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...and do any of you use Creative Suite?

I wondered if you've seen or bought a good Type1 to Truetype or Opentype font convertor?

Adobe are stopping support for Type1 fonts in the New Year and I have ruddy thousands of the things!

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Posted : 15/12/2022 11:54 am
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To be honest I'm so annoyed about the disappearance of the Pantone palettes from Creative Suite that I haven't really had chance to think about the upcoming font apocalypse

Adobe are really covering themselves in glory at the moment, aren't they?


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 11:57 am
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I think you can do it with Fontforge. I use it to edit fonts but you should be able to open a font then save it as TTF. In fact a quick google says you can get a script that will automate the process if you do have thousands to do.


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 11:59 am
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Adobe are really covering themselves in glory at the moment, aren’t they?

Yep - handing it on a plate to Affinity!

But Affinity is still not quite there yet for me.

The Pantone thing is baffling though, just two big companies having a spat between themselves and end users losing out. I can see a decline in Pantone use though as digital print is becoming the norm. 99% of what I do now is CMYK.

In fact a quick google says you get a script that will automate the process if you do have thousands to do.

Not planning on doing thousands at once. It'll be as-and-when basis, there's always that quirky font you were given donkeys years ago that's a key part of a job! 🙂


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:00 pm
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there’s always that quirky font you were given donkeys years ago

Sshhhh....


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:07 pm
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Adobe are really covering themselves in glory at the moment, aren’t they?

Even middle_oab, a digital design college student is fed up of them. Halfway through the college year the college have stopped providing Creative Suite, so he has gone out and purchased it all himself. Only to discover upcoming degradation of what he is being taught to use...


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:10 pm
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To be honest I’m so annoyed about the disappearance of the Pantone palettes from Creative Suite
they're still on mine, but I guess that's because I haven't bothered updating for some time! Fortunately updates are not mandatory with Adobe (looking at you, Fusion 360 😂)

I can see a decline in Pantone use though as digital print is becoming the norm.
Pantone is, and always has been, a racket/scam. 99% of my clients who ask for a Pantone colour have no real idea what it actually is, and no way of checking that I'm giving them the right colour. They just think they sound professional 😃

Can't really help with the OP but a quick google suggests there's apps which will do it painlessly. TBH the writing has been on the wall for Type1 for years (decades really), not something I've ever used myself despite having done this for a while so you may be showing your age here 😉


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:15 pm
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Sshhhh….

🤣

I miss the Imagesetting bureau's!


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:17 pm
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Adobe are really covering themselves in glory at the moment, aren’t they?

It's always been the way, they're simply reverting to type.


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:18 pm
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Pantone is, and always has been, a racket/scam.

I disagree - in the olden days it was an easy way to spec colours especially for smaller printers running single and two colour presses who couldn't do their own full colour work. And you'd just order a tin of whatever Pan reference and you knew it would be right.

so you may be showing your age here 😉

I pre-date Type1 fonts! Letraset, paste-up and hours and hours spent in dark room when I were a lad! Doing reversed text was a massive task. 🤣


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:22 pm
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And you’d just order a tin of whatever Pan reference and you knew it would be right.
exactly, they knew they had you over a barrel & you'd cough up a fortune for the swatches. Total racket 😂


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:29 pm
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exactly, they knew they had you over a barrel & you’d cough up a fortune for the swatches. Total racket 😂

You mean that one swatch you bought once every 10 years when it fell apart - they always ended up dog-eared and covered in thumby ink stains! And you could blag a swatch if you spent enough, or knew the right warehouse bloke. 🙂

And customers were only offered what you had on the shelf - "You want Blue? That'll be Reflex or Process Blue!"


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 12:36 pm
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I work in newsprint. Our files go straight to plate. We still get ****s straight out of college sending sending us cmyk files and specifying the Pantone it has to match.
We can't even guarantee it will be the same colour across the width of the ad let along the run...


 
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Letraset, paste-up and hours and hours spent in dark room when I were a lad! Doing reversed text was a massive task.

We had a custom setting on our Agfa Imagesetter (IIRC) called 'Miss Tiggywinkle' because we used to set ads for a company that sold figurines and that setting was perfect for making copies from the master set of artwork. Stripping in a lower case 6pt 'i' into an ad with a spelling error. Cow Gum, Magic Tape, 0.3 Rotring pens (tap-tap-tap). Overlays, mark-ups, sticking Pantone tabs onto a special colour overlay to ensure the reference was recorded correctly, Chromalin proofs...

How I laughed when I saw my first Mac - no way, I thought, that creating a document in Quark XPress could be as accurate as me creating an A4 base for a letterhead artwork (2mm gap, 3mm line for the trim marks).

Those were the days!


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 2:51 pm
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Sorry, rambling off topic now but... At home I'm a long term Linux user and use the Gimp. I also use it at work from time to time as it's what I know. I don't need to do much photo manipulation, but there's one function of PS that could convert me, content aware fill. While sat in awe of it the other week, and thinking about a young colleagues (near complete) inadequacies in design, I came up with an idea for a t-shirt and told another colleague as he's started doing... Ended up quite pleased with my Secret Santa gift this year:

contentawarephil


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 5:43 pm
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How I laughed when I saw my first Mac – no way, I thought, that creating a document in Quark XPress could be as accurate as me creating an A4 base for a letterhead artwork (2mm gap, 3mm line for the trim marks).

I was involved in the marketing of the Mac launch over here. I did all the art old school for the launch but I’d seen the light and made a killing by being a very early adopter.


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 10:36 pm
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Pantone is, and always has been, a racket/scam. 99% of my clients who ask for a Pantone colour have no real idea what it actually is, and no way of checking that I’m giving them the right colour. They just think they sound professional

I remember one client wanted a specific Pantone colour across his stationery set - letterheads, comp.slips, business cards, envelopes, everything. We did a run of proofs, on all of the required stocks - did I say he wanted different papers for each item? Anyway, as quite a few here will know by now, a set colour will look slightly different on each stock, due to subtle differences in the colour of the stock, coating or whatever. He didn’t like that, wanted all the colours to match! I tried to explain repeatedly that the colours were identical, it was just the materials that made it look different.

Guess what we ended up having to do… 🙄

I pre-date Type1 fonts! Letraset, paste-up and hours and hours spent in dark room when I were a lad! Doing reversed text was a massive task. 🤣

Stripping in a lower case 6pt ‘i’ into an ad with a spelling error. Cow Gum, Magic Tape, 0.3 Rotring pens (tap-tap-tap). Overlays, mark-ups, sticking Pantone tabs onto a special colour overlay to ensure the reference was recorded correctly, Chromalin proofs…

How I laughed when I saw my first Mac – no way, I thought, that creating a document in Quark XPress could be as accurate as me creating an A4 base for a letterhead artwork (2mm gap, 3mm line for the trim marks).

Been there, did all that! I’ve still got one of the white plastic applicators for Mechanorma dry transfer lettering! I never used it for actual text, I found a No 7 Swann-Morton scalpel handle far better, I smoothed and polished the end of the handle, it made a perfect burnishing tool, with the blade at the other end for quick ‘adjustments’. Still got a couple and use them occasionally.

My first computer graphics experience was using a little 286/66 PC with CorelDraw, and a very early desktop scanner. We needed vector versions of logos and all sorts of stuff for print, bitmaps were far too resource hungry, and I got fairly adept at drawing fonts using guides and Bézier curves and stuff. I loved Corel, it was so intuitive, unlike Illustrator when I went onto the Mac.

It all seems so long ago…


 
Posted : 15/12/2022 11:07 pm

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