[Closed] Apple Rage

want choice buy something other than apple, simple as. They know best for their pockets

I let out the biggest rage roar

[img] [/img]

Why not just take the adapter you get with the phone with you in your wallet? It’s probably a cheaper option than throwing your phone out of a car window plus you won’t be littering.

Ooo, it's been what? 2 weeks since we last did this argument?

I really think for the first time in maybe 10 years my next phone will be a Samsung

Good luck transferring your music over. Try not to download the malware from the Play store too.

Also, get richer friends with bluetooth in their car.

😛

Nice advert though.

I've just treated myself to some AirPods and I must admit they're very good. It doesn't solve the problem of not being able to play Apple Music via Bluetooth in my car...

...fortunately I have an iPhone 6 🙂

That really pales into insignificance compared to not being able to add memory or change the battery, at least for me.

If you use the headphone jack on a weekly basis, why on earth buy the only smart phone on the market that doesn't have one? Or, as above, take the adaptor with you?
I have always found the headphone jack in any phone to be a weak point and find myself listening through either one or the other speaker but rarely both.

It doesn't solve the problem of not being able to play Apple Music via Bluetooth in my car...

What's stopping you? Bluetooth works perfectly well

Rachel

This happens every week but you still don't carry the adaptor with you?

Man you are a slow learner!

Unfortunately (for you) more manufacturers will eventually drop the headphone jack. Google have done it with the new pixel phones after mocking apple for doing it on the iphone 7 and I expect Samsung will probably follow their lead at some point. I think I read somewhere that HTC, Motorola and Xiaomi are all set to release flagship phones without a headphone jack.

What's stopping you? Bluetooth works perfectly well

Doesn't work in my car for some reason either.

Bluetooth works. I can make calls and even get the driving directions through the speakers. But no ability to play music, I have to use an aux cable for that.

I assume my car just doesn't implement the A2DP Bluetooth profile. (It's a ten year old Ford Focus)

They'll have no ports at all soon. Wireless charging, bluetooth headphones, memory built in. Won't be long before they ditch SIM cards i'd imagine.

[i]Bluetooth works perfectly well[/i]

Ever tried connecting a bluetooth radio to a phone while driving? I find it hard enough to get mine connected and I've had the car 3 years! Let alone in an unfamiliar car...
Hence: iPod.

why do people who get pissed of with tech go straight to "I contemplated throwing it out the window"?

Is that the sort of thing that makes technology work?

[quote=DezB ]Bluetooth works perfectly well
Ever tried connecting a bluetooth radio to a phone while driving? I find it hard enough to get mine connected and I've had the car 3 years! Let alone in an unfamiliar car...
Hence: iPod.

start car, say 'hey siri, play me some music' and as if by magic it just happens...

Ive seen the Gordian knot that deadlydarcy has to endure if he wants to charge his iPhone and block the sound of my snoring with headphones when we're cuddled up in bed together. It's a sorry sight.

start car, say 'hey siri, play me some music' and as if by magic it just happens...

though using a lot of hire cars pair phone, work out which setting music plays through then start it and play it.

I assume my car just doesn't implement the A2DP Bluetooth profile. (It's a ten year old Ford Focus)

You are correct. Been there scratching my head on why it wouldn’t work.
You can get it to work though but it requires a different (later) spec BT module. Show up on eBay occasionally about £60+ and also gives the ability for usb too with the required extras.

Sorry for the slight thread diversion(!)

I assume my car just doesn't implement the A2DP Bluetooth profile. (It's a ten year old Ford Focus)

That's it - my old S Max was the same. Really annoying having a perfectly good hands free on Bluetooth but no A2DP. It annoyed me so much I bought a new car 🙂

Cheaper version than above - most Fords of this vintage have a 3.5mm AUX in so you can buy a A2DP box to plug into it .. but then it either needs charging or powering and there are leads coming out of the glove box and ...
I bought one and it just sat in the glovebox after I'd flattened the first charge.

Ever tried connecting a bluetooth radio to a phone while driving?

A lot of VAG cars won't let you do it whilst driving anyway

Ever tried connecting a bluetooth radio to a phone while driving?

Several times a day. Two phones and I often switch between the two for both Phone Calls and Bluetooth Audio.

Four clicks on the steering column stalk and it’s done. Incredibly simple.

And I drive a commercial vehicle so it’s hardly cutting edge tech.

Get better friends who can afford a decent car (stereo)? I imagine you have to spend the entire journey shielding your face, lest you be recognised in the antediluvian automobile, so hardly a convenient arrangement for you as it is.

[i]start car, say 'hey siri, play me some music' and as if by magic it just happens...[/i]

I'll try that in about half an hour. Can pretty much guarantee that music will begin emanating from my iPhone speaker. Or Siri will list random a bunch of websites on the screen.

I had my apple rage moment many years ago when they changed to intel chips and stopped supporting the G5 meaning my 3yr old Imac would no longer talk to my new iphone as it needed 10.something (some stupid animal name) and my imac couldn't run that OS.

I fudged some workaround until my contract was up and that was the last time I ever went near an apple product

now looking at the 'reviewers' struggling to say nice things about the iphone X whilst anyone can see its a white elephant

now looking at the 'reviewers' struggling to say nice things about the iphone X whilst anyone can see its a white elephant

It's just a phone..

The fact that they're massive, tax dodging, ****ers is more of a serious problem imo.

[quote=uselesshippy ]The fact that they're massive, tax dodging, **** is more of a serious problem imo.

where apple lead, others follow.... 😉

They missed a trick there. Could have been a camping scene with the iPhone owner freezing cold and all the Samsung owner roasting marsh mallows on a flaming Galaxy Note

Bluetooth or proper car dock.

I'm going back to a Nokia. I'll miss Instagram and...

...Nah, that's it.

@Rachel - I have a 2012 1 Series. The Bluetooth works with no problem for the telephone, but not music. Very rarely I get "Albums, Artists, Songs" show up as headings on the iDrive display, but with nowt in them; maybe it doesn't work with Apple Music. I've spent too long trying to work out why, so just plug my phone in instead.

Disapointed.

Thought this was going to be about the thieving organisation dodging the vast majority of its corporation tax and thereby depriving UK PLC of much needed funds for schools, healthcare, security, roads, trails....

stilltortoise - Member
@Rachel - I have a 2012 1 Series. The Bluetooth works with no problem for the telephone, but not music. Very rarely I get "Albums, Artists, Songs" show up as headings on the iDrive display,

Have you ever updated the iDrive software? Think you need a USB socket in the car to be able to do it though.

[url= https://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Bluetooth-Receiver-Wireless-Adapter/dp/B00O8GASEA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1510059641&sr=8-3&keywords=bluetooth+receiver ]Just get one of these and plug it into the Aux cable FFS[/url]

…why on earth buy the only smart phone on the market that doesn't have one?

Google, HTC, Lenovo… all with flagship phones without a headphone jack now. Fully sealed handsets can't be far off.

I agree with the sentiment of this comment though. Dropping old tech can be a pain in the arse for people with old tech they want to use… if that's you, just buy a device supporting said old tech. Simple.

Meanwhile, in my world.

[img] [/img]

completely forgetting the fact that the clowns at Apple dropped the headphone jack

So your mate drives a car with out of date technology ie no Bluetooth

and you 'forgot' that the iphone 7 actually comes with an adaptor to allow you to plug it in?

Whats your point OP?

I agree with the sentiment of this comment though. Dropping old tech can be a pain in the arse for people with old tech they want to use… if that's you, just buy a device supporting said old tech. Simple.

Maybe they should build the adaptor into the phone so that no one would ever forget it or lose it?

Maybe iPhone XI?

Maybe they should build the adaptor into the phone so that no one would ever forget it or lose it?

Silly

I bought a tiny little bluetooth audio receiver from eBay for £9 for the car, and it works brilliantly. Also works with headphones since it's battery powered.

Only problem is that it has to be turned on manually. But when I do that the phone automatically turns to drive mode and then I can do everything by asking Google. Even play Amazon Prime music!

Have you ever updated the iDrive software?

yes

So your mate drives a car with out of date technology ie no Bluetooth

and you 'forgot' that the iphone 7 actually comes with an adaptor to allow you to plug it in?

The adapter lives in my car on the end of my jack to jack cable, the bluetooth quality in my car is awful. Maybe keeping it in my wallet might help, but there are times I go out without it, if they did a keyfob version that would be excellent.

The car in question is a new-ish VW thing, he had the choice of engine with more power and less gadgets or less power and more gadgets. He went for the power and less gadgets, at least it gets you home from rides quickly!

My music collection in iTunes is the only thing keeping me attached, but this is because of the playlists, the music I have the physical files for. The switch would actually just need me to recreate some playlists if I think about it...

Maybe they should build the adaptor into the phone so that no one would ever forget it or lose it?

Maybe iPhone XI?

Cool idea. They could build in other obsolete technology too.
Maybe a MySpace app
Or a 1megapixel camera.
Or maybe a 3 1/2” floppy drive.

[quote="FunkyDunc"]So your mate drives a car with out of date technology ie no BluetoothWhich version of bluetooth? I've had bluetooth on every car for the last ~12 years. Some wouldn't connect to apple, some wouldn't connect to android, or at least, not all android. HTC was ok, Samsung was ropey and Sony/Sony Ericsson was useless. All using slightly different set ups.

Oh, and updating the car didn't mean they all connected, it just swapped everything round, so you still struggled with some. And some years were worse than others. i.e. when the new bluetooth standards on phones (12-18 month product cycle) and cars (3-4 year product cycle) got so far out of sync that the in car stuff was no longer supported. (Really, you should see some of the hardware some manufacturers used to fit, antique almost. Some cars even still come with CD players 11!!11!!111!!11one)

I suppose that is as the in car entertainment manufacturers are pretty much on the same development cycle as the phone manufacturers. So unless you bung a brand new aftermarket stereo in every couple of years, you'll start to lose functionality.

Thankfully it's all calming right down now.

Cool idea. They could build in other obsolete technology too.
Maybe a MySpace app
Or a 1megapixel camera.
Or maybe a 3 1/2” floppy drive.

Now if they could get it to run Flash... 😀

The switch would actually just need me to recreate some playlists if I think about it...

Google play music will copy all your playlists in iTunes too so......
The cheaper option might be to buy another adaptor and leave it in your mates glove box rather than buy a new phone and as a couple of us have mentioned pretty much all manufacturers are dropping the headphone jack so when you next upgrade you might find your options are limited anyway.

Some cars even still come with CD players

Six CD multi-changer under my passenger seat PLUS a slot on the main stereo!

Currently rocking a full collection of Roald Dahl audiobooks 😆

"Hey Siri <pause> Play some music" worked! Almost. It was silent until I pressed a couple of buttons on the radio thingy unit. So, after a combination of voice control and old skool knob pushing, sounds filled my car 😀
iPod is still better.

Stilltortoise - you need to code EBT
Unless you have ProNav you won’t have the option to play on standard Nav.
Easily done in about 5mins with a lead

There are plenty of cars fitted with USB, but it’s 0.5W power, and can’t charge any modern smartphone, so the bloody battery goes flat, so in order to keep the phone charged I use a 12v adaptor; except mine wouldn’t work in the Golf I drove back from Cornwall today, requiring me to plug the phone into an Anker powerpack to use my satnav.
At least I had a DAB radio with 6Music in the car...

People talk about a Samsung like it's the only rival to the iPhone.

People don't seem to understand android.

I own an S8 but have owned various android phones. Loads of choice out there

My iPhone 7 charges fine in the USB socket in my Focus.

I don't understand why apple can't make a range of phones.
Big fat phone with a huge battery would be a start.

"Apple rage" .. früher:

I can’t believe anyone would sell their car and take a depreciation hit if hundreds or thousands of pounds over Bluetooth. Not only stupid but unnecessary. I had an smax that couldn’t play music over its BT system. I didn’t by a new car, instead it spent about £15 on a 3.5 jack to bluetooth dongle, plugged the jack into the aux socket, connected to the BT dongle and hey presto, music over BT. Worked fine for years. Thinking about getting one for my bose qc25 headphones to connect them to my iPhone via BT.

Siri is very useful, I dictate messages and email to it a lot and works very well. Not completely perfectly but requires a lot less faffing than trying to over ride spell check and mistyped words. It’s also good at making calls for you.

My kids find it funny to ask it silly questions and mostly it provides silly answers as it recognises a silly question and mostly understands it and provides a silly answer.

my home computer is a new iMac, my work computer is a bells and whistles macbookpro, I got one of them timecapsules.

my phone is android.

only one of these I pay for with my own money, everything else is work supplied.

iphones are shit.

I'm an android guy but I don't think Iphones are that bad. The only reason I use Samsung is because I have 64gig of music all in personally named folders and iTunes is such a pita to sort them out.

zippykona - Member
I don't understand why apple can't make a range of phones.

I don't understand why apple can't make a range of phones.

Why would they put the effort into that? They've already got more money than Croesus, why the hell would they care? They aren't about giving customers what we want - they are all about pushing their own (or Jobs') vision and getting us to want that. So if Apple don't want to make a thick phone with 3 days battery life, we ain't getting one.

I don't understand why apple can't make a range of phones

Do they only make one handset now? Did I miss when that happened?
Fewer models is wise for many reasons… only really annoying a few geeks.

Since getting the 7 no more than a few months ago this is almost a weekly occurrence which drives me potty!

And yet somehow, life goes on.

The car usb thing is likely down to the cigarette adapter. Some pull way less current than others. anker is where it's at.

Apple do make several phones. Whilst as can be seen from my earlier post I am not a fan, my wife is. She has some fancy huge iphone for work which she doesn't really like as its too big but has just got herself an iphone SE as a personal phone. Its cheap small has a long battery life and 128gb memory.

Steve Jobs built Apple by putting the tech narks who criticise users back in their boxes.
He's dead the geek are back in charge. **** em I'll have my 6 till it dies then buy a Walkman and they will all be back coding for PC's.

PS I am not alone iphone sales have been down for six quarters. iPhone 6 owners are holding on for a decent phone. Crunch time now as the latest
OS update has crippled the six and there's still no phone with a headphone jack.
Hence Sony marketing the ZX.

Really pleased for the iPhone users who can get by with Bluetooth or little adaptors but many of us don't want to spring a grand then compromise.

I have been using Bluetooth headphones and in the car since having a nexus 4 and feeling that the jack was in the wrong place and I find it more convenient than being plugged in anyway. So I’m obviously in the minority of people that have not missed the headphone jack.