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Looking for some advice please on the testing requirements to get abroad, leaving tomorrow morning and returning late Wednesday.
No, its not posisble to do this meeting on Zoom, been building up to this for 18months or so, which is the only reason I'm still going.
If I turn up to the airport tomorrow to get a test there, do I actually have to have a result before getting on the plane? Earliest test is 7.00am, flight leaves 10.40! A three hour result option is available.
Am I right that, assuming -ve, this test will also serve as my 'getting back in test'?
I will then have to pre-book a 2 day PCR as well before I leave.
Is my understanding correct? Any help appreaciated.
Depends where you are going, I am in Spain no test required to enter Spain from uk. I fly to uk next week so booked a day 2 test on arrival at Manchester airport, 55 quid, isolate till result next day.
I also have to do pre departure test 48hrs before flight, lateral flow, needs a certificate so 30 euros.
A bit like buying currency - bad idea to try and do it at an airport.
Just use your vaccine QR code, that's all you need. EDIT - unless the country your visiting also requires a locator form also.
Re-entry in the UK is more complicated, you have to have a negative lft before travel and a pre-booked PCR.
I actually have to have a result before getting on the plane?
You do. Only the test provider can advise if their test results will be ready in time for your flight. We ended up using Project Screen, where we had to do an LFT witnessed by a doctor over a video link before a US flight.
And coming back, I assume as long as you meet the within 48 hours rule, this test result can be used for your return.
We've spent more on testing than our flights cost I think.
EDIT - I'm assuming the country you're flying to requires a neg test.
I thought pre-departure (from the UK) negative tests were only required for anti vaxxers?
Sorry - more complicated than I thought.
Flying Manc to Poland via Amsterdam. Amsterdam is just vacc cert - that's all fine.
Poland the same.
However, I was under the impression that it was the UK that has decreed that we all need to be PCR tested before we fly out anywhere? Now there are advantages to knowing the result before boarding but wondered if it were compulsory to have negative result before boarding plane? I think it is true that this test (either 3 hour or 48 hour) will suffice as the entry test back into the UK.
I also need to pre-book the day 2 test.
I thought pre-departure (from the UK) negative tests were only required for anti vaxxers?
It depends on what the country you are flying to requires. The US, for example, needs a negative test on the day of departure now. Previously it was within 3 days of departure. Plus you have to be vaccinated.
However, I was under the impression that it was the UK that has decreed that we all need to be PCR tested before we fly out anywhere?
Don't think so. The new rule is for anybody flying into the UK. It can be LFT or PCR within 2 days of your flight into the UK.
Just had this email...
'Effective for flights departing on December 6th and beyond, the United Kingdom will change its testing requirements for all travelers ages 12 and above entering the U.K. All travelers arriving into the U.K., regardless of citizenship or vaccination status, must provide proof of a negative COVID-19 PCR or antigen test taken within 2 days of departure of their final flight to the U.K. Additionally, all vaccinated passengers must pre-book a post-arrival test no more than 2 days after arrival and self-isolate until they receive a negative result. Unvaccinated must continue to pre-book PCR tests for day 2 and 8 post-arrival and self-isolate for 10 days.'
Straight from the govt website. *All* travellers vaxxed or not and travelling from any country need a PCR or LFT test 48 hours before returning to the UK.
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From 4am on Tuesday 7 December anyone aged 12 and over must show a negative PCR or lateral flow test result before travelling to England from abroad. You must take the test in the 2 days before you travel to England.
You must also take a PCR test within 2 days of arriving and self-isolate until you get a negative test result, even if you’re fully vaccinated. Check what you need to do to travel to England from another country.
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PCR or LFT (I hope!)...
That's not correct, an official LFT (as in signed and stamped by a pharmacy) 48hrs before return is also suitable:
From 4am, Tuesday 7 December all people aged 12 years and over must take a PCR or LFD COVID-19 test before they travel to England from abroad.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-to-england-from-another-country-during-coronavirus-covid-19
The website is almost purposfully confusing though.
What's an "LFD" is that the same as LFT?
Straight from the govt website. *All* travellers vaxxed or not and travelling from any country need a PCR test 48 hours before returning to the UK.
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From 4am on Tuesday 7 December anyone aged 12 and over must show a negative PCR or lateral flow test result before travelling to England from abroad. You must take the test in the 2 days before you travel to England.
Sorry - can't do quotes! Isn't the above contradictory? First sentence states PCR. Next sentence says PCR OR LFT?
LFD= lateral flow device
LFT= liver function test
HTH!
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or to copy/paste directly (my bold) from .gov:
From 4am, Tuesday 7 December all people aged 12 years and over must take a PCR or LFD COVID-19 test before they travel to England from abroad.
SO what the chuff is LFD?
OK thanks all.
I can get the LFT (cheaper test) on the way out to save cash.
Pre-book 2 day PCR for return.
Amsterdam is just vacc cert
Are you sure? Might be different for transit passengers, but as well as the Vax cert NL requires a negative PCR not more than 48 hours before departure or negative LFT not more than 24hours before departure.
They now accept the QR code from the NHS app for the vaccination evidence.
I'm just in transit in Schipol
What onewheelgood says, because you are transiting with Schengen and the UK is'very high risk' I would assume the airline will want to result of the LFT before you check in. And you need to complete the health questionnaire and you might as well do the quarantine declaration (I think you are exempt because you are in transit)...
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/netherlands/entry-requirements
I would take a few printed copies of your vaccination cert too, just in case.
LFD = Lateral Flow Device.
(A lateral flow test uses a lateral flow device, so the two are interchangeable initialisms, although using the two within the same webpage without defining them is unnecessarily confusing)
LFD = Lateral Flow Device.
(A lateral flow test uses a lateral flow device, so the two are interchangeable initialisms, although using the two within the same webpage without defining them is unnecessarily confusing)
Thanks, I suspected as much, but everyone was using the acronym LFT, now it's LFD... I'm not sure why I'm supprised, this is UK gov, afterall.
although using the two within the same webpage without defining them is unnecessarily confusing
The contract for all gov web pages went to an semi-literate mate of Matt Hancock...
He only got the job as Matt Hancock was so impressed by his IQ of 90. 90% he said, you must be really clever.
This is giving me palpitations right now because everything is so confusing and keeps changing - and I’ve had covid within 90 days to add to the mix (not supposed to do any pcr tests). Anyway, a friend saved me having to try to find a test centre with much complications by telling me about this test you can take in your suitcase for the return Lat Flow, so for anyone it might help, check out Qured if you’re in a bank holiday/remote location type testing fankle, might solve some issues. Probably a bit late for the OP. Fwiw, the Randox test centre at Manchester airport seemed pretty slick, I’ll go with them for the return PCR.
Which lateral flow test do you need to get back into the UK? We're in the same position (also live in Spain) and Madrid airport has a testing centre that does a rapid antibody or a rapid antigen test. Not sure which one we need.
Can't be doing with the hassle of going down the PCR test route again, especially now they've cut the window from 72 hours to 48.
I'm getting a lateral flow test at the hotel the day before flying back to the UK. 30€ with a cert.
I'll then fill in the passenger locator form, fly home the next day and take the delivered PCR test and drop the test at the local TUI store for it to be collected and a result delivered hopefully on the Monday 🤔.
I'm hoping it'll only be a day before I get the result so only one unpaid day off work.
I also expect the result to be negative if the lateral flow test prior is negative and gets me back home 🤔.
The contract for all gov web pages went to an semi-literate mate of Matt Hancock…
He only got the job as Matt Hancock was so impressed by his IQ of 90. 90% he said, you must be really clever.
GDS content designers are only slightly less sanctimonious than GDS user researchers.
Anyway, a friend saved me having to try to find a test centre with much complications by telling me about this test you can take in your suitcase for the return Lat Flow, so for anyone it might help, check out Qured if you’re in a bank holiday/remote location type testing fankle, might solve some issues.
They changed the rules when we were away, but spotted these cheaper LFTs you put in your luggage to take before you return. So are they accepting self-administered ones then? Just not allowed to use the NHS ones?
so only one unpaid day off work
You said it was a meeting so I assumed it was a work trip. If so, essential, legally necessary isolation should be paid as part of the trip. It's effectively travelling time.
They changed the rules when we were away, but spotted these cheaper LFTs you put in your luggage to take before you return. So are they accepting self-administered ones then? Just not allowed to use the NHS ones?
I landed in the UK this morning with a cronomics lateral flow test (taken myself then image uploaded to their website). I did the same when I landed in Sept from Canada, both were accepted without issue.
The UK doesn't actually check you have a test on departure, but your airline will. If its too late now, you might be able to get a lateral flow test at the airport in poland. if you stay air-side in amsterdam you shouldn't need anything there.
Now there are advantages to knowing the result before boarding but wondered if it were compulsory to have negative result before boarding plane? I think it is true that this test (either 3 hour or 48 hour) will suffice as the entry test back into the UK.
mmm... but given 1/3 positive cases have no symptoms do you ant to land in Poland to the great bit of news that you are positive (presumably missing the meeting you planned to go for) and have to find somewhere to isolate for 10/14 days until you can fly back?
My experience of flying to and from the Netherlands was that ALL the checks are pre flight and only passports are checked on landing so you wouldn't even be able to check in without the correct paperwork/tests. I flew in/out from Stansted and used the Randox testing centre, it was very quick and easy and the 24hr LFT came back in less than an hour. I just arrived at the airport an hour earlier (3 hours before flight) and waited outside the terminal for the email confirmation of the negative result before check in.
Devash it's the stamped certificate lateral flow test you need, so a doctor, hence the 30 euros not the fiver from a pharmacy. Alicante airport do them 29e but it's cutting it a bit fine.
Airline checks pre boarding, landing at Manchester nothing at all. Thanks stwhannah for Manchester airport pcr test approval, I have a train to catch so timings a bit tight. Was it the randox one or collinson.