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I’ve just looked at the X and it’s a pretty looking device.
Best deal £939... how long before they are discounted to make way for the Xs?
Hmmmm.
So have they thrown out the standard phones' cadence; 6, 6S, 7, 7S, 8, or whatever? Is this what the XR is now. I'm a tad confused.
I've been running my 6S out of contract for a year and its FUBAR (and I've not negotiated the tarrif or gone sim only, stupidly), so I'm gonna need to upgrade soon but was expecting the 8S?
Would also be in the queue for a souped up SE. Better battery, processor, camera and waterproof would do it. Can’t stand these massive brick sized phones.
My bike doesn’t force me to update… just to keep basic functionality
My iPhone doesn't either.
Here, the important thing is - when the X came out we were told it was called the "Ten". Now the new one is ExAr. I'm a bit upset by that.
"So we've designed this electronic tag. It tracks the wearer in real time and gives a historic track of exactly where they have been and when, whilst also listening to their conversation and reporting back. Any information missed and thousands more data points will be added manually by the user, including multiple photo's of the user"
"Thats brilliant but obviously equipping all our subjects with one of these will create a huge backlash from them and also won't it be very expensive?"
"Oh don't worry - they will pay for them themselves and..really there won't be a backlash, at least not for a while.."
"they sound complicated - what if they break?"
"we'll force them to upgrade every 2 years"
"you sir are a genius"
"I haven't told you the best bit yet......It will make us more money then we can eat"
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jimdubleyou
Assuming that were true, why is it £750?
Because that’s the price the market will bear.
Yep, Apple know their clientele.
The daily mash beat me to it, but basically high phones are pretty much the same, the decision is IOS and Android.
I have the choice at work and I've just got a S9, (android these days mostly for back-country navigator) as my son dropped my S8 and smashed the screen and back in the nanosecond it was out of the case. It was the least excited I have been at getting a high-end device, as the changes are so incremental these days.
I remember getting the first Galaxy Note a few days after my son was born and I'm not sure which I was more excited about.
I know it's what the market wants but who the hell thinks that making a phone out entirely out of glass is sensible. Let's find the slippiest most fragile material and build a £1000 device that you are inevitably going to drop out of it. If I had a choice I'd like a rugged phone with the insides of the high-end device. I can't get one so I have to stick the S9 in a rugged case which defeats the object of having a shiny glass body.
Yep, Apple know their clientele.
As do Samsung (S9, £740), Google (pixel, £640) LG (V35, £800ish).
High-end phones costing a fortune is not the sole preserve of Apple...
I can’t get one so I have to stick the S9 in a rugged case which defeats the object of having a shiny glass body
Was saying this to DezBJr yesterday as he was putting his new S8 into it's rubbery container. They spend all that time designing the phones to be nice in the hand, then make them out of such fragile materials you have to put them in a case. About time their r&d went into making them a lot tougher.
High-end phones costing a fortune is not the sole preserve of Apple…
But they are the only market they really want to address.
For those that want phones in different sizes, specs and flavours just look elsewhere rather than waiting for Apple to make one.
who the hell thinks that making a phone out entirely out of glass is sensible.
Another plus point on the SE - metal sides and back!
And a headphone port!
just look elsewhere rather than waiting for Apple to make one.
Ecosystem tie in.
If you have an Apple TV and an iPad and you've already paid for a bunch of apps which you share between devices on family accounts, and media in iTunes, and the in-laws have just about got the hang of FaceTime, iMessage and Photo Stream then you have a lot of soft reasons to stay.
(Same applies going the opposite direction of course)
+1 hoping for an SE X version...
Tempted to start stock-piling SEs like Saul Goodman.
Boom!
X on its way.
Good deal from EE tempted me.
Looking forward to see my ugly mug pay for food.
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(Same applies going the opposite direction of course)
It does, but less so.
The USP for modern-day Apple these days is the ecosystem, as you say. Your iPhone, Apple TV, iPad, AirPort, MacBook etc are all designed to interoperate, and they do so very well. It's when you have to get them to play nicely with non-fruit based devices that the headaches start. If you're an iFan then the best thing you can do is invest in all Apple hardware. Which is great for the consumer (second mortgage aside) as everything Just Works generally, but of course it's also incredibly lucrative for Apple.
Going the other way though, your Android apps are useless to you on your Windows PC. You're massively reliant on multi-vendor interoperability. You're not investing in any one technology platform, you've got Google talking to Samsung talking to HP talking to Microsoft, and the fact that it works even remotely is frankly astonishing.
your Android apps are useless to you on your Windows PC.
ah! but if you get one of the latest chrome books, everything links in very nicely...
@stevextc – but nobody plays the ‘good enough for me’ game for any consumer goods…
How many people really need a i5/i7/i9 laptop with a terabbyte of storage for their emails and browsing when an i3 with 256GB would be just fine?
Well I'm typing this from a 2.4ghz Intel Core Duo... with 4MB RAM ... OH got an i3 last XMAS
How many programs does your washing machine/dishwasher have, how many get used?
How many modes does your oven/microwave have, how many get used?
Modes/programs is just a timer and heating. It's not a cost ... However these were all bought based on ability to service and how long they are likely to last except the microwave which was bought on being the cheapest available.
I guess I'm not really into "consumer goods" for the sae of them... alright we could wash clothes by hand so perhaps a bit.. but it's just a utility machine... so I ended up upgrading my iPhone4s because of 4G etc ... I guess I'm more SLX than XX0
Pretty much what Cougar says above. The big appeal of Apple stuff to me is that my iPhone, iPad, Mac, iCloud etc all communicate quite easily with each other, with little effort on my part to make it happen. Plus the software is generally fairly intuitive and easy to easy. And yes, the hardware looks and feels nice too, there's no denying it.
I don't need the latest or best of each particular product but yes, I'm certainly paying a premium for what I see as convenience and good quality kit. However it's not that huge an amount and we can afford it so are happy to pay.
I'd also say that we upgrade the hardware far less often than friends with non-Apple kit so maybe in the long run we aren't paying that much more.
And don't ever get me started on just what stinking piles of crud just about every version of Windows since XP has been.
Going the other way though, your Android apps are useless to you on your Windows PC. You’re massively reliant on multi-vendor interoperability. You’re not investing in any one technology platform, you’ve got Google talking to Samsung talking to HP talking to Microsoft, and the fact that it works even remotely is frankly astonishing.
Eh what?
Given we have a nice simple web standard we can all use to interface with the data apps hold - that is all apps are really (in a sensible world)
Having interchangeability between all the bits of hardware I have is what I expect, not a special feature.
Example being Netflix, I can stop watching something halfway through an episode on my Firestick, watch the next 10 mins on my phone, swap to my laptop and then back to a chromecast. I've been typing emails on my phone, stopped halfway through and continued on my PC in a seamless way.
have to agree with mike there, what exactly can apple ecosystem offer thats not available on my android/ windows setups
emal/spotify/netflix/browsing all sync effortlessly
what exactly can apple ecosystem offer thats not available on my android/ windows setups
Oh and I do believe Google provide all their apps for Apple free 😉
have to agree with mike there, what exactly can apple ecosystem offer thats not available on my android/ windows setups
Airdrop?
Answer/transfer calls on your PC?
TBH, it might have it, but I don't know.
Google/windows seem to have a fair bit of similar functionality these days.
Airdrop?
Answer/transfer calls on your PC?
Airdrop is just bluetooth connection, cloud sharing handles most of that for me, but file sharing is just that
Not sure on transferring calls but google hangouts is the universal comms tool (or was might have been updated), skype and the business alternative is linked through everything too
As above the web browser gives you all the functionality you need to handles most of this stuff on a desktop
Airdrop?
ShareIt & you can do it to apple stuff!
Answer/transfer calls on your PC?
Airdoid you can also use PC & Mac
it must be claustrophbic living in that insular apple world 😉
have to agree with mike there, what exactly can apple ecosystem offer thats not available on my android/ windows setups
It just works easier with Apple to Apple...
However
Which is great for the consumer (second mortgage aside) as everything Just Works generally, but of course it’s also incredibly lucrative for Apple.
Hmm... it's not just the 2nd mortgage but the 3rd, 4th and 5th.... I've got no real reason to upgrade the current 2007 iMac.or the 2006 Macbook.. (other than not being able to get a browser because it's stuck on 10.9.5)... and I could just stick linux on... (probably should) but then it no longer sits in the 'ecosystem'.
AirDrop uses Bluetooth to create a peer-to-peer Wi-Fi network between devices.
Hangouts while still functioning (quite well) has been sort of dropped in favour of Allo and the other one which probably no one actually uses.
It just works easier with Apple to Apple…
LOL how is that? It's 100% seamless here not sure how you improve on that.
what exactly can apple ecosystem offer thats not available on my android/ windows setups
An all pervading sense of smug superiority, perhaps?
somehow I still manage that
😁
Bought my first ever, and as yet only i-Device (6S - wanted to see whether I like or at least didn't hate iOS) when my S7Edge died. Works loads better on my (Google) Chromecast Audio than any of the numerous Android devices which use it.
what exactly can apple ecosystem offer thats not available on my android/ windows setups
Much less spying? Updates? Stores with Geniuses 🙂
it must be claustrophbic living in that insular apple world
I've got Windows PCs, I just hate Android 😛
Pretty much what Cougar says above. The big appeal of Apple stuff to me is that my iPhone, iPad, Mac, iCloud etc all communicate quite easily with each other, with little effort on my part to make it happen. Plus the software is generally fairly intuitive and easy to easy. And yes, the hardware looks and feels nice too, there’s no denying it.
No denying this forum just doesn’t work on iOS devices, it’s abysmal.
No denying this forum just doesn’t work on iOS devices, it’s abysmal.
Works.......
Nah doesn't matter.
Definitely getting a new XS.
My wife has my old 5 and the screen is hanging out. I have a 6 and it will pass it onto her. The question for me is which memory size? I always went for the biggest available in the (distant) past, but thinking that 512GB might be overkill? Problem is the camera might fill the memory? I have a 128GB 6 and need to manage the storage
Well not really since a 720p screen will give you an HD quality image upto about 55inches, so perfectly adequate.
That's simply not a fact.
Depends on the source, depends on the distance and the quality of the implementation.
Also do people still bother worth wired headphones on mobile devices these days?
Sod the phone, I only make calls, text occasionally email on my 5SE and its happy doing that. I wanted a new ipad pro 🙁
iPads are next month, you can probably wait that long can't you?
Another disappointed SE user, maybe something a bit smaller will appear before I need a new one.
Using my X but found the screen easily scratched.
Wife broke her 7 plus :/ she would love the big screen X. Second time she has killed it.
Might just pay for the new screen.
Crazy how much we are spending on bikes and phones.
but thinking that 512GB might be overkill? Problem is the camera might fill the memory? I have a 128GB 6 and need to manage the storage
What do you actually store?
Do you back anything up or to the cloud? The £200 quid would probably be better spent on data charges, I've been using BBC Iplayer radio heavily this month and it's hit me for 200mb so far.
Problem is the camera might fill the memory? I have a 128GB 6 and need to manage the storage
Use cloud storage and you'll suddenly have loads of space.
I get mobiles free as part of work, so the below is not based on cost. Not sure if this helps or not.
Phone before last I went to android as I fancied a change after having a new iplop device every 3 years or so since they came out.
Hated android at first but wasn't allowed to swap back, then grew to love it and the sense of freedom it has with apps and control (or just non Apple isms, if that's a thing)
Didn't get a choice this time and we all got Iplop X when they came out last year. Didn't really like it too much after the android but thought i'd get used to it.
Haven't really and it's just an iphone now. Doesn't slow down and does everything it should but, I don't feel it is any more 'special' than an iplop 7 or 8 with the button.
Fingerprint security and a home button instead of faffing to close apps when they stop working would be nice again.
Basically, I don't think I'd spend the money on a high end phone ever - android or otherwise - if I had to.
Corr blimey, when I was on the phone to EE they didn’t arf try n flog me a new iPad at the same time.. No real hard sell, but it weren’t arf a schpeal of large proportions..
My iPadAir is as new now as it was erm .. back then.
I’m looking forward to my X. It’s been a while and I’m a little excited.
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First Apple phone is my 8 plus. After 15 years of Blackberry use, I’m much less productive. Typing is abysmal. At least three years with my Passport gave me practice in carrying something large!
have An iPad mini 4 because I was fed up with the apps only working properly in iOS. The 8+ does provide good webpage scaling, the mini does not
If I could run android on my passport I’d be happy. I’ll probably get Surface Pro or Go. Looks more mybthing than the iOS.
Yep, I wanted a new SE too.
I think we reached maximum phone about a year or two ago.
We are now in a position where a £300 phone is just as good as a £1000 phone for all intents and purposes. Maybe £400.
Not that there was any such thing as a 1k phone 2 years ago.
have to agree with mike there, what exactly can apple ecosystem offer thats not available on my android/ windows setups
emal/spotify/netflix/browsing all sync effortlessly
So basically there is a choice between 2 things that do something similar but in a slightly different way and then a few others than only a handful of people like?
so a bit like tomato sauce, brown sauce etc then?
nobody is forcing you to buy all of them, surely you just buy the one you like the taste of?
They have a relatively short shelf-life and even a good one will be almost completely obsolete within 5 years.
I still use my 3GS in the car as a bluetooth music player. Battery is still pretty good. Don't plan to change my 6S until I have to - as others have said, there isn't as much to gain by upgrading these days.
Xs ordered this morning from O2.
So basically there is a choice between 2 things that do something similar but in a slightly different way and then a few others than only a handful of people like?
......
nobody is forcing you to buy all of them, surely you just buy the one you like the taste of?
Not at all but claiming one is the only one that can interface with bacon, sausages and bread is more than a little misleading
Boom!
Posting from a super quick iSHINEY 🤪👌
Ah, time for the "how do you know when someone has an iPhone?" joke.
don't worry they'll tell you about it?
A.vegan crosfitter just got the new iPhone....
Yeah, like I don’t understand.
Was that wit Cougs? Because blimey it passed me by.
The thread was a question about what upgrade I should get.. the whole point was was iPhone should I get.. y’no what iPhone should I get ??
I’m typing that out a few times because I’m not sure you understood the thread, and the question there in.
Some folks played nice and gave some decent comments, some took the piss (normal) and some went on to expand the original question.. awesome.
I just thought I’d update the thread for those thinking about major life decisions that choosing their next iPhone actually is.. a life decision, like life n deff.
Also the fact I ordered it yesterday lunchtime and it was delivered before lunch today.
I think that’s pretty cool TBH.
Boom!
See, this is more like what I was expecting from an iPhone thread.
I just thought I’d update the thread for those thinking about major life decisions that choosing their next iPhone actually is.. a life decision, like life n deff.
Apologies bikebouy, as always our thoughts and prayers are with you in these difficult times, hope you can all pull through and nobody has to resort to robbing grannies to pay for their habit #StayStrong
Your support guides me throughout my journey, each step placed feels lighter the further I travel.
And did you get a good deal?