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For my g/f... she previously had two diesel focus's and does around 25000 miles per year, as a contractor and for her own business. Likes the focus size, though I think could be convinced to go slightly smaller but not a lot, but would prefer a reasonably powerful engine so as to not struggle with the mileage.
Wants to spend around £10K but will obviously extend the budget as is necessary. Has to be a fairly new low mileage unit (due to the amount of miles she'll add), any suggestions to start searching for?
Obvious choice is another focus.. or maybe a fiesta?
how about a focus ecoboost?
3 cylinder turbocharged 1 litre engine giving 125bhp and around 55mpg. £30 to tax so would be very cheap to run. £10-12k can get you a 13 plate with around 10-15k on the clock...this should be cheaper once you've haggled the price down
fiestas with the same engine also go for the same money. similar age but mileage would be a lot lower...around 2k on the clock. fiestas come with zero tax to pay on this engine.
my source for these prices was motorpoint's website
On a on a 600m roadtrip I got 35mpg av from a ecoboost Fiesta.
How about a 1 series BMW?
Cheers, fair enough I'd only glanced at ford's 2nd hand site and couldn't see any eco boost focus's in this price range listed, just the 'normal' 1.6 diesel (which isn't a bad unit, looking at the reviews).
As I say focus will probably be a front runner, but wondering is there anything else worth looking at as a 'stong' alternative?
Hora are you Richard Hammond?
I'd assume the Beemer would like an Audi or VW (She's actually love a Golf but can't see it being a realistic option), would have a premium price compared to basically the same unit from Ford... but we can add it to the list... it's options to look at we need at the moment.
Indeedy, that not great MPG figures, WTF are you up to? 😉
It can bloody shift for a 1.0 😆
A 1.6 Focus I never beat 30mpg average yet beat VWs average on a 1.9TDI. Fords figures are bogus.
Seriously treat her. A 1 series is supposed to be a good car and for 10k..have a look at them?
LOL @ treat her, she earn more than I ever will! (she driven, I'm sooo not)
That said she's not rolling in cash (has a horse to support...), hence the budget.
She has a much lighter right foot than me and bring in much better MPG than I do, using the same car...
We'll add it to the list...
my niece has a 1 series which she paid 17k for brand new...its the 118d i think and having driven it myself i have to agree with Hora that it is a very good car. not sure what sort of consumption figures she's getting from it though.
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How many people will say on their deathbed, "I wish I'd bought a Focus instead".
is the 10K budget "cash" or a loan? if a loan & she'll be making monthly payments, consider a brand new car on PCP for less monthly outlay - although at that annual mileage PCP might not be as good as it could be. Some of these deals also come with a fixed price service plan.
How many people will say on their deathbed, "I wish I'd bought a Focus instead".
Good point!
Get an Aston Martin 😀
How many people will say on their deathbed, "I wish I'd bought a Focus instead".
Having borrowed her fathers, admittedly petrol mazda while her DMF was replaced, she was desperate to get her focus back! ....(didn't do half the MPG of the focus & was generally rubbish IHO)
EDIT: She also need to be able to carry some equipment occasionally - it wouldn't fit in [i]that[/i] mazda...
John D interesting point, though she paid her last loan back early, is that an option on finance?
[i]Likes the focus size, though I think could be convinced to go slightly smaller but not a lot, [/i]
I'd always rather be in a larger car than smaller.
A 1.6 Focus I never beat 30mpg average
Even my 2 litre (petrol) Focus averaged over 35 (with bikes on the back), so god knows what you're doing.
Don't go smaller. Smaller and big miles isn't a good combo. Anything Focus/Golf/1-series size should do well. BMWs are a bit more refined on the motorway in my experience.
I have also heard reports of poor fuel consumption with the newer so called 'eco' engines.
In theory they are fine if driven like a saint but if you need to use the performance they have to be revved far higher than say a bigger engined car.
My sister in law has just traded in a VW Polo with the 3 cylinder petrol engine for a 116 BMW (2 litre petrol) and gets far better fuel economy form the BMW.
My parents have a Focus Ecoboost 1.0 and its mpg is rubbish, mainly in the 30's. At 25k miles per year I would look bigger rather than smaller. Tend to be quieter, comfier better all round. Id look at a Passat or Mondeo, lots of car for your money and should get 50+mpg.
And look at automatic too.
Legend you dont have to rev/use the 2.0 as hard as the ancient 1.6 unit. Just normal driving sees poor mpg out of it.
Id look at a Passat or Mondeo, lots of car for your money and should get 50+mpg.
Just had a Passat Bluemotion (estate) on loan for a couple of weeks. Very capable motorway cruiser (seriously quiet), didn't crack 50mpg though. Sat around 47 all the time, so still not bad for a big barge and a saloon should be slightly better
Also in market for similar car. Was wondering about a Golf 1.4 TSI.....
paid her last loan back early, is that an option on finance?
as far as I know, yes - but generally you wouldn't bother, you'd just change it for another model on a new finance deal.
The point of PCP is that there's a large lump sum left at the end of the finance period, which in theory is going to be a fair bit less than the car is actually worth at that point; the difference makes up the deposit on the next car, provided it's the same brand... Or you just give the car back & walk away. or the third option, pay off the lump sum & own the car outright.
For example, I'm looking at a Honda CRV 1.6idTEC for my next car. £24k worth.
no way could I afford a £24k loan over say 5 years.
on PCP with a £2k deposit, 0% APR finance, I can get said Honda for £324 per month. In 3 years it's worth, say, £12k but the GMFV was £9k, this gives me £3k towards my next Honda... the 5 year service pack is £500, included in these figures. And it's in warranty for the whole time that I own it, so any expensive repairs should be taken care of...
Of course, this could all change on 1st April, when this particular offer expires.
Skoda Yeti would be even cheaper per month, on the same kind of deal. Other makes & models are available
Seat Leon?
hora - MemberOn a on a 600m roadtrip I got 35mpg av from a ecoboost Fiesta.
How about a 1 series BMW?
Maybe it was broken, tyre pressure low, or you need to adjust your driving style to suit it:
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/ford/fiesta-2013/10-ecoboost-125ps
Average 44mpg.
The 1 series I drove had really crashy suspension. I guess very hard springs and not enough damping. I would certainly not like to do 25k a year in one.
I tried an X1 a few weeks back. like a 1 series but a [i]little[/i] bit bigger and 4 wheel drive.
nice car, nice drive.
but too small. I've had a 3 series before & had no problem getting comfortable in that, but in the X1, I couldn't push the wheel far enough away from me with the seat back in my preferred position., so I had to recline further than I'd like to.
Would be a struggle to get my drums into it [i]and[/i] a passenger as well.
curvature - Member
I have also heard reports of poor fuel consumption with the newer so called 'eco' engines.In theory they are fine if driven like a saint but if you need to use the performance they have to be revved far higher than say a bigger engined car.
That's interesting & looks to tie into what the [url= http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/ford/focus-2011 ]honestjohn realmpg[/url] (cheers for the link Retro) site is saying. Suggesting that in the real world a 'std' diesel is probably as economical
John D will need to look into the PCP further as your post has twisted my head (it is early in my defence)... but will take a look.
Cheers all BTW
Maybe it was broken, tyre pressure low, or you need to adjust your driving style to suit it:
No it was working just fine. I tried then gave up. I'd asked for a diesel for my trip but they had none in. As I said earlier- I consistently achieved on target (and even better) mpg out of a 1.9TDI that I owned.
Surprisingly I also achieved over 50mpg average out of a petrol Subaru Legacy Sportswagon on the motorway on a steady run.
The engine is brilliant but to get anywhere near decent mpg out of the eco engine you'd have to sit at 50mph AND in no winds or gradients IMO.
ive got a 118d - done 90k miles in it in 2 and bit years. averages about 50mpg, but i have seen upto 60mpg on a decent run by taking it steady.
its a brilliant car in my mind, still quick enough should you want to boot it. its not got a great deal of leg room in the back, but for 95% of the miles i do there's just me in it so this has never really been a concern. boot isnt massive, but our other car is a mini so seems massive in comparison to that!
easily swallows 2 bikes with the front wheels off (seats down obviously 🙄 )
i wouldnt hesitate to recommend it to others
A 1.6 Focus I never beat 30mpg average
Was averaging over 42mpg at one point, usage has changed now. (1.6, 100bhp estate)
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hora - MemberNo it was working just fine. I tried then gave up. I'd asked for a diesel for my trip but they had none in. As I said earlier- I consistently achieved on target (and even better) mpg out of a 1.9TDI that I owned.
All I'm saying is that you got 33% less than average according to the Honest John page. Low tyre pressures, a sticky brake or similar seems likely. People might be lying I suppose, or maybe it's just not ideally suited to motorway driving.
retro83
Not just me.
FunkyDunc - Member
My parents have a Focus Ecoboost 1.0 and its mpg is rubbish, mainly in the 30'
Some other drivers experiences:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1340648
One thing I learnt after initially taking HonestJohn for gospel- DONT. His advice column in the Telegraph driving section has some amazing howlers.
One thing I learnt after initially taking HonestJohn for gospel- DONT. His advice column in the Telegraph driving section has some amazing howlers.
I totally agree but that page is average MPG submitted by users. The average on SprintMonitor is also around the same - 43 mpg.
Agree, I'd like to see how many people those figures are made up of? Abit like the tripadvisor restaurants who are in #1 position for an area with only 20reviews totally and a restaurant in #2 with 250? (weird analogy)
I just couldn't drop it even when I tried. I'm not alone either though!
i have to agree with Hora that the manufacturers claimed consumption figure are a load of bollocks and that the figures on sites like Honest Johns dont give an indication of how many driver submitted reviews they were averaged from...
having said that i was surprised to see that his focus was only giving him 30mpg...my 1.6 c-max is currently averaging 34-35mpg....80% of this is urban driving during rush hour...
however i'm not going to complain as even this figure is a massive improvement over the old almera....put it this way driving to birmingham now costs me about £12 worth of fuel whereas the almera would have cost more than double that!!
not happy with fuel consumption/costs?....get a bike instead......oh, wait.... 😉
gonzy which 1.6 is it?
Mine was a 2004- the old original old 1.6 duratec (manual gearbox). I was surprised and brimmed/calculated it a few times to be sure.
Reminds me of the MX5 that I used to have- on a motorway run you could literally see the fuel gauge moving round.
which 1.6 is it?
not sure which exact engine variant it is i.e. engine model
but its the 100bhp petrol version with manual box on a 2010 model
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If yours is 100bhp its the same old engine!
The newer engine (also available in yours) is 115hp.
Maybe my handbrake was on (surprisingly driving along the motorway you sometimes spot someones handbrake warning light on) 😯
If yours is 100bhp its the same old engine!
you're probably right there. the latest version also came out in 2010 but i think it looks a bit ugly (like my bike!) compared to this model.