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 taka
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Hi,

does anyone know the best place for marine charts for whitby and surrounding coastline?

had a look on the internet but not much has come up

Cheers tom
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Posted : 30/10/2012 11:38 pm
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Not liking the look of your mast.


 
Posted : 30/10/2012 11:44 pm
 taka
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bit ugly isn't it lawn needs mowing as well


 
Posted : 30/10/2012 11:45 pm
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Try googling "Admiralty Charts" or IMRAY which are popular chart suppliers, you can buy online for convenience - for a small boat like that IMRAY would work well as the charts are somewhat waterproofed. You could also search for "Chandlery" locally as they will have charts in stock.


 
Posted : 30/10/2012 11:49 pm
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Not another new wheel standard? shed needs painting etc.


 
Posted : 30/10/2012 11:49 pm
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imray charts and their local pilots guides are what you might be after. Digital ones exist these days as well.


 
Posted : 30/10/2012 11:52 pm
 taka
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them imray ones look good but theres none on there website of that area apart from large scale maps for ships


 
Posted : 30/10/2012 11:58 pm
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@taka, I just looked and the websites a bit rubbish but I think you are right they only do larger scale for that area. You can call Seachest in Plymouth, only suggest them as its a marine bookshop I like to support

[url= http://www.seachest.co.uk/acatalog/Sea_Chest_Charts___Admiralty__Imray__1.html ]Seachest[/url]

If you google "chandlery Whitby" you should find a local supplier. I don't know that part of the coast at all, perhaps there isn't that much leisure sailing in the area hence low demand for such charts. The Admiralty will have a chart I am sure. You will also get harbour plans from a Nautical Almanac but you do need a paper chart.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 12:50 am
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Call the harbour office and explain what you are looking for [url= http://www.yorkshireports.co.uk/info/contacts.aspx ]Link[/url]


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 12:56 am
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Stick to a lake if I were you.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 7:00 am
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You could consider software like Memory Map and a marine chart package, which could be linked to gps as a bonus.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 7:40 am
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You are going to need a bigger boat


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 7:55 am
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Kelvin Hughes are the UK distributor for Admiralty charts and sell Imray charts. There is a [url= http://www.bookharbour.com/chart-selector/ ]Chart Selector[/url] on their [url= http://www.bookharbour.com ]Bookharbour[/url] website which should help you find any charts you need.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 11:31 am
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That mast looks like it may have once been a telegraph or powerline pole.. I'm not sure is set off on an ocean adventure in that.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 12:05 pm
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Not wanting to piss on your chips, but if you don't know where to get chart from do you have any experience sailing? Just asking as reading a chart and navigating have very little in common with doing the same on an OS map apart from both involve paper, and wandering off the 'path' in a boat tends to need heliopters and lifeboats to put right rather than dragging a bike off a bog.

Pop into your chandlers (the sailing equivelent of the LBS), they'll stock them.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 12:24 pm
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Its ok.. he wanted the advice of sailers (people who find cheap stuff at cut prices) not sailors.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 12:29 pm
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try speaking to the folk at the sailing club, may give you some pointers about where to go etc.

Not sailed at Whitby for years, but do rememeber some serious weather coming in onto that shoreline, lots of cliffs, and you have quite a small boat, albeit with quite a big mast... 😉


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 1:22 pm
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Its ok.. he wanted the advice of sailers (people who find cheap stuff at cut prices) not sailors.

*Pedant Fail* 😆

Oh the irony! - that doesn't quite work does it?
In the context above, the word is spelt "sale" not "sail"

🙄


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 1:41 pm
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Duuuh.. a sailer is a bargain hunter with nautical knowledge... not necessarily a sailor.
Dont you know anything.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 2:59 pm
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^ that boat ^

Are you really sure about going to Sea in ^ that boat ^

Search for a local Chandler, they should help, then go on over to the Harbour Master and explain your (cough) trip, then over to the Lifeboat Station to explain your (cough) trip, then I'd inform the Coastguard too and then I'd infomr the MCA.

All joking aside..

^ that boat ^

It needs the soap taking out of it first.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 3:44 pm
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[url= http://www.****/news/article-1269257/Man-sailing-round-UK-using-road-map-circling-Isle-Sheppey-Kent-coast.html ]http://www.****/news/article-1269257/Man-sailing-round-UK-using-road-map-circling-Isle-Sheppey-Kent-coast.html[/url]


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 3:48 pm
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Is that boat a CJR? It's a small and unstable wee thing, be very careful as the NE coast gets a huge swell at times even without much of a wind on, and can turn in a matter of minutes. Stay close in.

Are you planning to fish? Or just out for socials? What engine and backup power have you got? Oars won't be enough; you need a 4-5hp aux on a boat like that.

Please don't underestimate the amount of money you have to spend to be safe.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 3:52 pm
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

FWIW I think that's a motor boat, powered via an outboard.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 3:57 pm
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^ that boat ^

Beauty is indeed in the eye of the tiger.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 3:59 pm
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Of course it's a motor boat! The term sailors is still suitable though!


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 4:07 pm
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You'll need VHF licence (illegal to use VHF without it, you need to check in with port authorities before heading out so they can log your details and raise the alarm if you're not back in time) and onboard VHF plus backup handheld VHF, full inflatable lifejackets for everyone on board at all times, GPS, main and aux power, roadworthy trailer with working lights and if the boat goes over 500kg GROSS brakes too, anchor/chain/rope to prevent drift onto rocks in the event of breakdown, first aid kit, a set of dry clothes, sharp knife, charts, plus a few other things.

I had small fishing motor boats for a few years. It's a lot of work but worth it.

With that boat though, please be careful!


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 4:12 pm
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IMHO that boat should stick to inland waters,but it's only imho matey.......


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 5:25 pm
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Sorry your boat is crap, please don't go into the North Sea in that.

I've raced and cruised yachts and dinghies on this coast for 25 years.

RNYC do a guide to ports on the north east coast. Royal Northumberland yacht club. They sell it in local chandlers so you may pick one up down there. If not Storrar marine store in Newcastle will sort you out.

As above though a proper paper chart is minimum alongside digital charts. VHF, flares, spare fuel, spare impellers for outboard, spare sheer pin, spare 2 stroke oil, funnel, lifejacket a, glow sticks, anchor with decent amount of chain plus rope. Knife. Spanners, screw drivers, pliers, wd40, spare spark plugs,

^ just to get you started


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 5:37 pm
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Are you intending to go fishing in/on it? stick to the harbour & you might get some whiteys, or go out in this....

http://sea-otter2.co.uk/information-2/boat

420hp Cat engine too.

PS, I know I'm not even invited but I wouldn't be going far out of Whitby in/on that.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 7:04 pm
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Sorry your boat is crap, please don't go into the North Sea in that.

I thought I put it slightly more gently, and that's saying something.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 7:23 pm
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Hello sailors 🙂


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 7:56 pm
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Sorry your boat is crap, please don't go into the North Sea in that.

It's the mast, isn't it?


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 7:59 pm
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No, no I think it's the alloy wheels on the trailer that give it away.

I'd really like to take the piss a little more, but to be fair to the OP he did actually ask about charts and Nav, so im inclined to wind my neck in and praise him a little for asking such intelligent questions.


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 8:58 pm
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^ that boat ^

Are you really sure about going to Sea in ^ that boat ^

that boat has been across the irish sea from Cambletown to Glenarm


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:02 pm
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Is that boat a CJR? It's a small and unstable wee thing, be very careful as the NE coast gets a huge swell at times even without much of a wind on, and can turn in a matter of minutes. Stay close in.

Are you planning to fish? Or just out for socials? What engine and backup power have you got? Oars won't be enough; you need a 4-5hp aux on a boat like that.

i havent a clue what make it is i took in in px for my jaguar 27 yacht its got a 110hp main outboard and a 15hp aux the smaller engine powered me a few miles back to shore in a swell off scotland easily enough when the main engine decided to seize


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:11 pm
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my jaguar 27 yacht

You were 16 and pleading poverty pedaling tat on the classifieds not long ago! How did you end up with a nice boat?


 
Posted : 31/10/2012 10:39 pm
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A 110 outboard? How big is the boat? It looks like a 15footer, these things usually have a max of 50 on them. The transom might not be rated for a 110 and the boat could be ripped to bits by the engine!

My advice - trade it back in again for a bike and forget sailing!


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 7:31 am
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Actualy, more to the point how did you sail a 27ft yacht without charts?


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 12:40 pm
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is this not a case of extreme ignorance !


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 12:52 pm
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Actualy, more to the point how did you sail a 27ft yacht without charts?

It's not so hard,my dad used to know a bloke that did regular channel crossings to France & the like.He had charts but couldn't read them, so he used to follow the ferries across to where he was going !


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 1:13 pm
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This is a very strange thread!

If you put a 110hp outboard on the back of that thing it would sink.

If you put a 110hp outboard AND a 15hp auxiliary on the back of that thing it would snap.

If you used to own a serious offshore sailing yacht why would you not know how to spell sailor and where to buy charts from?


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 1:39 pm
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A jaguar 27 is not a serious offshore sailing yacht.

And it's Campbeltown.


 
Posted : 01/11/2012 7:52 pm
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my jaguar 27 yacht
You were 16 and pleading poverty pedaling tat on the classifieds not long ago! How did you end up with a nice boat?

got in the right job with the right people also got left some money from a grandparent

its a 17ft boat not 15ft the 110hp outboard fits and handles fine sits abit low at the back but other than that I've had no problems and as for charts I've never bought charts as they were on the boat when i bought it, and I've been sailing around the mediterranean with my parents since i was five so I've learnt to read and navigate using them and don't get me started on spelling...


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 6:29 pm
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and believe me a jaguar is not a serious sailing yacht by any means there like going to sea in a bath tub


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 6:30 pm
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they're 😉

Jag 27 is an ok little boat actually.

I've a cracking Sadler 32 for sale if anyone is interested.


 
Posted : 02/11/2012 10:51 pm

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