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Truss hates Mordaunt.
Obvs Mordaunt makes her look dim by comparison but then so does your average pine cone.
But Penny's hair and dress sense are just so much better than Liz's. She'd look much better in Vogue too.
Soz Liz, but you were always going to be exposed in the end. 😢
Is it all over? Will I find the roads quiet on my ride before dinner?
Finally…..
were you standing or sitting after?
Sat down in Bella Italia in the photo...
was the theme from Dragnet considered for Charles walking up the aisle?
At on point I did think we were going to get duel of the fates.
Am surprised my 14yr old son wanted to watch a bit of it.
I'd like to see the ceremony modernised, maybe bring the crown in by drone, lasers and fog machine in throne instead of some stone, king glides out on hoverboard at the end.
I look forward to your explanation as to what you are going to do with your share. Just as soon as you’ve done some research on how successful those kind of policies have been in places like the Soviet Union, Zimbabwe etc.
Tell me more about your analysis of the impact of expropriation of land from the Russian aristocracy on agricultural production.
At on point I did think we were going to get duel of the fates.
https://twitter.com/huntercrowder6/status/1654830843150364672?s=21
Thought this was a Remco thread
Thanks for the photos monkeyboyjc, you've made an old lady very happy. Memories for you to hold onto for the rest of your life.
Thanks monkeyboyjc!
Proper republican here but always keen to see how far the tentacles of STW actually reach.
I’ll bet pistonheads and mumsnet didn’t rep at the historical freak show Coronation
Thanks for the photos monkeyboyjc, you’ve made an old lady very happy. Memories for you to hold onto for the rest of your life.
Now, I'm up for a bit of letting people be what they'll be. But that's a bit obsequious.
Tell me more about your analysis of the impact of expropriation of land from the Russian aristocracy on agricultural production.
Something about peasants not being able to get their act together unless guided by a paternalistic hand sort of thing?
But that’s a bit obsequious.
How so? If Bunnyhop says something makes her happy why would you doubt her?
Ah well went to the beach and had a nice long walk,yep need to jog but easing myself in.
Came back and it was at the coronating bit.
Mrs DoD had said they’d been at it for quite a while with the singing,it’s definitely a bit of a weird thing to watch in this day and age and tbh I liked having this bonkers thing played out to show how mad it all is.
I’d have gone if invited, just to see the mad spectacle.
Isn’t the real travesty the sycophantic reporting on it.
The arresting of protesters prior was very naughty but tbh what do you think all the new laws are for, this showed exactly where the power is and just how it’s going to be used.
One of our young Scout leaders was part of the crowd control on the Mall - 16 hour day but has some great photos and met some terrific people. All while being a republican.
Had a meal last night with friends who'd watched it on TV together and come up with some sort of Coronation Buzzword Bingo drinking game. The hangovers were kicking in about 9pm, despite a bit of hair of the dog 🤣
I hope the Coronation buzzword bingo bods had ‘beseech’. Definitely a costly one courtesy of the men with big hats.
Well it was nice to see the lovely Penny dishing out the swords. She should’ve got the top job. Lovely hair.
The fly past was a bit disappointing. If you’re going to do it at all, do it properly.
The arresting of protesters prior was very naughty
It's ok, I'm sure the Police will only ever arrest people who really deserve it.
I think it's piss funny that 2 women were arrested for carrying rape alarms.
She should’ve got the top job. Lovely hair.
You have obviously forgotten what happened the last time someone with lovely blonde hair was given the top job.
I prefer Mick Lynch's minimalist coiffure.
Well, I hope all the monarchists had a nice day.
These women's safety volunteers didn't:
Well, I hope all the monarchists had a nice day.
These women’s safety volunteers didn’t:
They obviously didn't want Randy Andy to be inconvenienced if he decided he fancied a bit.
Well it was nice to see the lovely Penny dishing out the swords. She should’ve got the top job. Lovely hair.
You know a thread is past it’s best when even the usual trolls stop making an effort .
There was a strong plan to frighten horses with rape alarms, so without that undertone it would be fine.
The "Down with this sort of King" protesters have 363 other days to make their point. Clearly, this weekend, Plod are going to be hyper sensitive and may overreact.
Mokeyboi has had a great day and good on him for diving in. I thought the pageantry was great. My mate the Marine was as pleased as anything to be marching up and down in his shiny buttons; why not?
The ritual stuff in the Abbey was utterly weird and needs throwing in the bin of history along with ducking witches in the village pond
And when I saw Nick Cave in the crowd I so hoped Chaz was walking out to "Red Right Hand"
There was a strong plan to frighten horses with rape alarms, so without that undertone it would be fine.
The “Down with this sort of King” protesters have 363 other days to make their point. Clearly, this weekend, Plod are going to be hyper sensitive and may overreact.
I love people who just assume it will always be someone else who the police choose to 'overreact' to and therefore it's all fine.
The ritual stuff in the Abbey was utterly weird and needs throwing in the bin of history along with ducking witches in the village pond
All the way through the weird stuff all i could think was that South Park episode!
The fly past was a bit disappointing. If you’re going to do it at all, do it properly.
Apparently is was to do with the low cloud and poor visibility.
The “Down with this sort of King” protesters have 363 other days to make their point. Clearly, this weekend, Plod are going to be hyper sensitive and may overreact.
I think the point might have been to do it while someone was watching.
You'll be telling me next that workers should only go on strike on their days off so it doesn't inconvenience their employers.
Apparently is was to do with the low cloud and poor visibility.
Ahh, thanks for that. I imagine it was probably explained in the commentary only I was watching it on mute with music on.
Planes were all getting ready over Anglia but then they got sent home (these are all military)
Shame. Bloody love a good airshow. Was taken to some belters as a kid at various bases around Cambridgeshire, Alconbury etc. Have they been banned now?
Was this yesterday? Damn missed it.
Less airshows these days but they still exist. Southport, Cosford, Fairford, Torbay all decent but not Cold War decent if that’s your expectation / experience.
I think the point might have been to do it while someone was watching.
You’ll be telling me next that workers should only go on strike on their days off so it doesn’t inconvenience their employers.
If you can't get an audience except for one weekend in 70 years, maybe your point isn't as important as you might think. Despite you really, really caring. A lot.
What have these people been doing every Saturday since 1953?
As for your weird false equivalence about strikes, that's what our American cousins would call "a swing and a miss"
Arresting people for having rape alarms is somewhat dystopian. But arresting them for handing them out en masse at an event such as the coronation, it really doesn't take a great deal of mental gymnastics to see why.
Anyway. New monarch, same shitty people. RustyNissanPrarie is gonna be busy.
https://twitter.com/tweetsofcol/status/1654991682729803776
But arresting them for handing them out en masse at an event such as the coronation, it really doesn’t take a great deal of mental gymnastics to see why.
Does handing them out at 2:00 AM count as 'at the event'?
What have these people been doing every Saturday since 1953?
Protesting at other events.
There was a strong plan to frighten horses with rape alarms, so without that undertone it would be fine.
Why are people so credulous? Why would Westminster Council be handing out rape alarms at 2am in Soho so that ten hours later they could be used to "scare horses"?
Why are Met Police horses so remarkably timid? Apparently their safety also required the seizure of a dangerous...megaphone.
This all belongs in the big book of Met Off-The-Record Bullshit for the Press, along with "Jean Charles Menezes jumped the barrier", "we didn't seize any items", "the man in police uniform that battered Ian Tomlinson and caused his death might not be a police officer", "Harry Stanley pointed a table leg at us as if it were a gun so that we would shoot him", and all the rest.
https://news.sky.com/story/police-arrested-volunteers-handing-out-rape-alarms-over-coronation-disruption-concerns-12875150
https://news.sky.com/story/kings-coronation-anti-monarchy-group-leader-among-activists-arrested-on-way-to-protest-site-12874307
https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/17561158.boat-race-police-lied-conduct-fossil-fuel-protest/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/12/ian-tomlinson-police-apology
https://www.huckmag.com/article/harry-stanley-a-tragic-case-of-mistaken-identity
I used to live with one of these professional protester types. My god he was insufferable. Not knocking anyone’s reasons or rights to protest, I’ve been to a few myself. But he would literally protest about anything. It was kind of a scene. Always hectoring you about the environment and ****ty little bits of recycling etc whilst flying off to more foreign festivals and holidays per year than I’ve had in my life.
I think the problem they have is that people have grown wise to it. They know it’s just attention seeking for social media. Look at the stop oil types for example. It doesn’t even work effectively, just gets people’s backs up and damages their cause.
But arresting them for handing them out en masse at an event such as the coronation, it really doesn’t take a great deal of mental gymnastics to see why.
This is a perfect demonstration of why the Met does what it does. It injects bullshit unattributable statements into the initial press reports, lets them circulate and become part of the bullshit online narrative spouted by people too lazy to check the story themselves, and then neither corrects nor owns those statements subsequently.
Anyway. New monarch, same shitty people. RustyNissanPrarie is gonna be busy.
That and all the tat and bunting being binned today. 🙁
Look at the stop oil types for example. It doesn’t even work effectively, just gets people’s backs up and damages their cause.
I agree with some of what you said but that's what was said about the Suffragettes back in the day.
It's also very JRM and GB News speak.
The Liz Truss stuff was particularly funny yesterday 😂
https://twitter.com/janehill64/status/1654778319756304385?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
https://twitter.com/garius/status/1654795075170304000?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
https://twitter.com/i_ammukhtar/status/1654777963513098241?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
https://twitter.com/seanbeegee/status/1654876731784720388?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
https://twitter.com/gusthefox/status/1654782930802057216?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ
I managed to go out on the bike all day and it was great. We rode loads of cheeky stuff , on a Saturday daytime, that’s normally the preserve of night rides only as there was nobody around. The presumption that all red socks are also flag-shaggers was most definitely correct 😃
I think the problem they have is that people have grown wise to it. They know it’s just attention seeking for social media. Look at the stop oil types for example. It doesn’t even work effectively, just gets people’s backs up and damages their cause.
To be fair, there's a big difference between most peaceful protests and Just Stop Oil, i've no clue who are behind JSO, but i was always under the belief that you protest to try and get public opinion on your side, i don't think i've ever seen JSO do anything that's not caused the public to despise them and their protests, honestly, throwing stuff on a snooker table, or smearing works of art, handcuffing yourself to football goals, it's not exactly made to influence opinion!
Down here around Bristol, there's a lot of protests, i've been stuck in some of them like the Extinction Rebellion ones, but they almost have a feel of a carnival float about them a few years back, i think yesterday's Rebellion folk weren't being anything other than civil from what i've seen, i think the hierarchy took the option of just arresting them all before, not having any dissenters on TV for the BBC and then in the next few days maybe an apology about being 'heavy handed' or whatever.
To be fair, there’s a big difference between most peaceful protests and Just Stop Oil, i’ve no clue who are behind JSO, but i was always under the belief that you protest to try and get public opinion on your side, i don’t think i’ve ever seen JSO do anything that’s not caused the public to despise them and their protests, honestly, throwing stuff on a snooker table, or smearing works of art, handcuffing yourself to football goals, it’s not exactly made to influence opinion!
The objective is to get the issue in the news. You may not like their methods but they work, and when the media ignore massive peaceful protests there seems to be no other way to get publicity.
But arresting them for handing them out en masse at an event such as the coronation, it really doesn’t take a great deal of mental gymnastics to see why.
Except, of course, that didn’t happen. Otherwise, good point, well made.
Whatever your views on the monarchy, some valuable lessons have been learnt this weekend about the right and wrong ways to protest. The most fundamental rule is obviously, don't cause a nuisance.
But as these attention-seeking hotheads seem incapable of following such a simple request, we will inevitably have to explore alternatives.
The most sensible solution is the creation of a state-sanction protest zone. A heavily fortified and remote location in which cameras/phones will not be permitted.
Organisers will simply have to obtain a permit and provide a full list of participants prior to the event. This would allow for basic pre-checks, home visits searches etc. Once green-lit, the state will provide full support.
This would uphold Britain's proud role as a champion of democracy and free speech while gaining an effective new way to gather the biometric data of risk elements.
Whatever your views on the monarchy, some valuable lessons have been learnt this weekend about the right and wrong ways to protest. The most fundamental rule is obviously, don’t cause a nuisance.
I think Wes Streeting said more or less the same thing this morning.
Did Penny Mourdant just make a pitch to be the next leader of the Conservative Party (albeit probably in opposition) or did I miss something?
Somehow managing to channel Boudica, Helen of Troy, Lady of the Lake and the lass from Game of thrones who uses dragons for taxis into one outfit.
Puts Liz Trust's pathetic Instagram efforts at self promotion to the sword.
The most sensible solution is the creation of a state-sanction protest zone. A heavily fortified and remote location in which cameras/phones will not be permitted.
What, Norfolk?
What, Norfolk?
Seems like an overly cruel punishment.
The most fundamental rule is obviously, don’t cause a nuisance.
The most fundamental rule is don’t obey the law by informing the police of your plans to peaceful protest. They will lie and agree to your plans, then at the last minute hide you away, remove your placards, and arrest key people involved.
I agree with some of what you said but that’s what was said about the Suffragettes back in the day.
A bunch of middle class posh types protesting to further their own interests?
Bit harsh, even if true. But luxury beliefs are timeless.
No probs – like I said I see part of the reasoning of inviting the 450 members of the public was to share the experience with their communities, STW is just a wider part of that.
Thanks, I enjoyed the photos. Always good to get a feel for the real thing up close. Had photos from relatives outside, but not nearly the same as your experience. Thanks again for sharing.
A bunch of middle class posh types protesting to further their own interests?
Bit harsh, even if true. But luxury beliefs are timeless.
Yeah that Annie Kenney was such a middle class posh type.
Did Penny Mourdant just make a pitch to be the next leader of the Conservative Party (albeit probably in opposition) or did I miss something?
Good lord I do hope so. Even I’d vote Tory then 😍
They’re probably keeping her in reserve as the big guns in case the other lot ever get their shit together (unlikely).
Met Police showcase new uniforms.
The Combine wouldn't have tolerated all that littering.
Well, I hope all the monarchists had a nice day.
These women’s safety volunteers didn’t:
Not really surprising given the met’s police attitude and behaviour towards rape and abuse of women, it could spoil their fun.
That link no longer exists for some reason.
Here's a BBC one.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-65516825.amp
What have these people been doing every Saturday since 1953?
I did wonder myself so I went and googled it.
They are constantly active but, obviously, their voice and presence are going to be noticed more when they protest on a day when the target of their protest is there ratifying the very thing they are opposed to.
Your suggestion that they should avoid protesting when this is the case and the world's press is in attendance seems like a poor strategy to be noticed.
I'm really not convinced that organising a protest when no-one is about would be the best strategy.
A bit like my false equivalence.
To be honest I really don't care that much, I just find the whole thing entertaining. I'll be dead in a few years so whether the Monarchy abolishes Parliament and rules from Buckingham Palace or they're all guillotined doesn't really make much difference to me.
Good lord I do hope so. Even I’d vote Tory then 😍
Big fan of the School Ma'am meets Dallasty Ball-Breaker thing, then?
"Met Police showcase new uniforms."
The first police uniforms were purposefully designed to appear as un-militaristic as possible (Peterloo massacre and all that).
Now the police look like they're ready for the trenches in Ukraine, they look more and more like soldiers as every year passes.
I'm seeing more police with sunglasses on these days, usually Oakleys for that 'operator' look. I remember an Ad for the Army a few years back, where a soldier on peace keeping duty was shown to get a much better reaction from the locals when he took them off.
There is also a tendency for the police to address the public with their hands in their chest pockets, in the 'ready for action' posture, not unlike Paulie Walnuts in the Sopranos (I remember the actor saying he always held his hands high and just in front of his chest as a threatening signal.)
A bit of posture and etiquette training wouldn't go amiss.
soldier on peace keeping duty was shown to get a much better reaction from the locals when he took them off.
Still taught. As is rear slinging your rifle, greeting in native language and use of deference as a tool to improve engagement.
Goes a long way. But our training is arguably longer and more consistent than the police, but for a very different role less some specialist units.
I'd still rather not do their job, seems they're let loose quite young and inexperienced to deal with complex situations with little support.
A bit of posture and etiquette training wouldn’t go amiss.
They're already getting it and the militaristic look is very much the one Patel and Braverman are aiming for.
Posture you say?
I wondered what Pat Mustard was up to nowadays?
Not all suffragettes were middle class and posh. Many were working class girls, taken to prison for protesting and force fed.
One Lady Constance Lytton was so outraged with the way these girls/women (many of them quite young) were treated, that she became one for an experiment and was jailed for 12 days, beaten and force fed.
The suffrage movement was made up of women from many different backgrounds, classes and ages. The 'posher' types got a bit more coverage and had a louder voice.
The Daily Mail's tactic of trying to discredit an entire group because one of them is called Hugo Spoffington-Smytffth is working well, I see.
Richard Littejohn.
Is that arse still putting his drivel down in writing?
Front cover of Private Eye sums it up in 6 words...
Man in hat sits on chair.
Front cover of Private Eye sums it up in 6 words…
Man in hat sits on chair.
I take it that all the ceremonials are now done? Or are there still arcane traditions being carried out in an official way? The tromboning of the guard or the ceremonial eating a slice of the pork pie of destiny - type thing?
Bunnyhop, Rebel Girls by Jill Liddington is superb on the subject.
Well worth a read.
The Daily Mail’s tactic of trying to discredit an entire group because one of them is called Hugo Spoffington-Smytffth is working well, I see
To be fair to the the Daily Mail (a sentence I never thought I’d ever utter) when their representatives have been interviewed on various news channels, Just Stop Oil have served up a succession of the kinds of clueless, trustafarian halfwits that the English private education system seems to specialise in shatting out into the world
Dying their hair pink and having a couple of piercings doesn’t fool anyone. You know that in 5 years time the pink hair will be gone and they’ll be working in daddy’s firm, going to the golf club and voting Tory