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Posted by: multi21

How are you defining "generative AI" though?  ChatGPT, Grok etc can all make new content.

 

They make content by mashing up what bits of old content they deem most likely to be "useful" when put together, depending on the prompt. It's not strictly new, more a collage of old. If you only ever fed it Charles Dickens, you wouldn't get Irvine Welsh.

That's exactly what generative AI is - it means that the AI can make new content based on patterns learned from the training data.

 

 

 
Posted : 30/07/2025 10:05 am
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just watched that video Somafunk posted on the first page. The part about the chatbot that starts about 22 minutes in is pretty jaw dropping. 🤔 Forget about worrying about global warming or world war three, I am off to look up Sarah Conner in the phone book!

 
Posted : 30/07/2025 11:22 am
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Prediction: AI will be blamed for problems actually caused by HS (Human stupidity).

Older STWers will remember the prevalent excuse 'computer error' which was usually a cop out for human failure.

Are these still labelled as ID-ten-T errors?

It's still a case of garbage in, garbage out. If the AI is trained on an LLM full of drivel, then it will spout drivel.

 
Posted : 30/07/2025 2:02 pm
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Posted by: epicyclo

It's still a case of garbage in, garbage out. If the AI is trained on an LLM full of drivel, then it will spout drivel.

The biggest problem is going to be the feedback loop. Half the pages on the web were written by AI and these are being fed into the next generation of AI as training data.

It's so hard to tell what was written by an AI and what wasn't that errors are going to pervade the training data and compromise all of the output.

 
Posted : 30/07/2025 2:26 pm
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This site was served up to me quite prominently in a search yesterday.  I am certain it is entirely AI generated, from the text to the images to the social icons that don't actually link anywhere. So it cannot be trusted. It's American in tone but based out of Czechia and presumably just trying to gain ad revenue.  But it's ostensibly a health site. This shit is going to overwhelm the internet, really quite soon IMO 

https://www.theonlineallergist.com/

 
Posted : 31/07/2025 8:49 pm
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I thought I would check if I could fake my own artwork in AI to save me time thinking and being creative.

I wrote an AI app that let you upload an image of a painting and also a photograph of something different. It analysed the painting and applied the same style too the photograph to create a new picture.

The easiest way to test this AI App is to load a picture of something, a photo of the same thing and see if what it generates looks the same. Even after a little tuning, the results were not encouraging.
 
Look at the photo and then the two other images. See if you can guess which was painted and which was AI generated,

https://photos.app.goo.gl/wXdTpbhLR3AFzbAw9

 

 

If you are wondering why my painting shows his sword pointing up and the statue has the sword pointing down the come to the exhibition in Winchester September 19th - 26th at The Nutshell where you will read

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Alfred the Great
 
This portrays him on the night before the battle of Edington with his sword raised high. There is a similar statue of Alfred in Winchester* but with his sword inverted but held high like a cross. This was representing his victory over the Viking leader Grunthum who he made convert to Christianity (hence the cross reference).
 
*I did consider signing upside down on the plinth at the base of the painting as the plinth stone under the statue in Winchester is actually upside down but was too difficult for them to put the right way up, so it has stayed upside down ever since.

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Posted : 12/08/2025 8:09 am
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Think your AI App might be the problem. Done with ChatGPT

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 11:13 am
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We are in the edge of enshittification of chatbots. The are now consuming ai generated content which is inherently bollocks.

 

The only models that are useful are taking llm base models and performing refinement training in a locked environment on a companies own data.  That way you have a level of control and monitoring of output. 

Specialised models should be good though

 
Posted : 12/08/2025 5:02 pm
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Posted by: scratch

Its the rapidness of the advance I think is the most of my issue, there seems to be a lot of high level people asking for legislation, laws, controls being put in place but its coming at such a slow pace compared to the advances of the technology

I'm surprised nobody else seemingly picked up on the drive for legislation, but my gut feeling is that it's being backed by the existing big players for the protectionism that could bring to their marketplace. If there's rules that say your new whizz-bang AI tool needs to pass incredibly complicated and expensive certification, that plays into the hands of those big players and makes it difficult for small startups to break into the market, no matter how good their idea is. Small startups will just have to sell their soul to a major player to even cover the cost of basic certification, and the big guns get bigger off the back of it. And round and round it goes...

As for my own actual use of AI tools; I'm starting to have more faith in them for software development where the answers I seek are binary. It either works or it doesn't, and generally that's then independently verifiable. I certainly wouldn't trust the current regurgitation AI tools to come up with truly "new" ideas, designs or concepts, nor would I ask it to write its own tests to verify its own output! 

 

 

 
Posted : 13/08/2025 10:54 pm
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Posted by: grahamt1980

We are in the edge of enshittification of chatbots. The are now consuming ai generated content which is inherently bollocks.

I’ve noticed a helluva amount of ai bots posting in the comments of YouTube videos, all with a similar response such  as “your content is an inspiration to me, I admire your professionalism” usually with a picture of a woman’s arse or tits etc. 

What do they get out of such a thing?

 

Noticed similar on twitter comments and more so in political comments/replies along with a huge amount in the comments under Gaza tweets, if you check out the posters behind such tweets they all appear to have accounts that are created years previously but they are very obviously bots as they all post variations on the same comment.

 

The Enshitification is well under way. 

 

 
Posted : 13/08/2025 11:22 pm
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my gut feeling is that it's being backed by the existing big players for the protectionism that could bring to their marketplace

So far, it's the opposite. It's the big players successfully persuading USA & UK governments to relax not tighten the regulations they operate under.

 
Posted : 14/08/2025 9:59 am
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Barrister found to have used AI to prepare for hearing after citing ‘fictitious’ cases | Artificial intelligence (AI) | The Guardian https://share.google/qzggkfn6kKxgza5Rp

A barrister FFS. I wonder if the gruinard's reporting fully addresses the judge's sarcasm when dealing with said lawyer.

 
Posted : 17/10/2025 6:45 am
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Unsurprising sadly,  PICNIC needs changing to 'Problem in chair,  and in computer'.

AI outside of specialist areas is simply a bit shit and is mainly useful in non critical areas. As soon as its use becomes critical the system needs to be extremely effective (validated) and the users have to be AI literate enough to know what to check.  Most of the time we have neither so end up with the toss that comes out

 
Posted : 17/10/2025 7:07 am
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Deloitte Australia got caught out using it for a report where it invented various citations and even a quote from a legal judgement.

If only Deloitte had checked with Deloitte who provide training and support in how to use AI responsibly.

 

 

 
Posted : 17/10/2025 4:48 pm
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gartner_hype_cycle

I think we're somewhere past the peak of inflated expectations.heading towards the trough.

I agree with many comments above and I personally don't believe a lot of what all the AI pushers are spouting. Until we have AGI (which we don't, and may never do) I really can't see how any of the current (or obviously in reach) AI tools are going to take jobs that are built on personal, interactions, negotiation or complex analysis or creative thought.

The most interesting one is maybe software development. Yes I can get an AI to churn out code to meet a known problem with perfect syntax etc...maybe you could replace some junior devs....but that's not what a *really good* *lead developer* is valuable for anyway - which is really to help balance what the business wants with what's rational and achievable, and then to make the team that work for them make it a reality. How the hell is an AI with current or next few interations going to achieve that? As above, shit ideas / shit requirements in, shit code out (i.e. it might run, but does not have any actual business value)

I do however think that some mostly repetitive jobs will die, and some will be made a lot easier or more productive using AI as a productivity tool.

Also, it's going to flood the internet with even more shit and the LLMs will eat all that shit up and it'll be dumped back out exponentially. I'm so poetic eh?

 
Posted : 17/10/2025 11:37 pm
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Also. What's the actual end game here?

If AI takes all the jobs

Then nobody has any money to pay for anything to pay for the AI

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Is the game to have AIs doing stuff for other AIs?

That wouldn't make any sense other than competing for the race to the bottom while it all plays out.

 

 
Posted : 17/10/2025 11:44 pm
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Posted by: el_boufador

What's the actual end game here?

We all become slaves to the machine.  We work to keep the machine healthy or alive.  Our jobs will be to feed the machine with energy source, directly or indirectly.   The machine will decide our fate i.e. if you are a reject, the machine will lock you out from the "system" and you will have no access to everything or every services (everything in future will require digital verification).  You will then live your life as a by product of the society and counting the day to your own demise, while living on food donation (you can't get money coz they are digitised).  Yes, there will be robotic police (not like Terminator but very early version) to ensure the population fall in line.

 
Posted : 18/10/2025 12:25 am
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Rick Beato fried chat gpt’s brain

 

 
Posted : 18/10/2025 12:44 am
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Posted by: dudeofdoom

I hate it as in a majority of cases it’s going to be used to flood social media,films, music and literature and news with low quality material.

That’s already happening. Spotify is full of AI Slop - short tracks long enough to trigger the payment algorithms, because most people using such streaming platforms only listen for a limited amount of time before skipping to the next nearly identical track, the sort of producer created dreck that drives me nuts on commercial radio stations, with cookie-cutter backing tracks, some random bloke mumbling autotuned ‘lyrics’ behind some anonymous female ‘singing’ equally random lyrics over the top. 
It’s for this reason that the Guinness Book Of Hit Singles ceased to exist several years ago, because there was no point in publishing it any longer - most ‘hit’ singles are barely a hit for more than a week.

There’s already been a band that was making a lot of sales on Spotify, and possibly other platforms, a sort of alt-Country type of band, and it turns out the band doesn’t exist, it’s entirely AI created, but a lot of people got really excited about this band.

AI will never replace actual artists who can turn up at a venue, play music, sign merchandise and actually engage with their fans, but those who only want some noise in the background will never notice the difference between current chart slop and AI chart slop - there isn’t any.

 

 
Posted : 18/10/2025 12:54 am
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You know it's bad when south park do an episode about it.

 
Posted : 18/10/2025 12:57 am
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Posted by: somafunk

Rick Beato fried chat gpt’s brain

His celebration is premature. 

 
Posted : 18/10/2025 1:01 am
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Posted by: dudeofdoom

IMHO This will lead to big job loses until the public disengage with the slop and then there will be a move to people being happy to pay a premium for quality human material

With reference to my response to the first part of your comment, isn’t this already happening? People are paying a significant premium to see live music and other forms of entertainment.

 
Posted : 18/10/2025 1:03 am
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I’ve seen a couple of references to Terminator, just to point out that Skynet went live in the 1980’s, during Maggie’s time as Prime Minister, and their main operation is in Corsham, Wiltshire. There’s a SkyNet Drive leading to it, and it’s part of a large MOD campus. It’s a satellite system used by Army Intelligence. 
Thought you ought to know. 😏

 
Posted : 18/10/2025 1:12 am
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Posted by: scratch

due to thinking (naively) about how I can be a bit more useful at work but flipping 'eck, after watching a few interviews with Altman, Schmidt

Maybe spend more time working, less time watching videos?

 
Posted : 18/10/2025 7:20 am
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We all become slaves to the machine.  We work to keep the machine healthy or alive.  Our jobs will be to feed the machine with energy source, directly or indirectly.   The machine will decide our fate i.e. if you are a reject, the machine will lock you out from the "system" and you will have no access to everything or every services (everything in future will require digital verification).  You will then live your life as a by product of the society and counting the day to your own demise, while living on food donation (you can't get money coz they are digitised).  Yes, there will be robotic police (not like Terminator but very early version) to ensure the population fall in line.

You need some better AI to write your posts chewkw, this just looks like more outpourings of your pound shop philosophy text generator 😂

 
 
Posted : 18/10/2025 11:23 am
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I watched this 100% clickbait:

Found it entertaining enough to get to the end but had to take everything that was said with a massive pinch of salt. There's a comment somewhere introducing me to a term summing it up perfectly: Gonzo Journalism.

It mentions 'Alignment' a number of times. That is, AI alignment with human goals. How can AI ever align with human goals when humans themselves don't align with human goals! 

 

 
Posted : 19/10/2025 11:17 am
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Posted by: CountZero

I’ve seen a couple of references to Terminator, just to point out that Skynet went live in the 1980’s, during Maggie’s time as Prime Minister, and their main operation is in Corsham, Wiltshire. There’s a SkyNet Drive leading to it, and it’s part of a large MOD campus. It’s a satellite system used by Army Intelligence. 
Thought you ought to know. 😏

Skynet is the least of our problems. AI will kill us by using all of our water and energy; Arnie didn't see that one coming 🤣 

 

 
Posted : 19/10/2025 11:36 am
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