[Closed] Anyone but Murray...

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Your English.

You mean english idiot 😀

C'mon Tim!

falkirk-mark - Member
You're English.

Yes, you guessed it, I am an Englishman living in Scotland.

To be honest I do hope he does well and my original post was meant to be tongue in cheek 😀

I am just getting bored hearing about him all the time when everyone knows he isn't going to win it 😉

Who cares about [s]Tim[/s]Andy when Pippa's bum was there too?

but handsome and with a sparkling personality and the ability to woo women, judging by his other half. Oh and he makes a bit of money but that's not important in true love.

Don't mind him to be honest. He doesn't have the common touch with the media, true - but he's also not the usual anodyne UK sports celebrity who gives fawning, simpering interviews. He tries to be himself and doesn't seem to give a fk about pandering to the heat magazine readership.

I am just getting bored hearing about him all the time when everyone knows he isn't going to win it

Sort of like England in the World Cup then?

I think Andrew should just admit that it's NEVER going to be a beard and get on to STW Chat Forum to find out what razor is best for him...

[i]GET IN![/i] lycra lout.

He needs a shave I know that the scruffy homme!

I like him. He's by far the best player Britain (certainly Scotland) has produced in a long time, he has a very good chance of winning it this time round, and he's himself, says what he thinks.

He might be very talented but also humourless atmosphere vacuum.

Tsonga gets my vote for the title after yesterdays amazing performance.

I'm sorry but I can't stand the bloke, his whole attitude irritates me, just my opinion like but i turn the tv off when he's playing.

I kinda like him, he can knockaballaboutabit so you can't diss him for that, he's focused on his game, clean and healthy.

He does need a stylist though, that fluff and wild hair thing..
Sooooo Nooooo..

Is this another case of setting the guy up for a fall? It's a strange trait that helps to build the poor guy to be successful then the moment he can achieve something in come the detractors.

I couldn't care a less if he's succsesful or not, its his attitude (and he looks like a scruff)

Shut up will ya!

Pippa's bum is sooooo overrated . . . .

it's just the bum of a skinny woman . . . . . .

According to the missus . . . 😀

I am becoming so bored of hearing about Andy Murray

Well I'm becoming bored of people whining about him.

British sportsman with bags of talent and commitment, and a shot at the big(ger) time. Brilliant 🙂

I don't see anything wrong with his attitude. Ok so he's a bit bland at post-match interviews but he clearly hates doing it, and I probably would to. Just finished 2-3 hours of psychologically demanding sport and some simpering pillock shoves a mic in your face and asks you idiotic questions.

I love how the English fans treat the UK tennis champions.

Build up Henman and then knock him down when he doesn't win...Murray?...just knock him down.

And you wonder why the Scots have something against you?

Murray is a talented, successful sportsman who doesn't feel the need to trot out false platitudes in order to make less talented and successful people like him.

yeah, because modern day sport of any type is not media driven is it.....

Look at Federer's interview after he lost yesterday, calm, collected and full of sportsmanship for the chap who just battered him for three sets. It's not jumping on the bandwaggon, its just my opinion.

I think he comes across really well now - and I feel kinda bad for not liking him when he first came on the scene because of his way in interviews... he was only 18, why should he have been smooth and media savvy?!

why should he have been smooth and media savvy?!

I was proud of him for not having shaved when he met the royal couple, shame he ruined it by bowing to them 8)

I propose an Andy Murray grand-slam-count-in-running totaliser.

I'm happy to take on the task for now:

TOTAL TO DATE: zero

next update shortly 😀

He is a very gifted tennis player, he doesn't need to be anything else.

He speaks his mind and is not much different to any other 24 year old in that respect. His dedication to improving his game however should be a real inspiration.

Tsonga winning the title this year would make me smile...

He reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite! Even the voice is identical!

And you wonder why the Scots have something against you?

because they are jingoistic and full of their own self importance?
only i think you find most of the rest of the U.K. don't really really care about jocks thumping their chests, it's this indifference that seems to annoy them though 🙂

I'm sure all the STW Murray-haters have wonderful media friendly personalities, are clean shaven, handsome and always say what you don't actually believe to make people you don't know like you more 🙄

trying to decide if 100thidiot is serious.

Yes media saturation of a sporting event can be tiresome but wimbledon hasn't topped football levels yet so I'm not too bothered.

Wonders what the footy fans would say if TdF completely saturated the media a la world cup frenzy....

STW Murry-haters

I'm just a STW tennis-hater, I don't discriminate because of his unfortunate nationality, he can't help that 😉

i'll level with you. i hope he loses cos he's a jock.

just like the jocks that want england to lose at football.

nothing wrong with that. perfectly normal.

just like the [s]jocks[/s] [b]non-english across the globe[/b] that want england to lose at football.

no one likes us, we don't care.

I'm sure all the STW Murray-haters have wonderful media friendly personalities, are clean shaven, handsome and always say what you don't actually believe to make people you don't know like you more

I'm further sure that everyone on STW is ranked considerably higher than number 4 in the world at their chosen sport.

It's always the same isn't it - massive media coverage of "oh yes he can do it, come on and get behind the British underdog" followed rapidly by "oh no, he's failed, he's shit, why did anyone let him near sport in the first place, let's kick him a bit more"

I'm just waiting for that to happen with Bradley Wiggins in the TdF...
🙄

in the world at their chosen sport

I've chosen a sport? - Why wasn't I told?

I do find it interesting how many people dislike Murray. He is a pretty bland character to me but vaguely interesting with his flaws

He got badly bitten by the media in the past and now is somewhat cagey with them.

I don't know why he arouses such strong feelings in folk tho

I agree with Markie's sentiments on the last page.

It was quite funny watching him yesterday being interviewed alongside Rory Mcilroy. Rory Mcilroy said he and Murray shared 'common interests'. Murray looked quite sheepish about that one.

Stop picking on me!

I don't know why he arouses such strong feelings in folk tho

because he represents the ludicrous situation whereby english people are expected to simultaneously support britishness and accept anti english feeling from the celts.

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He is a comedy genius, I thought this very clever

“The problem with superstitions is that you become very attached to them,” he explained. “Then, if you go in the same shower and someone’s in it, you’re obviously not going to jump in there. Well, you could, but I choose not to.’’

He is a pretty bland character to me

In the interviews, perhaps - I read his twitter feed and some other articles, he seems like a normal bloke. I'd chat if I met him on a bike ride.

Mr Murray taught me a valuable lesson a couple of years ago. In individual sports I now tend to support the competitior that I most admire rather than support by nationality. That might be influenced by their style of play, their ethics and sportsmanship and I suppose their "personality". I found this enormously refreshing - I now follow sportsmen and women that I truely admire regardless of nationality.

In the case of tennis that means Nadal for me.

To be fair to Murray he now seems a much more personable chap than he did. If someone could work on his winning smile and chatty interview persona a little more I'm sure he would be a lot richer than he already is.

If he really wanted to gain the admiration of the whole country (not saying he does) she should do the following:

- At the end of a massive rally or realy tense tie break, scream at the top of his lungs 'COOOOOOME OOOOOON TIIIIIIMMMM'

- Then win Wimbledon.

I'd settle for just the first point.

I'm actually number 3 in the world at throwing a telegraph pole about a foot away

I read somewhere that he has earned £16 million in prize money so far - wouldn't have thought he needed to get much more "media-friendly".

In the case of tennis that means Nadal for me.

I've not seen Nadal be any more interesting than Murray in post match interviews.

I support my national competitors, but I also support other people based on the same criteria as you convert - and for me that means Federer.. and now Tsonga too 🙂

if (and it's quite a big if) Tsonga plays like he did in the last three sets yesterday I can't even see Nadal having a chance.

I'm happy for all 4 of them now left in to win. It would be good to see Murray do it though (and Lisicki in the ladies)

I like watching Federer play - that backhand is genius/poetry but he does seem a bit of a non-personality, even among the other "electric" players

I'm also supporting underdogs, as is the british way, so here's to a Murray vs Tsonga final

trailmonkey - Member

because he represents the ludicrous situation whereby english people are expected to simultaneously support britishness and accept anti english feeling from the celts.

Apart from that is not the real position. If it was he wopuld not be photographed withteh Union Flag. he is a Patriotic Scotadn a brit,

Its been created by the press mainly the Daily wail. Henman teased him about Scotland not qualifying for the world cup.

so if you don't accept anti english xenophobia, you are a daily mail reader ? that really doesn't make a lot of sense.

as far as i'm concerned murray said what he said because it's culturally acceptable to be xenophobic towards the english. he's been back tracking ever since.. there is a feeling of anti englishness in all of the celtic nations and you've even alluded on here to being bullied because of it.

it's culturally acceptable to be xenophobic towards the english

^ this

that backhand is genius/poetry

most of Federers shots are genius/poetry. There are not many other players that cause past masters to come out just to watch them like he does/did.

At least Tsonga played a couple of single handled backhands which was encouraging.

I've not seen Nadal be any more interesting than Murray in post match interviews.

What I like about Nadal is the sheer hard work he puts into training (they all do, but he is considered the hardest working); the sportsmanship - have you noticed how whenever he looses he always is full of praise for whomever beat him rather than coming up with excuses as well as wishing them luck; and his general ambasador to the sport nature. Apparently he rang up the director of Queens after he lost to appologise for his performance and say that he did not mean to disrespect the event by being so tired (he had just finished at the French the day before queens started). Class.

Maybe so, but the english don't appear to recognise the effort that has been put in previously in order to achieve this level of xenophobia.

Trailmonkey - that simply is not what happened in this case. It does happen for sure but Murray is simply not guilty of it. Listen to what Henman says - he was there.

Some do Don - I understand how the British Museum has become world famous

It's been done to death why Murray said what he said about "anyone but England". It was banter, you know, a joke??

For me, I want England to lose at football but couldn't care less in other sports. In fact, strangely enough, tend to support them when it comes to the cricket and the Ashes, etc. Not so bothered about Rugby these days I don't mind either way if they win or lose now that Scotland are so crap at the sport!

The football thing isn't to do with anti-Englishness - it's more to do with a combination of probably envy - since my team don't qualiy these days - and wanting to see all the smug pundits and over-hyped players get a wake-up call when they realise that 'The Golden Generation' are actually second rate international underachievers who 'over achieve' at domestic level due to the amount of ludicrously overpaid foreign talent imported to the league.

Watch ESPN classic and things like the English Euro 96 team or the 1990 Italia 90 squad or Mexico 86 - they would piss allover the 2010 group. English football is all image (can't bring myself to use the word 'style'!)over substance and it pleased me no-end to see them get a footballing lesson from the Jerries in South Africa last year 🙂

as far as i'm concerned murray said what he said because it's culturally acceptable to be xenophobic towards the english

Daft.

It was just ribbing between friends. Obviously.

Does anyone who is Scottish think otherwise?

it's culturally acceptable to be xenophobic towards the english

No, it's culturally acceptable to have a bit of rivalry between two close nations. Too many people fail to see the difference between rivalry and xenophobia and immediately tar everything as xenophobia.

Maybe so, but the english don't appear to recognise the effort that has been put in previously in order to achieve this level of xenophobia.

its very convenient for xenophobes to generalise. not all english people are longhanks incarnate. in fact the vast majority of us in england have been shafted by the aristocracy as much as those in the other corners of these islands have.

It does happen for sure but Murray is simply not guilty of it. Listen to what Henman says - he was there.

just sounds like his mate trying to dig him out of a hole. of course if scotland had have qualified for the world cup, murray - a patriotic scot - wouldn't dream of supporting england's opponents in every game 🙄

Aristocracy in Benidorm? Engurland away? 😉

Trailmonkey is going for this month's TJ award of desperate arguing and bonkers points of view 🙂

What really surprises me is english football fans not getting behind the germans, their friendly european neighbours.

What really surprises me is english football fans not getting behind the germans, their friendly european neighbours.

Look what happened when we supported them on their Czechoslovakian tour of 1938/39

Poor trailmonkey,are you feeling unloved and picked on? Two words that justify any amount of this anti-English feeling you claim to encounter

[b]IAIN WRIGHT[/b]

Im English. I want Murray to win. Tennis is really related to my thoughts on other sports.

What time is he due to play?

Will he have to wait for the other semi-final to finish before his starts meaning you can't say that it will start at 4pm for example?

Someone who's not Murray:

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/is-anyone-watching-the-womens-game-this-week

^^^^

Damn youtube is blocked at work.

I now tend to support the competitior that I most admire rather than support by nationality

What does it mean, in practical terms, to "support" a tennis player you only see on TV? Is it just a shorthand for saying that you shout at the telly when that person is on?

What's wrong with just watching the game? (*)

Obviously different rules apply for wimmins tennis. I am supporting Maria Sharapova. Or she is supporting me, more accurately ...

give the kid a break he had a scary childhood, went to the school in dunblane where the massacre occured.

I'm English and I always want England to lose at World Cups. Don't have to put up with the rubbish on TV about how it could be our year, we have a chance and all that rubbish then.

To me, nationality is irrelevent. I want Andy Schleck to win the tour, not because of where he's from but because I think he's the best riding and exciting to watch. Murray wouldn't be where he is without being a fantastic tennis player, who cares whether he can hold a conversation with the press or has a shave.

on't have to put up with the rubbish on TV about how it could be our year, we have a chance and all that rubbish then

You know, you don't HAVE to put up with it anyway....

If he wins today he is a Scottish legend , If he loses he goes back to being a Hibby ****. Good luck Andy .