[Closed] Am I making myself feel rubbish ?

Sounds like you might have Necrasiffs Meganoma.

I've no idea what it is as I've just made it up.

95 % of the time I feel great

Do you know how lucky you are?!

So 2 gels and about half a bottle of orange cordial on that ride, had a Salmon pasta Salad when i got home and this morning I felt like death, only mangaged to eat a Banana and had a couple of Coffees went work and felt sick. Got home about 2 pm and threw up.

I got like this around 11 years ago. Was feeling sick every day, and throwing up a bit. Was worried that i had stomach cancer or something.

Ditched the girlfriend and suddenly it stopped. Is there something underlying that is stressing you out?

Black pudding before a ride! I'd suggest something a bit more carby, like a banana, toast, light roll (barm) with limited filling ie no mayo, butter, anything fatty.

It could be the gels. I really don't get on well with simple sugars like that.

Get more sleep

?How much booze? How much coffee? How much water?

Sugar

very low on carbs, which you need for excercise, maybe some porridge before a ride or a brown bread roll with a bit of nutella during the ride instead of gels. don't neglect veg and fruit either

Smoke weed during rides, it might not help but you'll care less.

You poor thing, sounds like you need a bit of a lie down.

Sweet jesus, from the country that won them world wars, we ain't half gone down hill.

I got like this around 11 years ago. Was feeling sick every day, and throwing up a bit. Was worried that i had stomach cancer or something.

Ditched the girlfriend and suddenly it stopped. Is there something underlying that is stressing you out?

Manky fanny batter?

Surely if you're chucking up the next day, you must have eaten something that was off or disagreed with you for some reason. Or you have some kind of tummy bug? Dodgy fish or something. At least I've never heard of people chucking up due to exercise a day after the exercise.

Oh, on an unrelated note, 2 gels and a load of squash on an 18 mile 1 hour ride? That's tons to eat just for an hour. I doubt most people would even bother eating on a 1 hour ride, it's only an hour without eating.

You staying properly hydrated? I tend to feel pretty poor if I don't drink at least 2 litres of water a day, with 3 litres being optimal for me.

I would agree about the gels being unsettling...used them once during a race out of desperation. The result was not pleasant, and I have since returned to bars, ride shots and ham sandwiches! I don't bother with food for exercise of less than an hour, but make sure there is something pretty quick to make once I get home. Have you tried doing some core work, sit ups etc to redistribute yourself rather than starvation?

Try kicking out bread/gluten out of your diet for a few weeks, then dairy products to check if you're gluten or lactose intolerant. A colleague at work had similar symptoms (though felt a bit dreary more than 5% of the time), after may years and wasted visits to his doctor, did this and it turns out he's lactose intolerant. He's full of beans now.

Also is it seasonal? I've started to develop mild hayfever symptoms over the past couple of years, and one of the symptoms is that I have a feeling of a lack of energy and lethargy. An antihistamine can help. For me it seems to be rape seed pollen in particular, a bit of a problem as i'm surrounded by rape seed fields.

Two bits of advice from my old man might help, he was always good with words.... 'Are you a man or a mouse'
And.... 'Pull yourself together for ****sake'

HTH 😉

I wouldn't really have thought gels were necessary for a 90 minute ride - praps try without them next time. Maybe eat some nuts before or during if you get peckish.

If you're trying to shift stomach fat, lay off the carbs - I think there is quite a bit of evidence to suggest the consumption of carbohydrates encourages the body to store fat around your waist.

[s]Personally I don't have a problem with gels[/s] - actually come to think of it I was ill after about 12 hours of a 24 hour race 3 times in a row (3 times in 4 years, I missed one year). Fine for shorter than that, but I have to wonder if it was the gels/energy drink I was mainly subsisting on causing the problem. I have to admit I actually had similar problems going back years on longer races when I tended to survive on gels/energy drink for the first 12 hours or so. Tried switching brand, but it didn't seem to help, and given I never went that long in training, kind of hard to debug. The trouble being that at the intensity I tend to do that sort of event at it's very hard to stomach anything else.

Though for the OP, I don't see any need at all to take food on an hour and a quarter ride - just make sure your carb stores are full before you ride (which given your diet they may well not have been).

and some Special K

Well, that's an unusual thing to take for brekkie. Do you get whacked up on that stuff every morning?

I was feeling worse and worse as the day went on today, by half six I was ready to go to bed, but instead I went for a quick 17 mile road ride.
Six Strava PR's and on one climb I improved my place from 21st to 5th.
I feel so much better now.

BTW as far as diet goes I'm living on a diet of mostly Tesco's Strawberry Trifle due to cancer treatment on my neck earlier in the year making eating unpleasant.

My tip to the OP would be "cut out the salad" its only any use to rabbits.

Dibbs, have you tried baby food yet?

The mushy stuff you get in jars.

95 % of the time I feel great, lots of energy and alert but, occasionally, I have a really bad Day / half Day where I feel like I've sink a dozen Vodkas.

Welcome to the real world

So 2 gels and about half a bottle of orange cordial on that ride,

For a one hour ride on top of a pretty substantial amount of food through the day! No wonder you felt like crap. No need for additional food for a 1 hr ride.

How long had the black pudding and salmon pasta been in the fridge for? Sounds more like you ate something dodgy rather than not eating enough.

Are you regular?

Ditch the gels, just no need. Black pudding before a ride...that's just weird. You've had brekie and lunch and you're having tea after your ride. So no need for anything but some water.

Toughen up Buttercup.

Is it morning sickness?

In no particular order:

1x the event is not enough evidence, you need to replicate the experiment until a pattern emerges, then change one thing at a time.

Sick the next day? IME tummies expel dodgy food/drink pretty much immediately via one end or the other.

Good 95% of the time? Lucky you.

It's natural to have peaks and troughs in emotion/energy.

Agreed re hayfever, lots of people I know are experiencing symptoms for the first time in their lives.

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BTW as far as diet goes I'm living on a diet of mostly Tesco's Strawberry Trifle due to cancer treatment on my neck earlier in the year making eating unpleasant.

Too much protein wont help i.e. the black pudding.

How concentrated in the cordial? Weak or strong? If its too strong thats only going to sit on top of the black pudding - those two alone could quite easily give you a gastric upset.

How fresh was the Salmon Pasta? That could have made you sick. As could being dehydrated & too much coffee upset the gut.

Cordial makes me feel queezy when exercising, I stick to water, or adding a hydro tab to water.