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Bit of a stretch on here I know, but....
The specced 4.4 V8 diesel Range Rovers I really want circa 2019 are still fetching 50k and insurance premiums have gone ridiculous this year
Thinking of setting sights a bit lower. 2020 Touareg 3l TSI (340 bhp) with all the toys can be had for under 40k with low miles
Any experience?
Owned 2 both bloody brilliant. Great on the motorway, driven to alps and back frequently. They’re wide cars so parking can be fun but honestly the comfiest, easiest motor I’ve ever driven. Make sure you get air suspension makes a big difference.
You'll need about £5k to £10k to insure a RR before it gets stolen within a few days.
You’ll need about £5k to £10k to insure a RR before it gets stolen within a few days

What's the excess on that policy? Some of them are around £5k to £10k depending on car value and post-code.
£1k
It's right there, under the big green button marked More Details...
As it's a Range Rover I assume the price for Breakdown Cover is monthly?
Very wide vehicles for the narrow lanes of the road rage capital of Derbyshire!
Very wide vehicles for the narrow lanes of the road rage capital of Derbyshire!
I'll cope, my caravan is 8' wide
Checkout Darkside Developments. They have one and abuse it on Green lanes. Lots of videos on YouTube about it.
They used to be known for ridiculously expensive tyres. Some weird size or something. Probably not an issue now.
Who has £40k to spunk on a four year old car? Do I live in an alternate universe?
Who has £40k to spunk on a four year old car? Do I live in an alternate universe?
No, read the retirement thread. We're a diverse group.
Who has £40k to spunk on a four year old car? Do I live in an alternate universe?
We’re a diverse group.
See my £500 bangernomics thread for the alternative budget version! (Same car different badge)
https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/porsche-500-bangernomics/
Do you need an off roader? I bet a 535D has all the grunt and has more normal running costs whilst being able to go round bends.
I’ve driven a couple of Touaregs, lovely things to actually be in, but I can’t possibly comment on day-to-day usage and running costs. I’ve driven a couple of Audi Q7’s, and those bloody things are monsters! Manoeuvering the damned things around the narrow lanes of the south-western counties of England isn’t something I’d want to do on a day-to-day basis.
Do you need an off roader? I bet a 535D has all the grunt and has more normal running costs whilst being able to go round bends.
Unless there’s 3mm of snow on the ground, in which case it’s a driveway Princess. Front wheel drive beats rear wheel drive under most circumstances. Previous place of employment, my boss had a BMW something like that, he lived fairly close to the business, the moment we had any snow at all he walked to work, he couldn’t get the Beemer off the drive, because it had a slight slope.
And I’m not exaggerating.
Unless there’s 3mm of snow on the ground, in which case it’s a driveway Princess. Front wheel drive beats rear wheel drive under most circumstances. Previous place of employment, my boss had a BMW something like that, he lived fairly close to the business, the moment we had any snow at all he walked to work, he couldn’t get the Beemer off the drive, because it had a slight slope
That’s just down to the U.K. habit of having summer tyres on cars from new and replacing like with like.
With snow tyres cars cope ok in snow.
I suppose your point is that AWD and ‘off-road’ looks or RWD cars have no luck with traction if you’ve got the wrong tyres for the conditions.
Edit. I remember an engineer in Muncich who told me his mum had an AWD Audi and its winter performance was woeful compared with his bmw with winter tyres.
I’ve driven a couple of Audi Q7’s, and those bloody things are monsters! Manoeuvering the damned things around the narrow lanes of the south-western counties of England isn’t something I’d want to do on a day-to-day basis.
They're basically the same car. I don't think they'd drive particularly differently
Owned a toureg escape for about 18 months. It was a beast with a 3lt v6 with endless amounts or torque, so would easily tow a caravan (I didn't tow with it, but the guy i sold it to wanted it for a horse box). I loved driving it but did feel a bit guilty about it's fuel consumption (30mpg average) on the commute to work. Great driving position, etc. As someone mentioned above, if it's for a caravan I'm sure there are cheaper options for the 95% of the time you're not towing, but the heart wants what the heart wants i guess! The main negatives other than fuel was big repair bills, one of the reasons i sold it. Nothing is cheap to repair on it. Also recommend oil changes every 10k.