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Now you clicked on this thinking wtf is that.
They are the slightly less safe slightly slower considerably smaller version of a car.
So your Renault twizzy and your Citroen Ami amongst other less known models.
I noted the twizzy about 10 years ago in a trip to France. But also that the G1 was crippled with a French teenager friendly 30mph cap.
I see in the UK we get a G2 with 50mph top speed and a 62mile (52 mile real world apparently) range.
Anyone actually tried to live with one? On paper it would cover about 95% of my journeys(where I have time constraints that mean my ebike is not suitable* due to the 15mph max speed) of the *second* car more so than a BEV would of our main car. But there's a nagging doubt that the lack of heating / 50 mile range would get to me long term.....
And of course they can't take a child seat.
But I'm still more than curious*.... Anyone know why Renault don't have any demonstrators ? Are they not supposed to sell them or do they sell like hotcakes without demos daan south.....I've seen one up here in like 10 years ...
* Work mandating a more modern vehicle for client visits than my 90......and let's face it if they are willing to pay then they can be right.....
Just do a commuter share advert and something will turn up*
* ^^ That's for making me click on this thread 🙂
There is also that issue ....
With the best will in the world- you'll never look any better than that photo in one 🙂 - but you've all seen my ebike...I don't care
I think that these look a good idea but the Twizzy is 12 grand (and half height doors cost extra) and you can get a new very small and cheap proper car for a lot less (basic Dacia is 8 grand new but doors and heater are included). I didn't win one in Autotraders draw to win one so bought my FILs 12 year old Kia Ceed from him for 400 which was much more like my available cash and what he was offered part ex by a dealer.
We did look when replacing my wife's car and you can get a 'proper' second hand electric car with 100 mile range for under 10 grand making the Twizzy just too pricey.
Ami looks good and at 6 grand new a believable price but the range is less and 45 kph is just not viable outside town.
Long story short: second hand regular electric car is probably a better bet and for most of us just second hand car more realistic for now.
If I win the electric Corsa from Autotrader this month then I'll sell you a Kia (worlds most boring car but it was cheap and it works at present)
We did look when replacing my wife’s car and you can get a ‘proper’ second hand electric car with 100 mile range for under 10 grand making the Twizzy just too pricey.
What are you getting for 10 grand all I'm seeing is firstgen outdated stuff or high milage . Demands gone through the roof.
It's +15k for anything current can get a used twizy for 7k
The other option is a cheap 1l box but that seems wrong and the economics choice.
Oh and it's not just emissions. There is also the space taken by even a 1l box. It is taking up alot of space to move me and my lunch to work and then round 2 or 3 other offices and generally sit being empty
This is like what we looked at(OK speculated about). 100 mile range wasn't quite enough for some of her regular day to day trips so bought a petrol one similar age for 2/3 price. Was 2 1/2 months ago so demand may be more daft again now.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107225318438?advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=Ts6%201ab&model=SOUL&page=1&make=KIA&co2-emissions-cars=TO_0&include-delivery-option=on&sort=relevance
This is I guess a first generation electric car but bigger range than a Twizzy and doors for less cash but older.
PS I agree with the space taken up but and Aygo or Smart isn't much bigger, and doors are included.
PPS or just face that electric cars are in short supply but stay small and go petrol:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/cars/microcar
PS I agree with the space taken up but and Aygo or Smart isn’t much bigger, and doors are included.
1/3rd bigger in both directions really.
An IQ might have worked but production stopped in 2014.
Citroen are considering bringing the AMI to the UK. I’ve put my name down for info if they do - it would be perfect for many of our town needs. In France the have a lease deal with is something like £99 per month or so.
I think Twizys are great. But they just don't make economic sense to buy unless you're using them for advertising or because you really want lots of folk to look at you. Too expensive and they're also the only model in the current Renault EV range to need a monthly battery lease on top of whatever you pay to buy it - new or second hand.
they’re also the only model in the current Renault EV range to need a monthly battery lease on top of whatever you pay to buy it – new or second hand.
historically .
as of 2020 they are battery owned.
Also a couple of aftermarket(upgrades- double KWH into same package) options if you can find one with an end of life battery
Renault are largely letting you buy out the lease on old ones quite reasonably now that business models finished
I tend to agree - twizy is expensive for what you get no doubt. and was worse with a 49 quid a month battery lease - but then so is a current gen zoe or leaf given what you get - the other way to go is do what WCA has done and buy a first gen cheap as chips and accept it only does 35 miles.
how ever - It is pretty much cost free once bought with minimal servicing / no tax / 1.20 to charge.
The flip side is - given the lack of them , Once you buy your comitted as above people are fixated on the doors being optional and the windows being zip up. They aint popular . 2 seat cars have to be fast to be popular.
A scooter makes lots of sense for 8 months of the year but id rather have 4 wheels the other 4 months.
Registered interest in the Ami but they would have to do what they have done with the twizy and give it a 50mph top speed for uk. 28mph is poor - range is also poor. IT loses a lot of the twizys parking advantages too (3 twizzys comfortably to an on street space of an STW issue octavia )
ITs a strange market to balance but if in the uk we wont commit to mopeds and bicycles as personal transport then it is a good option - the car is a terrible personal transport option there's no doubt about that.
28mph is poor – range is also poor.
Not for round here - 20mph zones to a 30mph down back into a 20mph zone. Average road speeds probably well below that too. As a tool to replace a car for very short journeys when you can't use a bike, it would work well for us.
I have a stretch of open NSL from my house only 1km.
I would not like to be doing 28mph along there as a rolling road block it's bad enough on a bike.
But yeah most folk living in a city there it would work well.