[Closed] Alex Salmond to host a chat show on Russia Today

We should fix the internal issues then, not look for external scapegoats.

Russia wants to destabilise the west, break up the EU, emasculate NATO, and have America turn inwards and take less interest in the world outside its own borders.

And what do the west want to do to Russia?

Become a democracy?

And what do the west want to do to Russia?

Trade with it.

Putin is horrible - go and read 'Winter Is Coming' by Garry Kasparov if you want the full argument (but the short answer is completely sham elections and supressed political dissent, corruption and humanitarian atrocities like Beslan)

Russia today is Putin's mouthpiece - Salmond should not be going anywhere near it, there is no justification for any involvement, If I were PM I'd be getting MI6 to go and have a chat with Salmond and tell him to can the idea

Anyway on Salmond it’s very bizarre he’ll take Russian state money. As I have said before if they where helping to fund say an iS campaign there’d be uproar.

What if they were helping fund the brexit campaign?

Salmond is a desperate z-list celebrity now, clinging onto any "fame" that somehow comes his way.

He got took in by the biggest ****wit in the world, that says everything about him.

edhornby - Member
If I were PM I'd be getting MI6 to go and have a chat with Salmond and tell him to can the idea

Are you some kind of fascist?

g5604 - Member

Salmond is a desperate z-list celebrity now, clinging onto any "fame" that somehow comes his way.

He got took in by the biggest **** in the world, that says everything about him.

Indeed he did. BUt unlike other politicians taken in by Trump ( Johnson, May etc) he has admitted he was wrong. A rare and unusual thing in a politician.

I don't like Salmond much but he has far more integrity than most politicians

The aims of AS, RT and Putin align

Namely an independent Scotland, no nuclear subs in Scotland the neutering of the British military infrastructure, and political chaos in the rUK and Europe

The search for dubious international support by Scots Nationalism is part of its history

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is that your audition to join the RT editorial board?

big_n_daft - Member

is that your audition to join the RT editorial board?

Fox News are supposed to pay better 😉

(Fox/RT bookers Email in profile, if it's good for AS then it must be OK 😉 )

For all those trying to say its OK to work for RT, because its just the same as everyone else. Even the SNP have thrown Alex under the bus.
They mention things like Russias persecution on the grounds of race and sexuality, attacks on journalists and concerns about the integrity of the democratic process.

If those things matter to the SNP more than they do to those defending RT on here, then your moral compass might need calibration.

I suppose now that the white smoke has risen and the party line has been decided some SNP MSP/MPs might comment as well :O)

Putin is buying legitimacy from Salmond however by becoming the mouthpiece of the Russian government, that 'legitimacy' is now worthless. Salmond and RT are worthy bedfellows.

No bias in this thread, no sirree, none what-so-ever! 😆

Do people think Salmond is the type to sit and read from a Putin script?

If yes, can you tell me which parts pf the Putin agenda he will be promoting?

If no, why the kerfuffle?

Have we done this;

[url= http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/russia-rt-register-foreign-agent_us_5a04eff0e4b01d21c83da01e ]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/russia-rt-register-foreign-agent_us_5a04eff0e4b01d21c83da01e[/url]

[i]The Justice Department had first called for RT America to register as a foreign agent in September. Such a registration would require any reporting to be labeled as being financed or influenced by the Russian government, among other restrictions.

Russian news media and social media actors have come under scrutiny after U.S. intelligence agencies concluded in January that Russia sought to interfere with the U.S. presidential election to help Donald Trump win.

In its January report, U.S. intelligence called RT “the Kremlin’s principal international propaganda outlet,” saying it was part of “Russia’s state-run propaganda machine,” which had “contributed to the influence campaign by serving as a platform for Kremlin messaging.”[/i]

Just giving your name to the channel implies you approve the message, gives it legitimacy.

Sturgeon has said she was not consulted but if she had been she would have advised against taking Putin’s money

which parts pf the Putin agenda he will be promoting?

WGAF about Alex Salmond these days anyway? Spent force, spent idea, time for him to make a few dirty $s for his old age. If it keeps him off mainstream TV it's a real bonus.

teamhurtmore - Member
WGAF about Alex Salmond these days anyway? Spent force, spent idea, time for him to make a few dirty $s for his old age. If it keeps him off mainstream TV it's a real bonus.

Jamba obviously. i agree it's irrevelant and all we're talking about here is his semi retirement.

Only semi? How disappointing

Junkyard - lazarus
which parts pf the Putin agenda he will be promoting?
the part where Putin likes to pretend that RT is a proper news Channel rather than his mouthpiece/propaganda?

That's not even remotely like an answer to the question I asked.

Are you just an anti Russian mouthpiece? Sounding awful like it considering you've never even watched RT.

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we were in danger of discussing like grown up there ...just for a moment.

Might do when you actually form an opinion of your own.

Can you answer the question...

Do you, junkyard, think Salmond is the type to sit and read from a Putin script?

[i]Do you, junkyard, think Salmond is the type to sit and read from a Putin script? [/i]

the point people are making is whether he;d do it is irrelevant, by being on there he gives all the other messages pumped out by other presenters increased legitimacy "We trust Salmond so we trust what other people on the channel are saying".

It really doesn't matter what he says it's his presence that's the concern.

Youse are mental. 😆 Your basis for that seems to be that American stance on making them a register as foriegn agent.

Do the the American have no agenda either?

Agree that by making a programme for RT, Salmond is either giving RT the appearance of legitimacy that (in my opinion) they don't deserve, and/or reducing his own reputation. No idea if that means we should avoid watching it though… when he speaks about a episode dedicated to the pardoning of homosexuals for breaking the unfair and illiberal laws of the past, it might be interesting to see what he can get away with on RT.

Do you, junkyard, think Salmond is the type to sit and read from a Putin script?

Aye, but it won't be cheap.

It's on next thursday, I look forward to see youse point out the putin agenda parts! 😆

wwaswas

Plenty of UK politicians have been on russia today

Over the last year or two, 50 Labour MPs - including the current Labour Party leader - 37 Conservative MPs and 17 SNP MPs have appeared on RT programmes.

SNP Baaad.

rene59 - Member
Over the last year or two, 50 Labour MPs - including the current Labour Party leader - 37 Conservative MPs and 17 SNP MPs have appeared on RT programmes.

They should all be shot as spies! 😆

It looks like it's Salmond's own production company making this. I wonder if the BBC and other UK MSM outlets knocked him back first due to their own anti SNP and Scottish independence bias.

[i]wwaswas

Plenty of UK politicians have been on russia today [/i]

as a paid presenter with their own shows?

I'd argue that any appearance on there is bad but hosting a show is more than just an appearance

He has sold his show to RT, RT are not paying him to make their show. There is a difference.

Its illadvised IMO but no worse than appearing on it really I don't think

Could he take the bloke from WoS with him then everyone would be a winner

He has sold his show to RT, RT are not paying him to make their show. There is a difference.

Not to the viewers.

Leku - Member

Not to the viewers.

I wish you were on the BBC thm

I'm rather enjoying the idea that Alex is smirking at all the bedwetters whinging about this.

I believe Al Jazeera has already signed him up for a monthly special.

It's not like he is hosting a state visit of Saudi Arabia or even Russia for that matter. OK to welcome them here and roll out the red carpet treatment at great cost to the tax payer, but we can't go on their telly as that sends out the wrong signals? 🙄

Not to the viewers.

Does that matter?

If he's doing his own show and just selling it to a channel, there's a big difference between that and just doing what a channel tells him to do.

Seems like a smart move, by him, to me. He gets more exposure and gets paid for it whist still saying what he believes.

I quite like the bloke. Don't agree with what he says all the time, but he adds something positive to UK politics.

, but he adds something positive to UK politics.

😯 he almost scewed Scotland to satisfy his own vanity with lies that made Brexshiteers look honest 😯

Aye, I keep forgeting the independence movement was all down to one person. We'll never know how it would have turned out if Yes won. Your guess is just as good/shite as anybodies.

Leku - Member
Not to the viewers.

So you counting yourself as an avid RT viewer then? Is it one of your main news sources?

I really don't understand this comment. I don't watch RT as Im aware its a mouth piece for Putin. I'm sure their football coverage is great. I was pointing out that Rene's comment didn't make much sense,

I don't watch RT

This is becoming a theme...

I think it's obvious why you don't understand the comment, obviously no-one has told you what to think yet. Don't worry i'm sure someone will be along soon to sort ye out. 😆

I was pointing out that Rene's comment didn't make much sense,

It's not an old series of Magnum PI.

But end result is the same. If he starts doing pieces on gay rights, dodgy Russian money laundering, then fair play.

If not he is just legitimising RT / Putin. Russia loves bit of soft power..

[url= https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/alex-salmond-has-become-russias-useful-idiot/ ]https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/alex-salmond-has-become-russias-useful-idiot/[/url]

jambalaya - Member
BBC must be one of the most balanced anywhere in the world....

Aye, right.

Where's it's balanced coverage on Catalonia? It's pure propaganda. A sewage outlet of UK Establishment distortion and lies direct into your home, and even worse you are compelled to pay for it whether you want it or not.

Does some good nature documentaries though.

It looks like it's Salmond's own production company making this. I wonder if the BBC and other UK MSM outlets knocked him back first due to [s]their own anti SNP and Scottish independence bias[/s] [b]it being expensive, partial and not very good[/b].

FIFY

If he starts doing pieces on gay rights

He was trailing it as Scottish Parliament great Westminster retarded homophobes on Newsnight. I doubt we will get a detailed expose of gay rights in Russia and it's satellite states

you are compelled to pay for it whether you want it or not.

You can still get news without a TV licence you know

Tom Walker's Jonathan Pie started out on RT. He had other offers but he turned them down because RT were the only ones who would offer him total artistic control.

I doubt Salmond would get the same freedom if he did his show on the BBC or any other western owned TV channel.

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/alex-salmond-has-become-russias-useful-idiot/

Alex Massie: the very embodiment of unbiased commentary in Scotland.

I'm confused. All these folk that have no time for Alex Salmond, accuse him of being an "idiot" or a liar or a self-publicist now complaining he's giving some respectability to RT? So much froth.....

I doubt we will get a detailed expose of gay rights in Russia and it's satellite states

Does it take you effort to miss the point so spectacularly or is this just what you do without effort ?
Genuine question BTW

I doubt Salmond would get the same freedom if he did his show on the BBC or any other western owned TV channel.

Does it take you effort to miss the point so spectacularly or is this just what you do without effort ?
Genuine question BTW

That's a genuine question? If I'd written something like that it wouldn't be a genuine question. It would be a smug attempt at point scoring.

Anyway, I'm having some trouble answering your genuine question. I went all the way back through the thread to see you making this point you're going on about and do you know what, all I could find were a bunch of other smug self-satisfied comments.

I probably misread all these genuine questions so maybe you could try re-phrasing them?

well given you accused someone of "being on their period like your GF " when they challenged you i am delighted to find you dont think much of me.

Its the best compliment you could have paid me

Ps you do know question is the singular dont you? If you had you could have saved yourself some reading time by simply being better at it 😉

to rene - it is clearly a bit rude but it seems to me you seem to side step many issues and reply with something sort of related but not quite addressing the point made. I assumed it was deliberate hence the genuine q bit - yes its a bit rude and i should have phrased it considerably better than that
Sorry

Junkyard you watched Rt yet, or you still spouting second hand info.

We both hold the same views we did yesterday and only one of us wants to repeat the debate.

to rene - it is clearly a bit rude but it seems to me you seem to side step many issues and reply with something sort of related but not quite addressing the point made. I assumed it was deliberate hence the genuine q bit - yes its a bit rude and i should have phrased it considerably better than that
Sorry

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I will leave it
Perhaps its just we are more similar than we realise but sorry nonetheless

I think i do dramatic hypoerbole too often and my sarcasm is often misread on here

nationalists claiming equivalence between the propaganda mouthpiece of a state who murders journalists and the BBC really is a new low

I think i do dramatic hypoerbole

I think you'll find you're just away in your own wee world.

A true legend in your own mind.

williamnot - Member
nationalists claiming equivalence between the propaganda mouthpiece of a state who murders journalists and the BBC really is a new low

british nationalist in inability to see British bias shocker.

perhaps I spoke too soon when it comes to new lows

 

Where can I watch RT, do I need to go on the Dark Web? I imagine something so awful like this must be difficult to get hold of legally?

Wait, what? It's on Freeview? The same Freeview that is part owned and run by our beloved BBC?

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williamnot - Member
british nationalist in inability to see British bias shocker.

perhaps I spoke too soon when it comes to new lows

Ah the sweet irony of being told to open my eyes by someone who only sees the world through a nationalist lens

Not sure Seosamh fits that description,still good advice though.

All of this kerfuful about some Scotch fisherman doing a show on Russian telly. Honestly. Well known Irish actor Francis (Viper) Higgins does a show on RT and you'll never see any Russian propaganda or fake news on his videos.

big_n_daft - Member
'you are compelled to pay for it whether you want it or not.'
You can still get news without a TV licence you know

But even though I do not want to watch the BBC, if I want to watch other channels, I have to pay the BBC tax.

only if you atch it live

I dont pay for a licence but I dont watch tv

I still support the funding model

Alex Salmond must surely be Satan himself to court such controversy.
Tory election fraud, naughty.
Westminster sex scandal, last weeks news.
Priti Patel, freelance minister.
Boris, apparently unsackable.
PM at party for tax dodging Daily Mail.
Alex on RT. Build the gallows.
Get a grip peeps.

scoob67 - Member

Alex Salmond must surely be Satan himself to court such controversy.
Tory election fraud, naughty.
Westminster sex scandal, last weeks news.
Priti Patel, freelance minister.
Boris, apparently unsackable.
PM at party for tax dodging Daily Mail.
Alex on RT. Build the gallows.
Get a grip peeps.

I charge thee with whataboutery!

I still support[s] the funding model[/s] [b]other people paying for content and services I use[/b]

FIFY 😉