A question. I’m a Scout Leader and was wondering how you practice casualty evacuation from a wooded/inaccessible area.
If you use volunteers to act as the casualties would it be possible to use a Scout or a Scout Leader (assuming that all of the RAs etc allow it)?
Would give the kids an insight in to what you do and could be incorporated into your training.
Just an idea…
I know @WelshFarmer is in cave rescue, i'd be very surprised if there weren't any MRT folks on here. Got a mate in Kinder MRT I can ask in the unlikely case you don't get an amswer here
@GregMay is but not sure if he still posts on here. Can be found over on BearBones.
We use team members as casualties, I'm still a trainee (assessment in march) so don't know for sure if we could use non team members tbh, but I'd be surprised if you asked to set up a session and were told no tbh.
A mate of mine is a casualty this weekend in the Lomond hills for SARDA, and he's no affiliation to them at all, so sure it would be possible.
I can ask our training lead if you want, no worries.
@Franksinatra is MRT IIRC.
I can ask our training lead if you want, no worries.
If you wouldn't mind that would be great!
Hi Andrew. Might be worth dropping Bolton MRT a line. I think they are your closest. tl@boltonmrt.org.uk
Gimme 5 mins mate
Hi Andrew.
Whoooah now. Harry's called Andre, not Harry? WTAF?!
Thanks Simon, one of the other guys is doing that today but I don't know if he is asking whether we could be part of an exercise. I just wanted to float it on here as I know a few MRT are lurking.
Whoooah now
Yeah. Harry the Spider was in an advert for Cadbury's Chocolate Fingers. Sorry to disappoint.
Mind.
Blown.
If you wouldn’t mind that would be great!
No answer mate, he's usually on the ball, mibbe on a call out!
Whoooah now. Harry’s called Andre!
No, you're thinking of Dr Dre. It is surprisingly easy to mix them up.
Andre the giant spider?
Shhh. Tell nobody.
But it's already all over the web...
I am Deputy Team Leader at Calder Valley MRT - we only use over 18's for Casualty Training / Search Dogs now, usually they are from our own team "supporters" now as well. For more risky steep ground / crag training, we usually use a weighted rescue mannikin, rather than placing a human at unnecessary risk.
We do support Scouting etc, and run open evenings explaining our work, showing kit and allowing scouts to be placed into stretchers, meet the search dogs etc but usually at the confines of our base. Whilst I can't vouch for other local teams I also sit on the Mid Pennine Search and Rescue panel and most of them follow a similar stance.
Visits have been restricted at present due to Covid protocols.
Hope that Helps.
Me & my mate were rescued but Torridon MR once.
That’s no help to Harry/Andrew. Sorry.
Me & my mate were rescued but Torridon MR once.
Hope you were over 18. They only rescue over 18's now cos of CRB, elf n safety n all that...
Approx 20 years ago I was a member of 1st Mytholmroyd scouts and I vividly remember us doing some sessions like @richardoftod describes.
One thing is really suggest is hammer home how to call for/get help properly. Far too many people who do active stuff don't know how to do it
Andrew, response from my guy below.
Hi Greg
Used Scouts in the past when my son was a Scout. Scouts were covered with their own insurance and we made sure there was always a Callout member with them. It does bring an different dimension to our treatment of and as long as common sense approach taken then it's something I personally support. Team members of the future!
Thanks for the answers.
Local RNLI look for volunteers in helping to assist in casualty rescue from various situations, may also be an option.
Local RNLI look for volunteers in helping to assist in casualty rescue from various situations, may also be an option.
I think the Sea Scouts do stuff with RNLI, but as above small talks rather than put anyone into risky situations.
A very good idea all the same. Better than the idea we came up with when I helped out when in the ventures. We went to a police black museum. Not the ideal place given many of the lads were of cub age.
Would give the kids an insight in to what you do
Just take the group out on the hills in a shitty day and call for help. Then they will see 1st hand. 👍
Would give the kids an insight in to what you do
Just take the group out on the hills in a shitty day and call for help. Then they will see 1st hand. 👍
Every chance they won't see a thing, a lot of people who are lost on a hill, with no actual injuries etc, are talked off said hill via mobile phone.
Better idea is to organise a session with your local team at an accessible local crag or similar for a few hours, then you'll get members who want to help, not guys who are called away from families or work for no reason really.
I’m in my local team, and we have done training exercises with the scouts here, seemed well received- the last one was a multi casualty incident on the lower slopes of catbells, and they enjoyed the full gore of stage make up and prosthetic injuries!
I’m in my local team, and we have done training exercises with the scouts here, seemed well received- the last one was a multi casualty incident on the lower slopes of catbells, and they enjoyed the full gore of stage make up and prosthetic injuries!
Exactly what I was thinking of!
Slight aside but I'd really like to be involved in either the MR, RNLI or Fire Service Reserve. But Where I live is just that bit too far from all 3 to be useful for them. Anyone involved know the maximum distance you can live and/or work and still be a member? I guess if I was really motivated I'd have searched it out myself.....
Convert, where do you live? Lots of areas have lowland team’s and not all teams require you live near base, just within their operational area.
In answer to OP, in my team we work with scouts/air cadets/DofE every now and again. They fund raise for us and we do their first aid training or a visit to base. COVID has stalled that slightly. Best thing is to just ask.
Convert- for our team you need to live in the operating area and <15 mins drive from base, others, especially those covering large areas, will vary.
I recall being lowered in a stretcher into Devil's Gorge/Pulpit near Killearn as a 14 year old as part of an abseiling course by Sandy someone around 35 years ago.
I seem to recall he made free use of the Fintry? Lomond MRT stretchers and equipment for this even though it was part of his business.
Well dodgy both from a COI point of view and also since the casualty and stretcher bearer were being lowered into a 30m vertical gorge by my mate and one other complete Newby from a tree and a dodgy fence post.
Convert, where do you live? Lots of areas have lowland team’s and not all teams require you live near base, just within their operational area.
Ferness in the Highlands - between Grantown and the Coast.
