[Closed] Am I the only one that find gun threads distasteful?

Ignorant and clueless

That and in England records are kept by the force that made the conviction. You could make an IT system to centralise everything but, you know...

Records of convictions are a mixed bag. The PNC holds records of all recordable offences, that is to say indictable and either way offences as well as certain summary only.

Non-recordable offences like penalty notices and most traffic offences are recorded locally only, so they want to know where to go and look for them.

The PNC keeps the record until the offender's 100th Birthday, and prior to 2006 certain types of offences were weeded out. Nowadays no weeding out is done. However, there may be archived local paper references from legacy records, although the chances of tracking them down are slim!

Local systems are thorough and comprehensive. Information of all incidents on the most common local system, NICHE, is kept sine die, and as many of he UK forces use NICHE, it is improving in interoperability.

I was convicted of a traffic offence in 1979 at Oxford Magistrates Court. Not even the most diligent search has been able to find a record of it.

So they can see if you try to lie about it and thus immediately prove yourself a wrong ‘un?

You'd be surprised how many fall at this hurdle. I've heard it said that some departments will cash the cheque before they do the search, and some of those caught out will argue bitterly for a refund!

We all have things we just don't understand.

I, admittedly irrationally, think that anyone who enjoys watching MMA is a psychopath and shouldn't been allowed near children.

But I'm perfectly fine with people saying they derive enjoyment from using guns (which is fortunate as I do myself).

I don't like MMA but I appreciate it is a sport, and crucially both parties are there voluntarily and most likely no-one's going to die.

If you're gonna get on your high horse about guns then by all means criticise hunting, shooting and fishing or indeed any 'sport' that chooses to harm wildlife for entertainment. I really enjoyed watching Paul Whitehouse and Bob Mortimer recently but it was strange to see fishing portrayed as such a peaceful occupation, and Paul lovingly putting the fish back that he just stabbed through the face!
Can't see why anyone can get uppity about target shooting, it's just a sport / pastime like any other.

I wonder idly whether people objecting to shooting wildlife are veggie / vegan. Kinda hypocritical to complain about using guns for pest control (and that's all that was on the air rifle thread other than target shooting, no-one was out bagging deer last I looked) and then sit down to a nice cow-burger with a few slices of pig on top.

As a card-carrying tree-hugging yoghurt-knitter I've the utmost respect for people who are happy to kill and prepare what they eat. Folk who are squeamish about that but will happily stuff it in their faces so long as someone else does all the unpleasant wetwork first, not so much. (Which is one of the reasons I'm vegetarian, I couldn't do it.)

Title of the air rifle thread was pretty clear just move on if it's not for you unless of course you wanted to be offended.
Curious what the average joe is and how would you know what he/she/other genders thoughts are as there must be quite a lot of them.

As a card-carrying tree-hugging yoghurt-knitter I’ve the utmost respect for people who are happy to kill and prepare what they eat. Folk who are squeamish about that but will happily stuff it in their faces so long as someone else does all the unpleasant wetwork first, not so much. (Which is one of the reasons I’m vegetarian, I couldn’t do it.)

Conversely, as someone who puts fresh game meat on the table, including venison, I have more respect for the vegetarian who declares it not for them than I do for those who will argue blind that shooting and pest control is cruel, yet will happily eat their own weight in farmed and processed meat day in day out.

My son has been shooting with me since he was about four years old. Both he and his sister happily helped to skin and prepare rabbits and gamebirds from quite an early age. My son became a bit evangelical about it all. He even got a holiday job at a small local abattoir so that he could be fully conversant with all the processes involved. He recently worked on a Scottish estate where part of his role was deer management, and started a relationship with a lass on the island who is a vegetarian. She is very much against the raising and consumption of animals in a farm setting, but happily went with him to see him stalk and cull wild deer. Afterwards she helped with the gralloch, skinning and butchery, even to the point of helping to prepare a head for mounting. The acid test was passed when she very much enjoyed a loin steak. Rare.

I have no idea what a "gralloch" is, and on reflection I think I'd rather not change that ignorance.

We went to a shooting range in Murica the other week and fired Beretta 92 9mm handguns, just like Martin Riggs off of Lethal Weapon - it was awesome! 😀

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I have no idea what a “gralloch” is, and on reflection I think I’d rather not change that ignorance.

And ye dinna want to be gralloched... 🙂

Part of the point of a TV show is to show something that isn’t just your regular life. (Though this doesn’t explain the love of Corrie or Reality shows)

Your life is like Coronation Street? Like literally O M G!

when telly watching was introduced in Bhutan violent crime increased. This was attributed to folk viewing violence on the telly.

Gun threads on here don't bother me in the slightest. Grown men getting moist about Lego is much more of a concern.

When I was growing up it was television rotting kids’ minds, in my parents’ era it was rock & roll, go back far enough and we were burning books.

About 80 years, give or take, in Germany. More recently in ‘Murica, IIRC, and possibly even here.

We went to a shooting range in Murica the other week and fired Beretta 92 9mm handguns, just like Martin Riggs off of Lethal Weapon – it was awesome! 😀

If I get a chance I would like to shoot some CZ75 or Steyr AUG M3 in Thailand. 😀

I find them distasteful, but I also find endless threads with people mithering on about which expensive, polluting company car to get distasteful too, I just ignore them.

Guns are just a tool. Whats the hype. I am former SF and now run a bodyarmour company making plate carriers for the SOF community. I should love guns but meh, just stuff to get the job done. Made for a reason. Nice to stay current with weapon/gear development but it gets old. Stay current in tactics.

Although I do like pre 1900 stuff and if I collected. It would be mostly blackpowder and early, like first gen cartridges. Early blackpower revolvers.

But then there is Lego. My passion.

Always fancied a black powder pistol but no time to join a club. Was a good shot on .22 at school.

I am former SF

Sex Fiend?

My mate is a member of a black powder club - he says they are a strange bunch!! 😀

Yeah thats it. Everyone on my team was a cheater. Gf in every port.

1858 Remington blackpowder revolver. So fun to shoot. More than any modern stuff. Even a minigun IMO.

I didn't mention it above but I also discovered in my neighbours garage a William IV cavalry pistol

Just finished 24 year career. I'm happy I'll be weapon free from now on. Used to be an absolute nerd with it but as most of my weapons were belt-fed, shooting outside the Army doesn't interest me.

Totally get why people want to target/sport/hunt shoot. More power to you. As for distasteful; Wilkos have offers on dustpan/brush sets to sweep that sand out of your vagina.

Yeah outside its over. End of chapter and time to let go. 150mph to Zero. Not easy but mtb helps!

in beltfed, mostly 5.56 and a few special machineguns that we had chambered in .338 lap magnum. Nice reach 🙂

As for distasteful; Wilkos have offers on dustpan/brush sets to sweep that sand out of your vagina.

Nice bit of casual sexism, people have different views and can express them if that upsets you feel free to get a dust pan and brush from Wilkos.....

I’m more of a torpedo man myself.

7.62 and .50cal

From moving platforms at moving targets. Those were fun and demanding range days.

The latter out to 1800m closing at 120kts.

Some days I miss it, some days so glad that that's no longer my life. If I never see another desert again, that'll still be too soon.

Nice work, that takes a lot of practice.

As for deserts. Man tried every performance fabric to stay cool. I had the pleasure of mostly walking in mountains and villages.

I miss it too but the next chapter begins. The military machine keeps moving. Just enjoy the freedom.

Word brother, that it does.

I was in the outdoors so much for work, the enduro mtb thing keeps me sane. Big climbs, mountains, the dh part. Like Infil, blow shit up at the top and exfil back down 😀 If I do not get out for a few days I go nuts. Used to doing the mileage in the hills.

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I’m more of a torpedo man myself.

Spray and pray type here.

........find them distasteful and if I’m honest a little strange ?

(snip)
Ultimately guns are ........disgusting.

If you really want to pretend to be in the army or terrorist ............you can all get hardons together.

To the average joe guns etc are pathetic.

....... rambos telling me I’m wrong.

Now run along toy army folk !!

@anagallis_arvensis not in any way defending the casual sexism of the sandy vagina comment, but the OP managed to include an entire raft of insult, contempt and angst into their opening salvo. Most of which appear to be targeted specifically at negative male stereotypes , which is ironic considering that the member who started the air rifle thread was a woman!

but the OP managed to include an entire raft of insult, contempt and angst into their opening salvo

Fair point.

Any other Olympic sports the OP has an issue with?

I'm not in the least bit interested in shooting things with a pulse, but I do like target shooting. As for clays - well I'm useless. But a Steyr Lp10 is a work of art for air pistol shooting of paper targets - what exactly is the issue with that? It also requires no kit! If you think Stortroopers on Enduro bikes is a thing, you should see my step-father's 22 rifle shooting kit!

In the US I went 9mm pistol shooting for an education. It was great and my target shooting was better than I expected. But I prefer the air pistol.

Any other Olympic sports the OP has an issue with?

Cant speak for the op but I find boxing and the other fighting once distasful, not keen on the horse whipping ones either. And golf....I hate golf.

And golf

Well every day is a school day, the reintroduction of golf back into the summer Olympics had totally passed me by! And hopefully will continue to do so. I must have been to busy watching the shooting, fighting and horse whipping.

I find boxing and the other fighting once distasful

You'll have to be more specific, is that fencing, judo, karate or taekwondo?

I find gun threads (and penknife threads - in the guise of ‘every day carry’ ffs! ) distasteful and sad. The best defence seems to be that it is discussion about ‘the best tool for the job’. If your job is a gamekeeper, then more power to you. If you just think that you might be a gamekeeper one day then I just think you’re a sad ****.

Which is more sad, the threads themselves or someone taking the time to both read and reply to threads they have no interest in?

Which is more sad, the threads themselves or someone taking the time to both read and reply to threads they have no interest in?

You tell me. The original question was:

Am I the only one that find gun threads distasteful?

I would say no, as above. Plink away

fencing, judo, karate or taekwondo?

Fencing, cant say I've ever really watched but they dont actually try to hurt each other so I doubt its something I would switch off. Judo, Karate and Taekwondo I'm not sure I could distinguish, just dont like watching people get hit and kicks so maybe judo would be ok? Theres that odd wrestling too, never watched it though.

#outraged