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I've noticed occasionally that when I'm climbing hard up a hill i.e. breathing hard and high heart rate. If I stop suddenly and get off to push then I momentarily feel like I'm going to pass out. It soon passes and I can carry on. I'm guessing it's a sudden drop in blood pressure but no idea if it's normal or why it happens. It could just be my poor fitness or maybe a sign of something else. Obviously I will talk to a doc about this but does anyone else experience this?


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 7:05 pm
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Sounds like Cat Aids and not the good type either.....


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 7:06 pm
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I've never even heard of armchair-heart


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 7:13 pm
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Myocardial sofarction


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 7:16 pm
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Possibly life-threatening but probably not.

Go to a doctor


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 7:17 pm
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Ianad so take my explanation with a dose of skepticism.

When under exertion such as climbing a hill you will have tense muscles raising your blood pressure, when you get off the bike to push your muscles will relax and blood pressure will fall leading to feeling light headed.


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 7:22 pm
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Probably the wrong time to comment. Been discharged from hospital after a sub-arachnoid haemmorage. Despite everything - feel i have made wrong priority calls. Mountain biking has been wonderful but not as valued as my wife and children…


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 7:32 pm
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Crivens jam. Are you okay? Any neuro deficit? Were you cycling when this happened? You are lucky to have survived this yo be fair. Hope you make a full and swift recovery. An ex colleague of mine suffered a SAH in a meeting at work and died in the ambulance.


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 8:03 pm
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F*kin comedians the lot of yer 🙂 @somafunk your explanation sounds plausible to me so I won't bother the doc with this trivia Cheers! @jamj1974 all the best for the future, thankfuly I don't have the symptoms of that.


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 8:12 pm
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Under exercise your body needs more oxygen so your veins and arteries dilate to make the cardiovascular system a bit more efficient. When you suddenly cease said exercise, your heart rate drops a bit but your arteries are still dilated, thus your blood pressure drops and you feel faint. You may see people faint crossing the finish line in a race and this is probably why.


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 9:03 pm
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Been discharged two days - my confidence is probably at an all time low.


 
Posted : 11/08/2022 9:09 pm
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@jamj1974 im sorry to hear about this.

I dont know very much about anything, but i would offer this forum is a great place for support of any kind.

So keep posting and keep looking after yourself.

Im in snowdonia if you want a beer or a lounge in a lake

Ian


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 7:32 am
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My OH had a heart attack last year, and probably a few 'small' ones before the one that landed him in casualty with a quick stent insertion and couple of nights in hospital. He brushed the small ones off as a pulled muscle (so did the paramedic when she called when he was having his big one).

Get checked out.


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 8:39 am
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Thank you Breninbeener - I am in Brum so over 100 miles away. I do appreciate it though!


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 8:53 am
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Bloody hell @jamj1974 that sounds pretty bad, hope you're taking it easy


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 9:01 am
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See your Doc. Don’t listen to bullshit like this

Under exercise your body needs more oxygen so your veins and arteries dilate to make the cardiovascular system a bit more efficient.

@jamj1974 hope you recover soon, feeling down after such an event is normal. Take care.


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 9:03 am
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your explanation sounds plausible to me

Please don't dismiss my Cat Aids suggestion so quickly! It is a serious condition and can prove fatal....

... although mainly to cats.


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 9:10 am
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It’s getting dusty in here…


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 9:31 am
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See your Doc. Don’t listen to bullshit like this

The OP said, quote: "obviously I will talk to a doc", but was also inviting the opinions of "armchair heart specialists".

Under those circumstances I think it is a bit churlish to dismiss the quality of armchair diagnosis.


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 9:34 am
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In that case… and seeing as I’m sitting in armchair drinking a “very very” strong beer … Emergency Consultant colleague of mine in their mid-40s like me had a stroke last week, completely out of the blue. Turned out to be a tiny hole in their heart.

So I’d say my best advice to the OP is to go out and try to find the hardest, steepest hill you can. Attack it hard, but just don’t get off the bike.


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 10:07 am
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So I’d say my best advice to the OP is to go out and try to find the hardest, steepest hill you can. Attack it hard, but just don’t get off the bike

Probably the best advice so far, as it only happens when I get off. And yes, I will definately talk to doc about it...along with other ongoing shyte things. After I crashed in april the course medic checked me over and asked for medical history. After I finished reeling stuff off she just looked at me and said " I don't know how you dare get on a bike with all that lot going on."


 
Posted : 12/08/2022 4:01 pm
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Failure to disclose your medical history may render my armchair expert advice utterly useless 🤣


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 2:00 am
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reeksy

Failure to disclose your medical history may render my armchair expert advice utterly useless 🤣

Nah, I have faith in your armchair expertise!


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 4:10 pm
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I first noticed my dodgy valve on the bike - could not catch my breath uphill or maintain a positive pace.

I never felt faint when I stopped.

I did notice my expected recovery did not happen riding as my heart began to fail - so that made itself noticeable through cycling.

Now unless it is vert steady and flat, I can’t manage without an e-bike.


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 5:34 pm
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Can I have your bike(s)?


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 7:01 pm
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Can I have your bike(s)?

My sons are.


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 7:14 pm
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Not fof a good few years I hope. Seriously for a moment I do suffer with the symptoms that you've described. I'm guessing that you're literally trying too hard. I've developed a technique whereby I can grind up the steepest climbs very very slowly. Also stop using your arms to pedal (I was) concentrate on funneling the stresses through your core instead.


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 7:25 pm
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Not fof a good few years I hope. Seriously for a moment I do suffer with the symptoms that you’ve described. I’m guessing that you’re literally trying too hard. I’ve developed a technique whereby I can grind up the steepest climbs very very slowly. Also stop using your arms to pedal (I was) concentrate on funneling the stresses through your core instead

Great move!


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 7:28 pm
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https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/45/14/1157


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 7:34 pm
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… so just don’t stop basically. Or at least stop slowly 😉


 
Posted : 13/08/2022 8:50 pm
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Your Drs response will be... oh dont do that then.

They aint got no time for investigations and that stuff... im down to see the cardiac consultant.. cant have an appointment before may 2023 and Im not to call asking for one until July  2023.. by which time...


 
Posted : 14/08/2022 1:32 pm
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TBH it’s sort of sports induced, so you need a GP whose into his riding. Most of the people they normally see aren’t ramping their heart rate on a balls out attempt on strava.

You could also spin to win and see if that makes any difference.


 
Posted : 14/08/2022 1:54 pm
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I fainted twice after exertion on MTB rides. after the second one went to the GP nded up with an emergency referral to the local cardialogy team & a stent. If its what I had (Lower Artery Descending) don't ignore it, this is a red light.


 
Posted : 14/08/2022 2:33 pm
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Most of the people they normally see aren’t ramping their heart rate on a balls out attempt on strava.

I regularly have my arse handed to me on a plate by the surgeons and cardiologists at Papworth, there are some very strong riders in the team there.


 
Posted : 14/08/2022 2:45 pm

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