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Fire escape legislation

Sounds like 2 violations: locking the door to prevent immediate escape and blocking it with flammable material

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2005/1541/article/14/made

Fairly obviously, no they can't be locked.

As above. BS9999 says something like a minimum of 2 exists and within a certain distance of any location. And you cant lock them when the building is occupied (what if someone followed the exit signs and got trapped at the door because the cardboard was on fire).

If your boss is worried, put an alarm on the door or a glass bolt so staff cant open it except in emergencies.

as already stated, yes its illegal.

give your local fire station a ring and explain the situation and theyll ensure someone from their Community Fire Protection team pays the shop a visit and will enforce it.

Thanks I know its sounds a bit dumb of me to presume anything else but somehow I just couldn't find the links you guys provided to the legislation that stated it. I will now take it up with my boss.

Does your company have a whistle-blower phoneline? If you are worried about repercussions then ring that.
Deffo dodgy mcdodge.

Or for shits and giggles, set fire to something...

lol one comment was we wouldn't make it to the fire escape anyway due to all the flammable material in the shop.
I'll speak to my boss before fire brigade try & keep it nice as I really get on with her.

we were allowed to lock a fire door for the same reason (preventing trespass to a rarely used bit of the building) but with a thumb operated deadlock. The fire officer said a push bar lock would have been even better, but a key lock was definitely out.

I was going to ask our female enforcement officer to comment but you asked for a "fireman"

The bus back to 1970's left along time ago.

call your local fire service for advice 1st thing monday. I'm sure someone will be out toot sweet

Worth checking if there is a fire risk assessment for the premises, this should detail escape routes and management of storage and the like, but likely that a fire door should be easily opened from inside, door alarm might be the best bet.

It’s illegal yes and will also be covered when you do your annual fire safety training, they are doing that too right?

they are doing that too right?

Ooh, I know this answer...

You can’t even lock them when the building is unoccupied in case a burglar sets fire to the place and needs to escape...

So many devices that can be used and still keep the fire escape element. Absolutely no excuse and 100 percent illegal. Fire officer could have the store shut down for such breaches.

Thank you all question answered.

Many years ago in Wrexham at a supermarket a fire door was locked shut with a roller shutter on the outside down, there was a fire and a few staff where killed, always report locked fire doors to the fire service,they like to enforce the rules,that save peoples and their own lives, they may well have to enter that building, and they want to know they can also get out safely.

So many different accessible locking devices, alarms and cctv to protect stock, fire exits protect staff and customers.

Also when you ring the fire service you dont need to give a name or details that you work there, i never have.

Not allowed. End of. I do recall years ago that a drop in bar was adopted for a retailer under a management plan of first person / last person out but with the 3 and 4 point high security panic locking devices things have moved on.

Best place to look is under Approved Document Part B which is available free on line.