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A few years ago a couple of data analysts revealed that everything we do electronically is being gathered by our own security services all the time,

Hmm, so they have a file on all of us?


 
Posted : 30/09/2021 1:29 pm
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so they have a file on all of us?

One file with absolutely everyone and everything that he have done and are doing in it. Then if 'they' need any info they know exactly where to find it - its in the file.


 
Posted : 30/09/2021 1:56 pm
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Fitbit promised that they’d never sell your data. Well, they’re owned by Google now.

One reason why I ditched my Fitbit for an Apple watch. The other reason being that the Fitbit was crap.


 
Posted : 30/09/2021 2:08 pm
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No, also you could just not connect it to the internet. I have an old smart TV that isn’t connected an just use a Roku for watching what I want through it.

Exactly this, but with Apple TV box connected instead of Roku.

I'm kind of looking forward to trying Siri when I get my first iPhone. Bixby on Samsung is poor so I don't bother with it, I just put Poweramp on shuffle all songs before I drive. As an aside to this thread.... does Siri play nice with Spotify or am I going to have to switch to Apple music for hands free operation in car?


 
Posted : 30/09/2021 4:04 pm
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I bought a ring doorbell, before they were bought by amazon, so that when I was out I could tell the hermes guy to put the parcel not in the bin but behind the bin, and also so that I didn't have to answer when the chancer calls who wants to sell me a new roof when he can see from the road that a tile has slipped.

Anyway, I notice now when I log in to the ring app it boldly states that their mission is to "reduce crime in neighbourhoods".

I hate to get all godwin's law (although of course its inevitable, dems the rules) and stasi-ish but amazon/ring are openly saying 'our mission is to build a video surveillance network so that we can help catch crims' - as in they're our new under-police force who can work out the crims from the not crims, and share all the data and video they have if they need to because a crim is dangerous and no one wants dangerous crims about. So in effect I'm watching you - crim. And don't worry if you're not a crim because amazon can tell if you buy stuff from them and you will be ok.

My view is that is creepy in every sense of the word. You - outside my front door, can unplug your tv from the internet and not speak to alexa as much as you like, but we're watching you walk past and you can't stop us watching you.

So I'm with team paranoia - things are not going in the right direction if we don't do something - human nature is to push boundaries, and the boundaries on sharing data already seem to be strained - if not already broken. It's a cliche but we are in danger of sleep-walking into something our children are going to have a really hard time undoing.

Still, it's convenient that I don't have my hermes parcels taken away by the bin men once a week - so I'm thinking a reasonable compromise is to cancel prime and disconnect my tv from the internet, for a month.


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 9:44 am
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This is the thing, even if you opt out your friends/neighbours/FB friends etc will still be sharing an awful lot of information about you, mostly unwittingly.


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 11:58 am
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In the last decade big tech companies have risen from nowhere to dominate the planet.

Just a decade ago there was a mix of tech, banks, oil, cars, comerce etc at the top of whatever metric you care to use (market cap, total revenue etc)

Now its pure tech and they literally shape our world, terraforming our behaviour to fit their values, values that are completely at odds with important issues like climate change, child poverty, political accountability and human individuality.

They can do this through the use of big data sets. They aren't interested in you but they are very much interested in us. Big data gives them huge power and that gives them untold wealth, with which they can continue to distort the future of our planet.

Anyone who thinks they 'can't seem to do much with our data' is a fool. Its the new gold rush and like that old frontier, once again the law is struggling to keep up.


 
Posted : 01/10/2021 1:45 pm
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