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Had my annual appraisal today and after unsuccessfully angling for a pay rise I am in need of a sanity check, the below is taken from my appraisal outlining my duties at work -
I am responsible for all warehousing and despatch operations within the company, my duties include:
• Purchasing large quantities of stock (into the tens of thousands) and dealing with varied suppliers.
• Frequent stock takes and updating our inventory.
• Sage 50 User.
• General tidying/rearranging stock so that the warehouse remains an accessible and safe working environment. Implemented KANBAN style system 2 years ago.
• Organising the packing and despatch of goods from our warehouse, which involves booking consignments via various carriers. For bigger items, it can also involve palletising goods and loading shipping containers. I despatch goods both within the country and abroad. Dealing with customs paperwork and dealing with the fallout from Brexit.
• Dealing with customer enquiries via phone and e-mail.
• Organising the manufacture of components.
• Another key part of my role is driving the company van around the country collecting and delivering goods.
• Key holder for the premises
• Fire Warden
• Company PAT tester.
• Assist the event team by attending events and exhibitions (all around the country).
So my question to you guys, what do you think would be a fair salary for the above?
Sorry if this post comes across as a bit pathetic but I am feeling pretty deflated tonight.
Thanks in advance.
Any supervisory responsibilities, and which bit of the country?
How many of those duties are actually documented and how many are just things you do because nobody else does?
So my question to you guys, what do you think would be a fair salary for the above?
No straight answer, but “whatever your companies competitors (in a similar location) will pay” is the way way to work it out.
If your skill set is in demand it could be a lot, if there’s loads of people who can do your job then less.
Ultimately, the only way to know your true value is to look on the job market and see what’s out there. Look at adverts, speak to competitors, and if there isn’t any then the answer might be less than you think.
Ultimately, the only way to know your true value is to look on the job market and see what’s out there.
Is the correct answer. To push your salary you often have to move. If you enjoy where you work and it is convenient you have to factor that in 🙁
So my question to you guys, what do you think would be a fair salary for the above
Probably not as much as you think, but if you're not happy, don't argue about it. Talk with your feet. They might offer you more...
£25-50k depending on part of country and sector. Upper end if you are doing it for someone like Peloton / Apple etc…
Salary only works out to 60% of your total comp. Lots of things to negotiate if salary doesn’t move e.g
Extra holiday
Personal van usage
Training
Pronation contributions
Stock / profit share
Your best asking exactly what they want from you for a pay rise that can be measured and do it. If they don’t give give the rise you cabin then walk.
There's a few tasks there that sound fairly incompatible with each other, specifically,
Organising the manufacture of components
driving the company van around the country collecting and delivering goods
All the expected stores/stock control stuff.
Plus you'll want a generous allowance for the hassle of being a key holder - does that mean you are effectively permanently on call?
Honestly sounds like the jobs of 3 people. Maybe look at it the other way, what is available in my area that I could apply for that pays the same money? Have I got the transferrable skills to apply for other jobs and if successful whack your resignation in. Either you'll be leaving for a less stressful job for the same money or you current employer will shit themselves and you can negotiate a fair for staying.
As above, some of those tasks just don't align with the others, from the main ones, you appear to be supervisory in the warehouse, so a hands on, in the warehouse position, in many, directing staff to achieve those tasks, but then you have 2 or 3 tasks that appear to take you away from this primary role and either being away from the warehouse, or doing ancillary tasks.
I'd say it's more down to a business that doesn't understand how to manage tasks appropriately, or there are more supervisory personnel within your company doing the same tasks.
The sad fact is that a lot of companies are taking advantage of their personnel at present, with the fear of cuts and so on, it really comes down to the area you're in, how complex it is to learn your job and how much redundancy they have against your tasks, are they a company that struggles when you take a fortnight off, or is there a few who can cover, i'm guessing that people leaving is a reason you have a couple of those tasks as it is!
The important question is how much are you earning now - they may well already be paying you very well.
Gotta earn that minimum wage boy. Now make sure you are dragging that broom stuck up your arse around while doing the accounts. The bosses car needs cleaning and a shoe shine while you're at it u ****ing glassback.
Av you paid that 800 quid rent yet, the AMG won't fuel itself and I'm off to the Caribbean for third time this year.
We can get one those poles in to do your job for half the price and their happy in a caravan in the car park!
The trouble with trying to turn "I do all this extra stuff which is above and beyond my job description and pay grade" is that they know, and they know you've been doing it for no extra money for the past however many months or years, and they're perfectly happy with that. It's no surprise that it ends up being heard as "I have a proven track record of doing this stuff for free".
So the question is almost, do they believe you'll stop doing it, if you're not rewarded properly- will you refuse duties above your basic, or will you leave? And if you're willing to hardball it, how will they respond? I went down this line with a previous employer, told them "if you won't compensate me for doing these things, you can find someone else to do it"- and ultimately, had to, and that led to a really bloody difficult 2 years of them treating me like I was the problem, and having to fight every appraisal, every bonus decision, etc tooth and nail because no matter that I was doing my official job, very well, in my boss's head I was failing to do all that other stuff that she was used to being able to take for granted.
I don't regret it, but it was difficult.
Equally, in my last job I was doing a ton of stuff that I enjoyed doing, and so the money was way less important. In that situation, I never said "pay me for what I do, or I'll only do what you pay me for", because I didn't want to stop. I'd say "different tactics required" but the fact is, it took the strongest tactic straight off the table and meant I was always on the back foot. (as it worked out, I did negotiate a salary increase and a tweak in role to better suit what I was doing)