog (a very lucky escape, a week later still looks like an extra from a horror film).
It's notable that people with posh pedigrees tend to keep them in much more than those with random moggies. It's not the behavioural needs of the cats that differ, but rather the attitudes of their owners towards death, injury or loss of their pets.
Cat attacks man
He was messing with the cats' stuff. He clearly deserved it.
Cats are great loving cuddly playful etc.
They are part of the same family as lions and leopards though, you wouldnt tease leopard would you or mess about with it's bed when you have already been warned
Also my cat has the instant vertical take off skill, he can easily reach 8ft in a nanosecond
The family cat.
Come and tell me my cat is a ****
They are part of the same family as lions and leopards though, you wouldnt tease leopard would you or mess about with it’s bed when you have already been warned
Also my cat has the instant vertical take off skill, he can easily reach 8ft in a nanosecond
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Had cats for the last 20 years. Every year the small bird population expends. I am getting fed up of those sparrows bellowing at 4am every morning? PMSL
And cats aren’t really noted for being particularly noisy animals, if that’s an issue for you I reckon that you are unlucky – they are generally very quiet animals.
neighbours car quite likes jumping 5 ft from fence onto my decking. That makes quite a thump. I’ve got used to it but it used to be startling. If it was doing it on a conservatory I’d be concerned about damage.
Cats are also one of a very few if not the only animal that manipulates people into doing what the cat wants
I'm guessing you've never owned a spaniel?
neighbours car quite likes jumping 5 ft from fence onto my decking. That makes quite a thump.
Does it play Waylon Jennings as it jumps?
It’s notable that people with posh pedigrees tend to keep them in much more than those with random moggies. It’s not the behavioural needs of the cats that differ, but rather the attitudes of their owners towards putting their financial investment before the needs and wellbeing of the animal.
FTFY
They are part of the same family as lions and leopards though, you wouldnt tease leopard would you or mess about with it’s bed when you have already been warned
They kind of are and aren't. Big Cats and Little Cats are different things.
Also my cat has the instant vertical take off skill, he can easily reach 8ft in a nanosecond
This one time, I took Mollie to the vet. Mollie is three-legged. Whilst she was there I asked for her to be chipped. I warned them before I opened the kitty-carrier, she's feisty and there's a lot of power in that one back leg, don't underestimate her. I opened up, she came hobbling out, they must have thought I was daft. The vet summoned a nurse, the nurse goes "I'm a professional cat-holder" and it was all I could do not to audibly scoff. Mollie's docile, calm as you like. The nurse loosely holds her, I thought "they've taken their eye off the ball here." The vet touches the needle to the nape of Mol's neck, she goes up like a bloody landmine. Easily above head height. It put me in mind of the scene in one of the Star Wars prequels where Yoda kicks off.
I'm stood there thinking "I told you so, and you didn't believe me." Mollie didn't get chipped that day, the vet suggested that I bring her back when she's calmed down.
One of our neighbors cat has taken to using our front flowerbed as it's litter tray.
It f***ing stinks every time I walk off the driveway.
Doubly annoying as we've been raising money for Guide Dogs by selling our excess seedlings from a trestle table out there and it really does smell like an open sewer on a warm day.
Is it like overhanging branches, can I just fling them over the fence onto their lawn?
Not allowed in…
I see far more dog crap around town!
That's because the cats are crapping in everyone's gardens, not the pavements.
That's a male Bengal
I see far more dog crap around town!
I've seen the Manic Street Preachers in town.
Would be quite cool if they did a gig in front of my house but the cat shit would definitely need clearing first.
Quite a few posters on here hating cats and this blaming them on keeping the bird population down is waffle a bit like seals or otters doing the same to fish stock
I hate the pigeon that craps on my car but having a Rowan tree in my garden it's not getting chopped down or the pigeon getting shot. I've no evil spirits so the tree is great
You can maybe tell I like cats
Muslamic Cat
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Come and tell me my cat is a *
If it's anything like the ones around here, your cat is a *.
"bit like seals or otters doing the same to fish stock"
It's not really though is it. They're doing it to survive, if you're feeding your cats then they're killing for fun. But hey it's only approx 275 million deaths a year and they were all sickly and asking for it anyway.
So got a bit of an update
Bumped into the neighbour whos cat was attacked and then went missing, his cat has been seen in the area but wont come near the house, he has tried catching it but to no avail, one of the other older neighbour's with two cats is now keeping them both indoors after one of his also came home with battle scars
The 5 newer cats (two households with 2 cats each and one household with one cat) have been chatting with me and the neighbours and it turns out the households with 2 cats each appolgised for their cats behaviour, it seems both new neighbours with two cats each have seen their cats fighting each other and fighting the other cats which have been here much longer
One of them did say their cats are neutered/spayed but they dont get along with other cats well and tend to fight, the other neighbour said his two cats like leaving him presents (birds, mice etc..) and even said they seem to work as a tag team to capture them!
There is a neighbour around 12 doors up who has an aviery, he normally keeps himself to himself but he has told one of the older neighbours that he keeps finding 2 cats sitting on his aviery roof chasing the birds
if you’re feeding your cats then they’re killing for fun.
They are doing it because it has been an extremely useful instinct for humans for thousands of years.
Dogs have had their hunting instincts modified by humans so that the the killing bit was bred out. But with cats ever since humans started farming it was imperative that there killing instincts be maintained.
Since the arrival of cat food 150 years ago the need of cats to survive by hunting, and therefore successfully pass on their genes, has vastly diminished.
I think it is probably already having an impact, IME most modern cats, despite a few exceptions, show little interest in hunting.
Out of approximately ten cats throughout my life I can only think of one that was a prolific hunter, and even she stopped when she reached middle age. The current two are six years old and in a combined time of 12 years they have caught no birds and only 4 mice, the last one was coincidentally this week. They do have an obsession with catching flies though - I reckon they think that flies are taking the piss and deliberately trying to wind them up. And they do actually eat them. They won't eat mice though - they won't touch raw meat.
Ultimately the problem species, when any species of animal is vilified, is humans, not the accused species.