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Looks like the ultimate tight arse mountainbiker's company car. Good economy (amazing on a shortish commute), tiny BIK tax, massive load area, cheap to lease, 4x4 etc etc. OK, so it's not German and the interior looks a bit low rent. Very tempted when the time comes to change. I reckon it would save me about £1500 a year compared to by current car in tax and fuel. Anyone already got one?
We have two at work. They are nice cars, well built but not limousines, big boot with loads of room for stuff. The tax advantages are great as a company car (for company and employee) and if kept full charged with electrikery stuff will give good mpg. really long runs without a charge will give as little as 30 mpg.
I'd have one.
Thinking about one to replace out Freelander in a couple of years. Looking a friends outgoing style diesel and the interior space is a lot bigger. Just a shame you have to remove the tow bar to drop the lower boot door. edit: scratch that, new one has no split.
She did say the sat nav was pants though so try it before you select it if it's an option. Newer version one might be better.
MPG without charge sounds like a downside mt.
Seem to recall the old model used to be advertised as the lowest emissions/tax of it's class. One came up on a recent Autotrader search when I was playing around the other night, quite tempted.
I've got a 60 plate Outlander. I bought it because I wanted a car big enough to get a family in for 3 weeks mountain biking/camping. I've taken four big bikes and four adults to the Lakes, Scotland & the Alps (with a roof box). Its not the new PHEV but the diesel is economical (with bikes on the tow bar). Driving is comfortable, car's reliable (good old Japanese) and fellow bikers have commented on much room there is for rear passengers. I'm keeping it until the wheels fall off.
MPG without charge sounds like a downside mt.
Yes, I think like any petrol hybrid, if you're doing lots of long runs above 70mph, they end up being less economical than a good diesel. It's s big heavy brick of a car too. Most of my driving is around town, or on 50mph country trundles though. If I charge it up every night I reckon I'd get about 1000 miles on my average tank full.
Former boss had a 58 reg diesel one. Nice to sit in. Went well. He did have a box in his garage full of bits of trim that fell off it, though.
really long runs without a charge will give as little as 30 mpg.
Jeez - on a long run, I get 35mpg out of my 3.0l V6, 3 tonne (with tools) pick-up
Got the 2.2 diesel diamond spec 08 plate. It's awesome. 5 blokes on a weeks climbing (camping) trip to Font and get 36mpg. Trim fell off.... Dodgy batch of adhesive apparently, sorted under warranty. 4 bikes in the back, front wheel off, seats down. Or stick them all on the roof.
A shit service caused an oil leak that had had numerous knock on effects, clutch, DMF, gearbox!!!! So far shit service man has foot the bill. It has left me a little wounded as otherwise it's the ultimate car (for me). However, 8 years on for this model and there were no recon gear boxes around as "they just don't break". Registered with dealers and breakers nationwide, a month wait and sorted..... Touch wood.
When I change I'll get the smaller ASX and a van.
They didn't make the PHEV in 2008 did they?
No, 2.2 Diesel. Thought comments practicalities and build quality might be useful since there probably aren't many phevs out there yet.
Out of interest is your mpg standard or is you're one mapped? A mate has the 2.5d and gets nowhere near that. But he did like your new storage when I showed him the pics!
The thing is to charge it at night and if poss when you are at work. We are having charge point fitted at the office. One of the chaps that has one always parks in the charge up bay at the services to inject the battery juice, its free (for now).
Have had Mitsubishi's in the past and found the build quality very good plus being reliable.
No, 2.2 Diesel. Thought comments practicalities and build quality might be useful since there probably aren't many phevs out there yet.Out of interest is your mpg standard or is you're one mapped? A mate has the 2.5d and gets nowhere near that. But he did like your new storage when I showed him the pics!
Fairy muff 😉
Standard - my comment was a bit for effect really, although the pic below was after 150 miles - I average anywhere between 28 & 33 usually depending on driving style/scenario. 25mpg is really caning it territory though. The auto box being 7 speed helps. My 2.5 was a little bit more efficient than the 3.0 on a run though. The computer is accurate btw - checked with full tank/mileage
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I've got a phev. Done 6000 miles since sept so plenty of motorway miles. I really like it. The techy nerd in me likes all the engineering in it such as the way it mixes between three drive modes, all local journeys with no petrol use (getting harder in winter as it wants to fire the engine more for heat ) regen paddles, phone app to put defrost or heating on etc.
The mpg thing is incredibly hard to state as an average for the car as its so specific to the user. If you commute 20 miles and can charge at work you're in the sweet spot and lots of people are getting +1000 miles out of a small 45l tank!!! I was bever going to get that but I am getting 45mpg for my mix of journeys but I'm driving normally not like an Eco evangelical.
plus when you factor in 5% for comparison to dearer diesel plus much cheaper lease compared to my last diesel estate plus massive BIK reduction it all stacks up for me.
It drives nicely and I'm charging at home each night (you need a tethered point as faffing with ext leads was a pain) pus occasional ecotricity service points.
The sat nav and menu system is a bit pants mind you.
How much does it cost to charge them up on average?
That's outstanding for a truck STR! This new PHEV sounds promising too....
It is decent for a big heavy 4x4 isnt it.
About a £1 per charge maybe slightly more. You should really dial that into running costs to give Mpge but life is too short. I'm also starting to plug in a parents and friends and insisting on giving them the pound. Not sure on the etiquette That helps ev usage proportions
I don't but a mate is waiting for his lease to turn up.
As said, mpg very dependent on usage. If you're just pounding along empty motorways all day then a diesel will do better, but even on a longer trip then using the battery sensibly (getting to the motorway and up to speed, or in the inevitable motorway jam) and it saves loads of fuel. The engine can just be for when you're at a cruise. Seek out the charging points at the services or at car parks when you're out and get a boost for the trip home.
Really looking forward to more vehicles like this becoming available - most manufacturers have something coming soon.
Just driven 20 miles into York and its pretty good when you see 95mpg on trip.
Btw, the base model (with a 3 in the name) doesn't have an electric heater, the one up (4 in the name) does. So it doesn't need to run the engine to heat the cabin, and you can also control the heater from your phone so it's warm when you get in 😀
I've got the 4 but if it's really cold it still fires the engine when you start up. Eco button helps to switch to Leccy heater quicker tho.
Edit hence why this mornings trip registered some small petrol use.
How are you finding the interior as a place to spend lots of time pedland? Having switched from a Prius to a merc last time, I've got used to a more solid feel. I think I'll find all the other benefits help me get over it, but would you say you've liked it more or less as time has gone on?
Last two cars were a BMW 5 and Honda accord and it's more like the Honda in terms of interior plastics. But the seats are leather and heated and the steering wheel is nice. I've improved it with some eBay pocket mats and carpet mats which improve the feeling of softness a bit.
It's a really comfortable ride though without being too wallowy albeit its never going to go round corners like the Beemer. Even more so with some weight in the car.