[Closed] Andrea Leadsom is my new boss

Spelling her name right in emails will probably help you in the long run. 🙂

You could always make some stuff up, put it on your CV and head off to pastures new...

I'm sorry to hear that.

It wouldn't surprise me if her first action is to try and bring back fox hunting 😥

One of my friends works for a large environmental charity. The appointment of Andrea Leadsom has ushered in a level of swearyness I previously thought impossible 😯

Its fair to say he's not best pleased. Given her track record, I don't blame him

Don't worry judging by her cv, she is actually.......oh hang on 😉

Seriously, she is probably professional, hard working and fair. That's my experience of people at Invesco/Perpetual.

She was at one point, my MP.

You have my sympathies

Doesn't she think the UK would be both more wealthy and better off without the Environment?

And supports Fox Huntng too.

Just follow her lead, create havoc and walk away whilst taking crap yet capturing a top job courting the media, issuing lies and deceit.

Crack on OP, nothing to loose it seems.

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Its another contribution to our present Back to the 80's political scene

Climate change? Its a myth! Nothing to worry about there.

TALLY HO!!!!!

No chance of repealing the hunting ban TBH

I hope to god no more parliamentary time is wasted on the subject of fox hunting. Its a trivial side issue, more about class war than anything else.

The real problem is her pro-fracking, climate change denying views. I find that genuinely worrying

Doesn't she think the UK would be both more wealthy and better off without the Environment?

Yup: an Environment secretary who doesn't believe in climate change. You couldn't make it up.

what binners said is true for me.

I hope to god no more parliamentary time is wasted on the subject of fox hunting. Its a trivial side issue, more about class war than anything else.

On the surface it may appear a trivial, class war issue, but actually fox hunting demonstrates a level of arrogance and dismissiveness of the environment that is potentially damaging.

I agree with you on the fracking and climate change denial fronts, though.

Along with Liam Fox and Boris Johnson this is giving me the feeling that Theresa May doesn't know what she's doing.

Can't see this being a government of evidence based policy :/

Its another contribution to our present Back to the 80's political scene

Did you listen to last week's Friday Night Comedy Podcast (Dead ringers) - 1985 here we come....

If not, it was very good 🙂

Can't see this being a government of evidence based policy :/

Tories never have been, they are driven by Ideology (of which their prime tenant is Wealthy = deserving and Poor = undeserving).

Just in.....
Eric Pickles as minister for sport

You see, this could actually be true...

(goes away to check)

but actually fox hunting demonstrates a level of arrogance and dismissiveness of the environment that is potentially damaging.

It's not an environmental issue is it? It's an animal cruelty issue with nuances around the rural economy and culture. Foxes are still controlled aka shot.

Happy to be corrected

Eric Pickles as minister for sport

Well you have the match the comedy value of Diane Abbott as Shadow Health SoS

Along with Liam Fox and Boris Johnson this is giving me the feeling that Theresa May doesn't know what she's doing.

I concluded the exact opposite. She knows exactly what she's doing. Hence a climate change denier as environment secretary, and Jeremy Hunt...

Jeremy Hunt

Still there as health secretary

That all indicates a very right wing direction of travel. What a surprise. What with there effectively being no opposition, I doubt that they'll be hanging about implementing some absolutely bonkers policies either

Yep, if you haven't got a family Trust Fund, be worried.

Her speech was very interesting, all very left wing, help the poor etc; and then she appoints a bunch of right wing nutters to the key posts...

We can all see how this will pan out.

But Andrea Leadsom is going to have to explain to an army of angry farmers, why as a Leave campaigner, she supported the loss of their EU subsidy. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when Leadsom meets some farmers to explain this in person.

Clearly, Theresa May has a warped sense of humour that none of us anticipated.

It's worth digging into Leadsom's background, apparently she's been courted by the Tea Party movement, who paid for her to fly to the US and attend workshops on why Climate Change is a good thing whilst simultaneously learning about it being a colossal myth thanks to "bad science".

I sincerely hope that she owns a house on the north Norfolk coastline somewhere.

It's not an environmental issue is it? It's an animal cruelty issue with nuances around the rural economy and culture. Foxes are still controlled aka shot.

Of course it's an environmental issue. It has everything to do with how we relate to our natural environment.

But Andrea Leadsom is going to have to explain to an army of angry farmers, why as a Leave campaigner, she supported the loss of their EU subsidy

A good proportion of the farmers voted Out too.

A good proportion of the farmers voted Out too.

I live in the rural southeast, right in the heart of Outville. There are a large number of farmers around my way who are a tad upset and are bending the ear of our local MP.

Farmers - they're going to feel awfully silly when they get told to get ****ed for their subsidy/stewardship payments

Clearly, Theresa May has a warped sense of humour that none of us anticipated.

I did think that when I heard about Boris's appointment. So she's basically saying 'you broke it, you own it'. You wanted out ot the EU so you can **** off to Brussels and negotiate it then. And then you can come back and explain to everyone who voted for it why they won't let you have access to the markets without freedom of movement of people. Which you obviously knew anyway

Off you pop.....

No chance of repealing the hunting ban TBH

Not immediately as the SNP reneged on their commitment not to interfere in non-Scottish matters. It will be repealed at some stage I am surey, maybe when a child is mauled in a city and people understand they are pests. Or if we get rabies here.

As I undsrstand it farmers as a group voted Leave quite substantially. Farm after farm in Hampshire and Surrey have vote leave boards in their fields, I saw onky 1 Remain (at start of SDW)

Urban fox hunting? Yeah I remember that. 🙄

Yes but it will change perceptions. Urban population has a grave misunderstanding of foxes and hunting

maybe when a child is mauled in a city and people understand they are pests. Or if we get rabies here.

Ah, another Daily Mail reader. Alarmist nonsense.

Controlling fox population by having culls is a bit different to a bunch of wealthy Tories having fun on horses.

Are these a terrifying new breed of zombie foxes then Jammers?

its just that urban foxes have been around for as long as I can remember, yet the incidents of them eating babies have been notable by their absence.

Nice one for giving us the heads up on the way they're going to approach reinstating it. It sounds entirely plausable

Red sky at night,
Shepard's delight.

Red sky in the morning,
[s]Eu grant check due[/s]
Insurance job on the barn

actually fox hunting demonstrates a level of arrogance and dismissiveness of the environment that is potentially damaging.

I agree

its almost a perfect example of the parliamentarians ignoring the independent scientific advice and instead doing something for purely political reasons

incidentally, like access, something else where Scottish and E&W law differs significantly.

I suggest you read the Burns Inquiry final report before commenting further

maybe when a child is mauled in a city and people understand they are pests. Or if we get rabies here.

The committee's most reported conclusion was that hunting with dogs "seriously compromises" the welfare of the quarry species

maybe when a child is mauled in a city

Won't someone think of the children!!!

I quite like urban foxes, used to have one who sat on our window sill watching the world go by....

While I'm anti-fox hunting, I'd pay good money to watch a bunch of toffs on horseback, with beagles and bugles, charging through city centres after a fox

Liam Fox? yes please!

I always though huntin' shootin' and fishin' in a controlled sort of way was quite good for the environment.

Makes the toffs want to maintain the woods, fields and hedges rather than sell 'em all off for housing.

Farm after farm in Hampshire and Surrey have vote leave boards in their fields

Just shows that the loudest sound comes from an empty vessel. How many farmers have you talked to recently?

Makes the toffs want to maintain the woods, fields and hedges rather than sell 'em all off for housing

yes, but only with access for toffs; they don't want peasants ruining their leisure activities with their naff accents, garish outdoor clothing and socialist tendencies....

Don't worry judging by her cv, she is actually.......oh hang on

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I thought the proposal was to legalise peasant hunting, rather than bring back fox hunting?

The committee's most reported conclusion was that...

Probably another good reason to read the actual thing

I always though huntin' shootin' and fishin' in a controlled sort of way was quite good for the environment.

Makes the toffs want to maintain the woods, fields and hedges rather than sell 'em all off for housing.

The reality is different: The hunts ignore all boundaries, riding rough-shot over other people's land and then get aggressive when a land owner refuses them access.

Not only is it an incredibly inhumane blood sport, the treatment of the hounds is disgusting.

There are more humane ways of controlling the fox population than sending a bunch of braying inbreds out on horses with a pack of dogs to tear them apart. Some might argue that it's the "way of life" in the countryside, I would argue that it's a case of people wanting to be utter ****s and attempting to justify it by bleating on that their arcane traditions are somehow still morally acceptable.

he treatment of the hounds is disgusting.

How many hunt kennels have you, personally, actually been in?

There are more humane ways of controlling the fox population

How many of these methods have have you, personally, killed foxes with, in order to form your opinion?

Personally, I've used all of the current legal methods, and hunted both mounted and on foot before the ban, and flushing to guns as is still legal north of the border, so i have formed an opinion based on that - how about you?

fox hunting must be different elsewhere, but where we live the hunt is just something that occurs along with everything else - a cross-section of society getting together to ride across the countryside.

its legal, creates employment and folk enjoy it - and most of the landowners either ride or are happy for the hunt to come through, as they are with walkers, cyclists and other horse riders.

but then we live in Scotland and we try to be a bit more 'open'.

Back on topic - I'm with Pigface in that I have her as my new boss too.

As for our new PM, I'm not sure whether she is a genius tactician with her new appointments or completely barking.

Well my claim to fame is that Andrea Leadsom has recently sacked me (not quite true- I cam to the end of my time on an advisory committee and she wrote me a nice letter). She's sharp and pretty tough. Don't underestimate her

I always though huntin' shootin' and fishin' in a controlled sort of way was quite good for the environment.

not everything they do is bad though but the murdering for fun bit is a tad questionable to most folks morals.

How many of these methods have have you, personally, killed foxes with, in order to form your opinion?

I have also never raped anyone so I am staying quiet on that issue till I have tried a variety of different methods to be sure you know for science.The argument that you must have done the activity, as that extreme example showed, is species in the extreme.

Ninfan you like killing things and enjoy it

Fair dos but most of us think this makes you a bit......whatever polite word will do there. Deal with it and get a nicer hobby

I don't under estimate them dpfr.

They've all got to where they are by being cunning foxes (pun intended

She's sharp and pretty tough. Don't underestimate her

i doubt anyone will be doing that. She terrifies me! 😯

Ninfan you like killing things and enjoy it

Too right, just like most people here eat dead things and enjoy it

As for our new PM, I'm not sure whether she is a genius tactician with her new appointments or completely barking.

I'm suspecting that The Leader is propelling these colossal bell ends into positions where they can't run away. Give it a few years and they will all have been fired off for being incompetent, mad, liars or all three.

Like sending troublesome officers to The Russian Front.

Personally, I've used all of the current legal methods, and hunted both mounted and on foot before the ban, and flushing to guns as is still legal north of the border, so i have formed an opinion based on that - how about you?

My opinion is that a fox hunter is pro fox hunting.

How many of these methods have have you, personally, killed foxes with, in order to form your opinion?

None.

But then I've never taken any pleasure in dispatching any creature I've killed by my own hand that has been grievously maimed by something/someone else before I did something to alleviate it's suffering.

Personally, if I had to kill something again out of mercy, the last thing I'd do is to unleash a pack of hounds upon it.

Too right, just like most people here eat dead things and enjoy it

JY doesn't. He's a level 5 vegan

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Ninfan how many hunt kennels have you been in? It's such a rubbish question.

I am a bit ambivalent about hunting due to my own experiences, I know one hunt which is so rubbish they couldn't catch a cold (Llangibby)

do they treat hounds well, that is up to you, if a hound isn't fast enough, doesn't have the stamina, getting old then they are killed off. Hounds are just tools of the trade.

Activities like cubbing is pretty despicable, I have also met and worked with some right idiots who think as hunt followers it is ok to batter sabs.

I have also encountered really unpleasant hunt sabs whose sole agenda is to bash a toff.

There are far more effective ways of controlling foxes.

My opinion is that a fox hunter is pro fox hunting.

+1

Whereas in the last IPSOS Mori poll, a massive 82% (urban) and 84% (rural) of respondents were against repealing the current law. Now while Leavetards are masturbating and taunting over a 52:48 referendum result and the incorrectness of the polls which failed to predict that, I'm sure they will think up a way of dismissing those figures too.

It's also worth noting that a free vote in the HoC would likely fail, even if somehow, the Tories managed to get the SNP not to vote. (Although that might have changed a bit with the new febrile mood of the Tory party.)

Controlling fox population by having culls is a bit different to a bunch of wealthy Tories having fun on horses.

I didn't realise that stopping toffs having fun was an environmental issue

The environmental and animal welfare issues always seem to be secondary to class war with the anti brigade

I thought her plan to lift the hunting ban was just a sop to the Tory Party members to get her elected PM. I'd think she'll have more important things to worry about now....

The environmental and animal welfare issues always seem to be secondary to class war with the anti brigade

You cannot state this for sure, I'm afraid. It's just dismissing anti-cruelty concerns as wrapped up in a class war. As for toffs rampaging through the countryside, nobody is stopping them doing this. They can have a drag-hunt. And maybe just use fake blood to daub the children when it comes to that bit. Weird as it might be, there's nobody stopping them from doing this.

Ninfan you like killing things and enjoy it

Too right, just like most people here eat dead things and enjoy it

Killing out of necessity, and in as humane a way as possible, to feed yourself and others is very different from killing for pleasure. Enjoying the food is not the same as enjoying the killing. The failure by some to acknowledge the difference is what many find distasteful (to put it mildly).

Personally, I've used all of the current legal methods, and hunted both mounted and on foot before the ban, and flushing to guns as is still legal north of the border, so i have formed an opinion based on that - how about you?

I've very likely been on as many foxhunts as you, and more than likely seen a lot more action, and, like you, have formed the opinion that Mikey74 is a lot closer to the truth than you are.

Even though Junkyard has demonstrated it's of zero consequence how much hunting you've done.

Perhaps Labour could move on and stop people putting metal hooks through the mouths of fish before yanking them out of the water and then throwing them back in again for another go?

Always seems a rather coarse activity to me....

As for toffs rampaging through the countryside, nobody is stopping them doing this. They can have a drag-hunt. And maybe just use fake blood to daub the children when it comes to that bit. Weird as it might be, there's nobody stopping them from doing this.

Aren't hunting numbers actually better than ever?

And so clever to train the dogs to ignore any nice foxes that might come into sight (let alone be released into the action 😉 )

Sounds like a truly scary lady, imagine how bad she'd be if she didn't have children.

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Aren't hunting numbers actually better than ever?

To be honest thm, I have no idea. I consider it pretty much of an irrelevance in today's society which faces far bigger challenges and the parliamentary time they may take than a tiny minority of the population riding around chasing things and wasting the great majority of the public's time trying to repeal an act with which the great majority agree. When the ban was implemented, there was a majority of the public in favour of it. Since the ban, that majority has increased and by more in rural areas. That's enough for me.

As for the dogs, yes, I'm sure the kennels have made them aware of the law and the consequences of their following instinct and doing something silly. 🙂

Back on topic and she said that you should not have male nannies as some of them may be paedophiles....

but she has since explained that she herself has employed a male nanny and that some of her best friends are male nannies so its all alright now.

Putting Leadsom in charge of the environment is a bit like putting Cookie Monster in charge of the biscuit barrel.