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Had a V6 Animal handheld thing. But flimsy but it did an OK job and liked the whole cordless thing.

It met an untimely end and I'm looking for a replacement.

Are there any good alternatives. I would have another, but I don't want to give money to that Brexit ****er, so what are my options?

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 8:25 pm
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Looking to replace our Dyson as well, and looking to other brands for the exact same reason.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 8:41 pm
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How bizarre, I thought we were the only ones. Had an arguement with the missus about this last year. We agreed we needed to try to keep the cash in our economy if possible and try to support industry in our country. So we bought a Meile.

The missus is a kraut and the kids have dual nationality. The best I can do for the is try to keep manufacturing going in their second country at least. Even if that ****er Dyson has off shored all his production to the far east (and voted Brexit)

Felt very weird, but the wife was right. Support our kids by not buyin British...

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 8:54 pm
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Ours of ten years finally gave up the ghost last year. Thought we'd give one of those Sharks a try.

Managed to break it in about 10 days. Took it back and swapped for another Dyson.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 8:54 pm
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It's getting pretty dusty in here and the tree is coming down tomorrow, needles everywhere.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 8:59 pm
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Our shark is awesome! **** Dyson!

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:02 pm
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We have a Henry and a Dyson.

The cleaner uses the Henry to actually clean things, (she actually asked for a Henry vacuum and a Shark steam cleaner), everyone else uses the Dyson for fun.

Henrys are also made and built in the UK in a well run unionised factory and they even pay tax.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:02 pm
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The best I can do for the is try to keep manufacturing going in their second country at least. Even if that **** Dyson has off shored all his production to the far east
All he has off-shored is the mass production stuff. He still has a huge base in the UK and does more for British manufacturing and engineering than pretty much anyone with his support for graduate engineers plus his education centres and bursaries. Can't say I support his brexit stance at all but he is pretty much the only brexiteer to put up some semblance of a reasonable argument.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:02 pm
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Dyson not an option. Like weathersp@@ns, not getting my money.

The Miele any good then?

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:03 pm
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Miele was a wedding vouchers purchase, so been going strong for 8+ years, through a serious amount of DIY and four kids. (I had to replace the switch a few years ago, cost me about a tenner)

Dyson we had before it lasted less than half that, and emptying it was a mess, even if he wasn't a Brexit supporting ****, I'd not buy one of his crappy things!

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:10 pm
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Funny, I'm in the same situation. The wife wanted a Dyson, but after 2 years it's not doing so well, and she says we need a replacement. I'm not inclined to buy another expensive toy, and we have a cleaner who's not very mechanically sympathetic, so I'm interested in alternatives.

And my mind turned to Henry - there must be a reason why office/ school/ etc cleaners always Henries (Henrys? Henrii?).

So I will watch with interest.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:12 pm
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The wife wanted a Dyson, but after 2 years it's not doing so well,

Have you tried replacing the filters they go like brand new after that.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:16 pm
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It's getting pretty dusty in here and the tree is coming down tomorrow, needles everywhere.

You're crying because Christmas is over?! Grow up!

😉

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:16 pm
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Sebo.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:18 pm
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Miele here too, it's been great!

The last Dyson was not as good quality as the previous one, despite being damn expensive. Lasted 3 or 4 years and that was it - gone!

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:24 pm
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Bugger. Just bought a V6 yesterday - Henry is taking up too much cupboard space.

Done a fair amount of review searching which took Vax and Hoover out of contention. Poor performance and faulty batteries seem common place.

Shark were on the shortlist, but models seem to be coming in at almost double the V6 deal price.

[stealth] Anyone fancy a lightly used 2-3 year old Henry? [/stealth] Now just sat there, gathering dust...

 
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Sebo +1

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 9:59 pm
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We agreed we needed to try to keep the cash in our economy

Perhaps pay someone to fix it then - spend money on people rather than things.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 10:12 pm
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Miele is the one to go for, I cant afford one so have my parents hand me down one which they had for a number of years before it came to me (although has a much tougher job in my house)

Had a "james" which is like a henry which is a real workhorse and just keeps going but not quite the outright power of the miele.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 10:22 pm
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Hmmm, I don't know where they are made but we bought a Vax at the start of 2017 because our old Samsung vacuum was getting louder & louder.

Prior to the Samsung, we had a Dyson - it was OK, but not all that great. And it was heavy.

The Samsung was much more effective at cleaning the carpets and cost about 1/3 of the price of the Dyson. It lasted perhaps 7 or 8 years.

The Vax we bought was in a Jan sale and was reduced from something like £290 to £140.
It's bloody good. The main suction bit lifts off (like the Shark ones) so you can carry it up the stairs. It is very sucky & works well. The dust collector is a bit small though & the design around the brushbar isn't great; my Wife's hair gets caught in the ends of it.

But, for the few negatives I don't feel the need to spend Dyson money on a erm, Dyson.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 10:28 pm
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We have a G-tech one. Seems pretty good, service has also been good. Wife refused to have a Dyson because the one we had was so shonky; this has been much better. As a bonus, it's not a Dyson.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 10:28 pm
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You're crying because Christmas is over?! Grow up!

I smashed up the Dyson over a month ago. It's literally getting dusty in here.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 10:30 pm
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Second SEBO. Got ours off a friend who has a carpet cleaning business. It literally wipes the floor with a Dyson. One motor for the brush and one for the suction. It was about 10 years old when we got it 6 years ago! We also have a Dyson. I hate how the hand tool is part of the handle. It’s the worst design I’ve ever seen and a total pig to use. Form over function.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 10:39 pm
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The Vax we bought was in a Jan sale and was reduced from something like £290 to £140.
It's bloody good.

The problem I've had with (other people's) Vax's is they seem to have dozens models - all doing pretty much the same thing in a trivially different form factor. Makes it a really pain in the arse identifying the right consumables for them and then stock availability is poor because there are more versions of drive belts etc than retailers can be bothered to stock.

On the plus side compared to Dysons and Mieles they've very light - so I've bought them for elderly relatives. Then replaced them because people with altzheimers aren't prepared to wait two weeks for a rubber band on back order.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 10:43 pm
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We have a Henry, yes it is cumbersome, has a bag and not as pretty as a Dyson. But.... It cleans 10x better and is 1/4 the cost.
We've had three Dysons over about 5 years. All had issues, belts breaking repeatedly, clogging and jamming - everything was fixable and replaceable which was great. But Would never go back to Dyson now - other than bag changes I've not had to touch the Henry.

 
Posted : 04/01/2018 11:12 pm
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All he has off-shored is the mass production stuff. He still has a huge base in the UK and does more for British manufacturing and engineering than pretty much anyone with his support for graduate engineers plus his education centres and bursaries.

What on earth is his non-mass production stuff? That would be a fraction of his business.

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 6:48 am
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What on earth is his non-mass production stuff?

Prototypes, 3d printing (etc.), design, research & development are in the UK and that's about it.

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 7:24 am
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What on earth is his non-mass production stuff? That would be a fraction of his business.

Have you had your head in the sand? They are designing a car.

They have enough staff in the UK that the current site is overcrowded and they are building a huge new one. Also recruiting heavily.

 
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He employs 3500 people in the UK all highly skilled engineering and R&D jobs and from a wide variety of countries. He's expanding his uk operations, setting up a Science and Enigneering 'University' to encourage more engineers and scientists I the UK. All his intellectual property is based in the UK and he's developing his new EV in the UK.

His highly automated production lines are in Malaysia so the products themselves are assembled abroad...but so will over 90% of all the other products in your home and the clothes you wear and the bikes you ride etc.

Oh and he pays his taxes in the UK. Properly too.

If you ever get a chance to go round his UK facility it is a truly inspiring and impressive place to be. One of the few remaining British proper innovative engineering companies.

His hoovers are not the best out there, but they're pretty good and use a lot less powerful motors than their rivals and get an energy rating of A instead of D, if that is of interest to people. And that is a D when the bags are empty and not clogged and efficiency drops off.

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 7:38 am
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wobbliscott - Yeah, I've got nothing against the guy.

I just think that his products are very expensive & don't seem to work much better (if any) than cheaper alternatives.
The Dyson we had was heavy & unwieldy & while we thought it was working OK, it was only when we replaced it with a much cheaper Samsung upright that we realised how little it had been picking up.
Admittedly, the Samsung didn't look as fancy but it sits hidden in a cupboard for 99% of the time, so for me it's a non issue.
I can see for people who perhaps live in a flat & hang their cordless vacuum on the wall, they might want something that looks a bit more trendy.

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The problem I've had with (other people's) Vax's is they seem to have dozens models - all doing pretty much the same thing in a trivially different form factor. Makes it a really pain in the arse identifying the right consumables for them and then stock availability is poor because there are more versions of drive belts etc than retailers can be bothered to stock.

Yeah, there does seem to be a crazy wide range of subtly different Vax's out there. I can see it being a pain for retailers.
But, I just went onto the AO website, filtered for the price range we could afford & chose the one in that range that had the features we wanted.
Whether we'll be able to get belts & filters for it in 3 years time remains to be seen!

 
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wobbliscott - Yeah, I've got nothing against the guy.

I just think that his products are very expensive & don't seem to work much better (if any) than cheaper alternatives.

You certainly do pay a Dyson premium. But then he's developing an EV so has to get revenue from somewhere.

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 8:08 am
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He's got 3500 staff, invests heavily in R&D and still can't make a hoover that doesn't fall apart.

Can't wait to see how reliable his car will be, im sure it'll look pretty though!

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 8:16 am
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Wasn't this thread supposed to be about handheld cordless alternatives? Not sure how Henrys and Sebos etc. fit into that?

 
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The thing I admire about Dyson is that he understood the truism that humans love things that give the maximum effect for the least effort and he allowed users to see the dust they have collected as a reward for their efforts. That a Dyson collects dust less effectively then, say, a Henry and breaks a lot (my local repair shop has a herd of about 40 sad looking Dysons standing waiting for spare parts) is less relevant. A pal of mine has done work at Dyson's mansion where there is a permanent staff of around 50 gardeners, electricians, painters, plumbers, general builders, all beetling around doing improvements and maintenance so no harm to the bloke for creating business and employment.

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 8:20 am
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[url= https://www.dyson.co.uk/robot-vacuums/dyson-360-eye-nickel-blue.html ]Dyson Robot?[/url]

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 8:24 am
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[i]Wasn't this thread supposed to be about handheld cordless alternatives?[/i]

You must know people only read the title.... whack away in the reply box, post. Job done. Reading the OP's actual question? Pah!

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 8:26 am
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True.

Anyway as I was saying, DE razors are too much hassle, I'm sticking with Gillette.

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 8:28 am
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Very happy with our meile, a planet killing 2000W model inherited from Dad's parents. It's put up with some grotty clear up jobs that I've felt bad putting it through - loads of fine mortar dust from drilling out bricks and opening up a fireplace.

The "suck meter" that tells you when to empty the bag doesn't work that well, but it's a 2 second job to open and give the bag a prod if you think the power's down a bit.

Would recommend.

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 8:35 am
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Still using a Dc01 and a DC04 here - dc01 over 20yrs old now. The've had pieces changed over the years - youtube is full of videos on how to repair them. Triggers broom for the new age.

The DC01 is starting to struggle though to be fair - dog fluff and chewed up plastic bottles are taking their toll

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 8:40 am
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Ooh look, FuzzyWuzzy ^^^ more handhelds! 😆

 
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Missed the bit about handhelds, actually find the v6 ok for picking up biscuit crumbs, cleaning key boards etc

 
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I've no idea what Dysons you lot use but mine's strong and durable, and was the only one except a stupidly expensive Miele which had a rotary brush head when I bought it over ten years ago. It's not gone wrong once. Do you hoover your garden or something?

 
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Timely thread. I'd relegated my Dyson to light duties anyhow because of its rubbishness. First run through the house with the Miele revealed exactly how little it had been picking up. The Dyson finally decided to shed bits of plastic this morning and refuse to be reassembled.

So what non-dyson little handheld rechargeable thingy?

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 10:54 am
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Have you had your head in the sand? They are designing a car.

Not quite -I just don't read the telegraph who seems to be his personal P.R dept.

 
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Miele. Like a Dyson except quiet, reliable, affordable and made in Europe.

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 11:50 am
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I have a Bosch one, uses the same batteries as my drills.
Has a light on it to see dark bits, sucks up stuff of the floor, cat hair off the couch is lightweight and lasts 20 mins on a 1.5ah battery (I have 3, and they charge in 20 mins anyway).
Cost about £70 for bare tool.

So, if you have a rechargeable drill set, maybe the company makes a vacuum?

You could look at Roombas too?

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 11:57 am
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Miele. Like a Dyson except quiet, reliable, affordable and made in Europe.

And not handheld and not cordless (unless you count the robot)...

 
Posted : 05/01/2018 3:21 pm
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Our friend cleans Dyson's house and uses a Henry.

 
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And not handheld and not cordless (unless you count the robot)...

The OP asked about Miele.

 
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Went for a Bosch in the end. A company with an openly anti Brexit stance.

In their statement, the Bosch group declared that they believed that the EU is a successful project and that the group was disappointed by the decision to take the UK out of the world’s largest single market, with the group disclosing that this regret was not solely due to economic reasons. The group stated that they felt that the long-term economic consequences would only gradually become apparent.

That'll do me.

Dys@on can stick his brexit vacuum up his arse.

 
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