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Aliens and Nessie - pull the other leg !

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/13/1000-year-old-alien-corpses-shown-to-mexican-congress/

What's going on in the world ?  Dodgy alien corpses and grainy photos of 'ripples' in a Scottish Loch.

Come on, who are you kidding with the corpses ? - has Ant and Dec re-released that bad Alien Autopsy Movie Again.

Why can't people ever get a good photo on Loch Ness, despite camera technology.

Madness

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 2:25 pm
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See also big cat sightings. Always photographed with a potato, or so it seems. Grainy pics of someone's fat black Labrador or pie eating moggie.

 
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Posted : 14/09/2023 2:37 pm
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I'll go with Pie eating Moggies, especially Maine Coons !

These latest bodies are a laugh - come on, which pre school child made these out of clay ?

 
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big cat sightings

Where? 😉

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 2:54 pm
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Hhmmm now ya see....

I don't believe in Nessy or in the alien corpses BUT I'm kinda convinced that during the 1980's, on Exmoor, there was at least one big cat on the loose.

I made that very specific simply because I have/had some experience (not a sighting) on a farm, on Exmoor during the 1980's, with mutilated sheep. It looked conclusive to me :o)

BUT I'm not an expert on big cat attacks so....

 
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Where? 😉

A valid question for the last three posters.

 
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Flippin 'eck.  I'll never poo poo big cats sightings again. 3 on the one thread within minutes!

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 3:02 pm
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That  article starts with the words 'A discredited Ufologist' - is there any other kind?

 
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I made that very specific simply because I have/had some experience (not a sighting) on a farm, on Exmoor during the 1980’s, with mutilated sheep. It looked conclusive to me :o)

I am unfortunate enough to have witnessed the gruesome aftermath of a dog attack on sheep. 'Mutilated' is a very apt description. Grim. I'm not doubting you, but is it possible a dog or dogs caused what you saw?

 
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BUT I’m kinda convinced that during the 1980’s, on Exmoor, there was at least one big cat on the loose.

I had a conversation with a ranger in the Chilterns who more or less suggested the same thing. His suggestion was that eventually it just gets too expensive for some folks to keep a big cat and rather than have it put down, they sometimes just release them into their local forest. Most will die off pretty soon after that, but in the time they're free they can do quite a bit of damage to local sheep and deer populations.

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 3:15 pm
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If this is true, why are there not lots more feral children running around the woods? 🙂

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 3:21 pm
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Been taken by Aliens, of course !

 
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His suggestion was that eventually it just gets too expensive for some folks to keep a big cat and rather than have it put down, they sometimes just release them into their local forest. Most will die off pretty soon after that, but in the time they’re free they can do quite a bit of damage to local sheep and deer populations.

what does a wild (or formerly captive and released) cat of any size do when it knows it is nearing death? Do they hide, seek a water source, carry on til the point of collapse?

Exmoor (or anywhere else in England) is not exactly the most remote place on earth, surely some dog/dog walker would have come across a big cat corpse if this happens frequently.

 
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surely some dog/dog walker would have come across a big cat corpse if this happens frequently.

Big cat corpses are a primary food source of yer actual Bigfoots.

Cryptid circle of life, innit.

 
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what does a wild (or formerly captive and released) cat of any size do when it knows it is nearing death? Do they hide, seek a water source, carry on til the point of collapse?

There are estimated to be something like 10500-13000 mountain lions in the Montana/Oregon/Idaho region (top left hand corner). Very few folks  living in those states has ever seen one. An individual animal could hide themselves away from pretty much everything, and never get seen, and they'll just die of cold or starvation or disease and within a couple of months it's going to be a pile of bones, and a few years after that, it'll be just a dark patch under the leaf cover.

 
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There was a local documentary about that.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272747/

 
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Looks like a really bad model of ET........

 
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Montana/Oregon/Idaho region (top left hand corner). Very few folks  living in those states has ever seen one.

An area more than ten times as large as Scotland, but with a similar population.  The population density in the South of England (even Exmoor) is a little different.

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 4:27 pm
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the thing about big cats is that unless you are viewing them
from a distance, the first time you’re aware on them is when they are killing you. that is why all the pictures are grainy.

with the new iphone 15 we will soon be seeing crystal-clear images of all these things.

 
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@blokeuptheroad, oh for sure, but also a huge tonne more (than Exmoor) of very large predatory cats

The point the ranger was making was, these animals are very good at avoiding contact, very good at hearing you coming, and very good at being very difficult to see. One animal in a woodland the size of the Chilterns or an open space like Exmoor is going to disappear pretty much entirely in the short space of time that it'll survive, and when it dies, it's remains are likely never to be found.

 
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I see the Yeti is getting ignored once again.

 
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but more seriously

An area more than ten times as large as Scotland, but with a similar population. The population density in the South of England (even Exmoor) is a little different.

there will still be cougars living close to densely populated areas that don’t get seen. like bears, the ones that tend to be spotted are the young ones.

doesn’t mean there are big cats on the loose.

 
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@nick I agree if we are talking about a single animal, released from captivity. I understand there was a spate of this in the 1970s when the law on dangerous/exotic pets was much less strict. Not sure how likely that is now though, or for the last couple of decades. I think now, a private individual has to jump through quite a few hoops to be allowed to keep a big cat?

What I am more sceptical of, is what some people claim - a stable breeding population. There would be road kill, convincing images or even animals shot by farmers.

 
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I'd say it was likely a few big cats were released when the regs on private zoos were tightened in the 70s.

Very much doubt they were successful in terms of hunting and certainly breeding in the UK climate, so i doubt any sightings since the early 80s are genuine.

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 4:57 pm
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there will still be cougars living close to densely populated areas that don’t get seen

Last sighted 33 minutes ago - he's rubbish at keeping a low profile

 
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Yeah, @blokeuptheroad Ranger was on about exactly that, single animals being released when their owners realised it was going to only get harder and harder to keep them.

 
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At last, he's back to inject some humour into the place!

 
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I see the Yeti is getting ignored once again.

this reminds of a cartoon my son was watching, 3 woodland creatures found a sasquatch and befriended him (he was a he in the cartoon). when he discovered they called him bigfoot he got really upset.

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 5:02 pm
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Why can’t people ever get a good photo on Loch Ness, despite camera technology.

Surely that in itself is proof there are mysterious forces at play 😉

 
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Been watching the NASA news conference. Long story short, they cant say these UAP are aliens, but they don't know what they are. Some can be explained as known objects being misinterpreted but there's a lot they simply can't explain

https://news.sky.com/story/nasa-ufo-report-live-scientists-to-release-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-findings-12960933

 
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Why can’t people ever get a good photo on Loch Ness, despite camera technology.

https://youtube.com/shorts/0LwFrKUeChY?si=FjqSpT-uiSeuz8Z5

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 5:23 pm
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Last sighted 33 minutes ago – he’s rubbish at keeping a low profile

that means he’s about to eat you!

 
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this reminds of a cartoon my son was watching, 3 woodland creatures found a sasquatch and befriended him (he was a he in the cartoon). when he discovered they called him bigfoot he got really upset.

Well there was also the documentary Harry and the Hendersons (1987).

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 5:50 pm
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It's surely bunkum. These stories do the rounds all the time.

Where it is a problem however is the US. I've visited the rescue centre run by that Baskin & Robbins woman, they pull animals out of people's back yards where someone has gone "I know, let's get a tiger!" with hilariously predictable consequences.

Joking aside for a moment, my username in part comes from a love of big cats. Some of the stories that came out of that place were soul-wrenching. People can be such assholes. You breed the wrong colour, it's a waste byproduct. WTAF? Congenital birth defects are commonplace, I'd cheerfully set fire to Seigfried and put him out with Roy if he wasn't already dead.

#TeamMontecore

 
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As for 'Big Cat' sightings, a few years ago we used to hear of them occasionally in our end of the county of Angus.  Then one day a neighbour mentioned having seen our then cat-beast, out and about a mile or so away across the fields.  Fin was plain dark grey, exactly 40"/102cm long from nose to tail and then weighed a bit over 9.5kg. He could reach over halfway back across the kitchen work tops, if you can picture what size that might mean.

Seen stalking about field margins at dusk or momentarily lit by car headlights down at the road, it would be easy to think you'd glimpsed a big cat.

As for Nessie, I saw her around 1970 when I was a youngster, growing up in Fort Augustus. No camera though..

 
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As for Nessie, I saw her around 1970 when I was a youngster, growing up in Fort Augustus. No camera though..

🤔 OK, I'm intrigued. Would you mind describing what you saw?

 
Posted : 14/09/2023 7:07 pm
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You might have thought that the Nessie thing has been done to death, but there's still time and money being spent in hunting - Hundreds join huge search for Loch Ness Monster - BBC News

It's nothing to do with cryptids or dodgy photos but the Kennedy assassination and associated conspiracies are in the News again. This seems to be being taken at face value by many - Ex-Secret Service agent reveals new JFK assassination detail - BBC News

 
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I saw a big cat on Farley Mount in Winchester. Myself and 2 friends. Late one night we were there and heard something, turned and shone a massive MagLite in the direction and it lit up a huge pair of green eyes which then ran at us. Turned into a big black cat shape, deffo not a dog/deer or anything else. It came to within 20 feet of us. We scrambled into the car and when we got in and looked out it had gone.

 
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See also big cat sightings. Always photographed with a potato, or so it seems.

Few years back someone on here posted a photo (taken on a potatogramatic camera) of their "big cat" photo.

Even with the potato filter it was clearly a fat Tabby sat in a tree.

And where is the actual "shit" which would have conclusively proved the animals presence long before everyone was bimbling around with high quality photo and video recording devices.

 
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@highlandman

Fin was plain dark grey, exactly 40″/102cm long from nose to tail and then weighed a bit over 9.5kg

Was you car just a regular moggy, but massive? Or some specialty cat breed?

I've never seen a cat half that size!

 
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In theory, a 'normal' cat, born of the rescue mum we already had at the time. Weaned on venison but otherwise nothing special. 4 ounces in weight at birth, visibly larger than the three siblings who were all about the same and 3 ounces.  He was a strange looking cat, flat head, with ears sticking out sideways, back legs a lot longer than front and barred tail. Some small %age wildcat from up the glens...

 
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You’ll be telling us next you’ve seen wallabies jumping about Loch Lomond…

 
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This Kennedy thing...having read the BBC news article on it, I'm still not sure what value it gives - unless the bullet has been found and can be checked against the rifle that was used to shoot him? If so, then this is potential news...if the bullet doesn't match the rifle then we have a story, otherwise, it just seems to be a bit more info to add to the story.

 
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You are all wrong Nessie is alive and well I even have a photograph.P6110113

 
Posted : 15/09/2023 7:24 pm