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[Closed] Anyone think Yetis and Sasquatch are real?

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I think they a real? Anyone else? Any stories from the US or Canada etc ?
The famous 1960's footage has been proven not to be a human due to the gait in the legs ie they way the leg is bent as it walks.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 11:55 am
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I know they are real. Nessie told me.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:00 pm
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Yes, they're real


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:07 pm
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pretty much everyone on this planet now carries a high definition camera in their pocket and has the potential to record anything they see and hear.

yet, ghosts, yeti's, UFO's, bigfoots, giant lizard overlords etc remain stubbornly elusive.

makes you think eh...


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:07 pm
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Absolutely, something like that and the oversized large footprints simply cannot be faked.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:08 pm
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pretty much everyone on this planet now carries a high definition camera in their pocket and has the potential to record anything they see and hear.

yet, ghosts, yeti’s, UFO’s, bigfoots, giant lizard overlords etc remain stubbornly elusive.

Ubiquitous pocket video recorders made flying saucers disappear. Had the opposite effect on police violence to black Americans


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:14 pm
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Yep, often seen in the Malvern Hills...


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:19 pm
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etymologically the word seems to be a corruption of a ancient local word for bear. all the examples of Yeti samples that have been claimed by local peoples (fur/hair, jaw and other bones) that have had their DNA tested are all various bear species. (one was a Pleistocene species of a Polar Bear, which in of itself was interesting enough)

I think, although, y'know nothing is ever certain, that it's a bear...


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:20 pm
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I've heard they through teddies across the room and hide smoke alarms under the bed.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:25 pm
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Skoda ones maybe.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:25 pm
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has been proven not to be a human due to the gait in the legs ie they way the leg is bent as it walks.

not 'proven' I don't think - people who feel that there is 'proof' that the gait is non human do so based on speculation as to what speed / frame rate the camera was filming at. Its not about the legs being mechanically different to humans. The camera was capable of filming at several different film speeds. The camera man says he normally films at 24fps. He said in interviews in his hurry to capture the shot he may have filmed at 16fps (he actually said 18 but the camera doesn't do that). " "if the movie was filmed at 24 frame/s then the creature's walk cannot be distinguished from a normal human walk. If it was filmed at 16 or 18 frame/s, there are a number of important respects in which it is quite unlike man's gait."

If you could prove that the camera was filming at 16fps then that supports a not-human hypothesis. But you can't. That said you can't retrospectively prove that the camera was filming at 24fps either. But given a choice between 'whole new species pops up on camera 50 years ago but in an ever more populous and media connected world decides its camera shy' and 'man says dial might have been in one position rather than another' where does the balance of probabilities lie? 🙂


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:30 pm
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I'll stop believing in yetis and sasquatchis when someone comes up with definitive proof that they don't exist and until that day comes our hairy forest and mountain brethren are OK with me.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:33 pm
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I reckon that the are still many vast areas of land that are virtually unpopulated, so it is possible that large bear/humanoid animal is alive. Not thriving just surviving.

I still don't believe it exists but logically an unknown large species could exist.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 12:44 pm
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Uncontacted tribe in Amazon or Central Africa - yes
Human or neanderthal or some sort of 'missing link' crossover - yes - but experience indicates 4 to 5 feet slightly built people
In California - No, too many people. Recreational users and US army would have found them by now
In Himalayas - No - due to climate and scarce resources they will have traveled too far and been discovered by now

Very unlikely to have independently developed beyond stone (or maybe bronze) age technology and knowledge, and therefore unable to comprehend and effectively evade modern humans who are looking for them.

'Loner' species need vast areas of territory to have a chance of finding a mate and continuing species.

Further to this, upright bipedal mammals (like the 'sasquatch' on film) give birth to very underdeveloped young due to narrow hips - many years of caring for babies before they can fend for themselves makes operating as a loner impractical - group living is a necessity.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 1:19 pm
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A good lawyer should be able to sort out some trademark infringement cash for them (the yetis at least).


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 1:24 pm
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Quick recap on the famous footage:

The bloke who shot it was a known hoaxer, his witness wasn't in on it though.

The bloke in the suit admitted to it to friends before he died and his wife remembers the suit in the boot of his car.

One night of boredom and the internet many years ago, assume all this stuff is still out there. 🙂

And Don Whillans was probably pissed. ☺


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 1:25 pm
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Further on the sasquatch - possible reactions to encountering humans, a large mammal of nearly the same size as itself.
1. Attack potential competing apex predator
2. Run away (learnt experience having encountered hunters with firearms)
3. curiosity
4. indifference
But from the video he does not do no 1 - they would need a 100% kill rate to not ever be reported
Number 2 implies semifrequent encounters which never result in the hunter mentioning shooting at them
Videoed reactions implies either 3 or 4.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 1:30 pm
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I too have seen the rare Malverncestershire Sasquatch. His assimilation into society has been hugely successful - raising his own family and indeed communicating quite well with humans, when not over-tired. Accompanied, he is now allowed to travel on Easyjet as long as his vaccines are up to date. We are currently seeking reassurances from the EU that he will continue to be allowed this freedom post-Brexit.

Nah, for me, it’s all horseshit. However, for anybody interested in the folklore, or who’d like to hear some properly batty people who are convinced Sasquatch exists, there’s a quite entertaining podcast called, Wild Thing. A presenter who knows it’s bullshit but gets drawn into the world of believers. Good for a laugh.


 
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There was quite a good programme on C4 a little while back with the doctor bloke that does the animal autopsies and used to build kitcars on Discovery channel, spoiler alert but as someone said above all the evidence in every case said bear.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 1:43 pm
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I've been known to watch "Finding Bigfoot" but it's got very very repetitive.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 1:46 pm
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pretty much everyone on this planet now carries a high definition camera in their pocket and has the potential to record anything they see and hear.

Yeah but there are obvious reasons that people haven't got photos like that. A quick experiment - try and take a perfectly recognisable picture of a common, visible species. Maybe a raven. Or a less visible one like a badger. (and I'm not suggesting that you google where a local sett is and stake it out with good equipment. 🙂 )

(I'm not saying that I believe in yetis btw!)


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 1:48 pm
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I just knew I wouldn't get into this thread before the two arse'ols. You know who you are 😉

Wild thing podcast is indeed v interesting. Family history and all that...


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:26 pm
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Yes, they are real.

And they also landed on the Moon.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:35 pm
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Yetis landed on the moon?


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:37 pm
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A quick experiment – try and take a perfectly recognisable picture of a common, visible species. Maybe a raven. Or a less visible one like a badger. (and I’m not suggesting that you google where a local sett is and stake it out with good equipment. 🙂 )


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:40 pm
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Where's the raven?


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:42 pm
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You said a less visible species trying to get a photo of Stag close up isn't easy.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:44 pm
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You can do that in Richmond Park.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:48 pm
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I doubt there is a large ape like mammal managing to hide in what true wilderness is left but then again it only takes a short drive down through wigtonshire (sw-scotland - the hobbit land) to realise that not all humans are created equal.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:49 pm
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You can do that in Richmond Park.

So not hard to take a picture of a common visible animal.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 2:54 pm
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Sasquatch I am sure is nonsense. Yetis? Its possible that there is an undiscovered mammal living in the Himalayas but unlikely. Many cultures have an "undiscovered" animal in their mythology


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 3:08 pm
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I doubt many sane people think they're real. Ones off their t*ts on moonshine though, well...


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 3:13 pm
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Number 2 implies semifrequent encounters

I think one encounter would be enough.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 3:18 pm
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I have watched many bigfoot sighting videos on youtube. I honestly don't care if it exists or not I just love the videos. Nothing beats an enthusiastic American pointing to a leaf on some shaky video footage and being 100% convinced its a bigfoot. So much fun.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 3:19 pm
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Its possible that there is an undiscovered mammal living in the Himalayas but unlikely

despite what I said earlier about bears, this actually isn't as far-fetched as it may appear on first reading. There have been all sorts of mammals that have been described pretty recently from marsupials, bats, primates (one I know of that was only first described in 2008!), all sorts of stuff.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 3:44 pm
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Yes, they are real.

And they also landed on the Moon.

Impossible. The moon is a hoax


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 3:46 pm
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I know they probably aren’t real, but hope they are. I went to the Loch Ness museum thing a few years back and it was depressing. It just pisses all over the dream, bastards. They could at least try for an air of mystery.

Isn’t there a theory that the Sasquatch legend derives from Gigantopithecus?


 
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The burden of proof is on those who claim they do exist... how can you claim something dowsn’t Exist? Just because we can’t prove that Fraggles don’t exit doesn’t mean they’re any more likely to exist (hope i’ve Not just kicked off another thread!).

Where are the remains of dead ones? Ok living ones might be able to evade humans, but not dead ones. Carnivorous animals would have rooted out corpses, or even taken them down, and we would have found bones or remains at some point by now. But nothing. We find remains of animals that existed hundreds of millions of years ago, remains of early man in peat bogs and melting glaciers, but as yet Sasquaches, yeti’s and Nessy’s still elude us!


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 6:14 pm
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Yetis are probably real, but endangered. More likely to be a species of bear than a hominid.

I doubt a large hominid like Sasquatch would have found its way to North America before Homo sapiens. And even if it was real, would most likely be extinct by now.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 6:33 pm
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Yetis are probably real, but endangered. More likely to be a species of bear than a hominid.

So not a Yeti.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 6:38 pm
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Fessing up - I do listen frequntly to Sasquatch Chronicled podcasts. Perfect cure for insomnia, and I mean that in a good way. I love it. It also convinced me further that though there are most likely no such things - thst's not so much the 'thing', the 'thing' is that somewhere deep in our psyche we lost (and now see) something of the wild, the mysteries of nature, freedom, and the thrill of the unknown?


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 6:44 pm
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Yep, often seen in the Malvern Hills…

Riding an On One?


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 6:57 pm
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@Drac: As yetis haven't been described by science (meaning there isn't an example bathing in formaldehyde somewhere), no-one can say with any certainty if they are a bear, ape, or anything else. This principle applies whether they exist or not. Until one is found and properly described we don't know what evolutionary branch to assign it to.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:00 pm
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Wasn't there a Southern Yeti on here back in the day? So clearly they're real.

/thread


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:07 pm
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So if a new species of mamil is discovered it be called a yeti and that’s proof that they exist. The legend describes them as humanoids not a bear.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:18 pm
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I used to bike with a guy who’s back looked like a shag pile carpet it was so hairy !!! We nicknamed him sasquatch.

Yes from me


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:33 pm
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Oxford dictionary definition:
A large hairy creature resembling a human or bear, said to live in the highest part of the Himalayas.

Origin
1930s: apparently from a term in Sherpa (a local language) that is related to Tibetan gya ‘rocky place’ + dred ‘yellow bear, hyena’.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:34 pm
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Yeti are definitely real. They've been filmed by the BBC on numerous occasions. I think the program was Doctor Who.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:37 pm
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So if a new species of mamil is discovered

But they are normally described as large and furry, not fat and lycra clad.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:41 pm
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Yeah just noticed that autocorrect.

Maybe check the history of the Yeti stories rather than the OED version.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:42 pm
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I reckon it’s folk stories derived from an actual creature.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/467-gigantic-apes-coexisted-early-humans-study-finds.html


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:56 pm
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Yup probably from now extinct primates.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 7:59 pm
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Yeah just noticed that autocorrect.

They all say that, but especially doggers.


 
Posted : 19/12/2018 8:12 pm
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Impossible. The moon is a hoax

Balls I can see it out the window now!


 
Posted : 20/12/2018 5:58 pm
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Windows are a hoax, they are really mirrors back into a matrix.

On that bombshell...did you know that your device-screen + internet browser is also a code-breaking interface to a backed-up version of your true self? How do you know when you've found your true-self? When you view your social media profile, then realise that you don't recognise 'you' in your own selfie, and then you look out of the 'window' and it looks different. And so you smash your interface. And then The End. Or the beginning. Or just some splintered glass. You decide. Or do you? Even the conspiracy is a conspiracy.

I like cake. Nurse! ...


 
Posted : 20/12/2018 6:26 pm
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Someone has started the egg Nog already.


 
Posted : 20/12/2018 6:32 pm
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A little like that bloke recently saying he had photographed Nessie - what on a 1900's camera... picture was shocking.


 
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Balls I can see it out the window now!

thats no moon


 
Posted : 20/12/2018 6:54 pm

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