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Thanks!

[Mod] we're sorry there's some glitches and Tech are doing their best to rectify.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:33 pm
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Agreed. That banner takes up more than a third of the screen on my Chromebook. It's proper in yer face.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:38 pm
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[Mod] we’re sorry there’s some glitches and Tech are doing their best to rectify.

Ta!


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:41 pm
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I assumed hebtroco were now sponsoring the forum are they or is that an ad?


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:42 pm
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Are the two things mutually exclusive? 🙂


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:43 pm
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It links straight to their website. It's an ad.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:46 pm
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I don't mind a banner for a small, reputable business tbh. It's the pop ups and the ones that load an extra page between clicking on a topic and accessing it that I pay to avoid.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:46 pm
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It links straight to their website. It’s an ad........

clicked on it so many time whilst the pages loads up and its slow to do so


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:49 pm
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I just got an enormous mid-thread video try to load itself (and immediately be stuck buffering)


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 7:50 pm
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I've just hidden it like I did with the previous crc banner. I only want to see text or photos that people have posted.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 8:00 pm
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I didn't know you could hide it! How?


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 8:08 pm
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I didn’t know you could hide it! How?

Not allowed to speak about it


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 8:13 pm
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This meeting/thread could have been an email


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 8:14 pm
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At least they are, presumably, paying for an advert now, rather than just using a/their 30 page thread.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 8:20 pm
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How do i stop the constant pop ups on my iPhone? Even when logged in


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 8:52 pm
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Subscribe.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 8:57 pm
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It'll not stop the fgf video pop up that's erm popped up


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 9:09 pm
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I don’t mind a banner for a small, reputable business

Like I said in the tread title...


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 9:18 pm
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It’ll not stop the fgf video pop up that’s erm popped up

It does if you select disable videos in your preferences.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 9:23 pm
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I'm also getting this repeatedly

And I just had to type all these stupid image tags because the buttons have vanished again. This site a garbage fire.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 9:46 pm
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I am really fond of the banner thing at the top loading and making all the threads on my phone jump just as I try to select one and end up on a thread i didn't want. Great.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 9:55 pm
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So we get a good discount for Hebtroco now yes? Thats the benefit of my ad free subscription yes?


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 9:58 pm
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Hmm. I thought I did subscribe. I certainly used to.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 9:59 pm
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“It’ll not stop the fgf video pop up that’s erm popped up

It does if you select disable videos in your preferences.”

Unfortunately disabling vids in preferences does not kill the pop up video. It reduces the number of times it pops up, but annoyingly it does not stop it.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 10:06 pm
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It does if you select disable videos in your preferences.

Not always. Mostly I don't see them. Then sometimes I see them a lot. Then I see them if I refresh a page but not if I have gone straight from a link... all very odd. But I definitely disabled them in my settings.


 
Posted : 13/03/2024 10:07 pm
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As above I've ticked that option yet.....


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 6:05 am
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Yesterday i was getting a pop up window advert for what can only be described as extreme Israeli propaganda. Kinda surprised when it can’t even be mentioned on the forum…


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 7:04 am
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So...is hebcotro an advert of the new forum wponwor?


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 8:17 am
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<Q>So…is hebcotro an advert of the new forum wponwor?</Q>

I don't know but I suddenly have an inexplicable urge to spend a weeks wages on a coat that makes me look like a giant toddler.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 8:23 am
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Unfortunately disabling vids in preferences does not kill the pop up video. It reduces the number of times it pops up, but annoyingly it does not stop it.

Very much this.
Seems to happen if you navigate away via a link in a thread and then return.

Tbh the forum seems to have been running shit for a good few weeks now, what once was a bit of a gag is turning into a major turn off. It’s getting to the stage where knowing it’ll hang up for ages, no access at all, your replies will be lost etc equate to don’t bother, it’s tedious, and that’s with a subscription.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 8:31 am
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Looks like the fancy editor has gone AWOL again too!


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 8:34 am
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Not a premium user but entire forum now unusable on Android phone.

Threads cannot be clicked as video advert blocks page, not sure if it's just me. Ta


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 8:54 am
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I don’t know but I suddenly have an inexplicable urge to spend a weeks wages on a coat

Humble brag.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 8:57 am
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"I don’t know but I suddenly have an inexplicable urge to spend a weeks wages on a coat that makes me look like a giant toddler."

Post on the politics threads for a bit, get the same effect for free! Worked for me, anyway.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 9:03 am
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I don't mind seeing ads but do they burn my data?


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 9:21 am
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And if @iainc thinks the prices are silly then they really must be astronomical 😂

TBH I'm guessing that few in the biking world currently have much marketing spend available and that Mark would prefer to have at least some income. It's still an Ad though.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 9:24 am
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TBH I’m guessing that few in the biking world currently have much marketing spend available and that Mark would prefer to have at least some income. It’s still an Ad though.

Yeah that’s pretty much the answer he gave you the last time.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 10:35 am
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Yeah. I'm replying so Mark doesn't have to.

Don't worry, I'll not be charging for this service.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 11:01 am
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Yesterday i was getting a pop up window advert for what can only be described as extreme Israeli propaganda. Kinda surprised when it can’t even be mentioned on the forum

Iirc STW doesn’t choose what ads pop up, as its done via Google and Google will be looking at search history?


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 11:06 am
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It is the only 'ad' that I see and only seems to be on the main forum page - so no real issues with it. However, I'm clearly thick, so a wee note like 'In partnership with...' or 'Sponsored by...' would help my slow thinking dull processing brain. Not a massive issue from me though (other than the prices, but I'm clearly not the intended market for the kit).


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 11:09 am
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The idea that people are bothered that it's a small clothing company and not a large, industry-crushing bike company is madness to me. You don't want fancy trousers? Don't buy any.

In a period where the bike industry is really struggling I think some people seem to believe STW is immune from the pressures. If it doesn't earn money then it will disappear and we won't have a forum to moan on.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 11:20 am
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Hmm… might be time to buy a second pair…


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 11:41 am
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If it doesn’t earn money then it will disappear and we won’t have a forum to moan on.

We could petition for a blokes only section on Mumsnet! 🙂


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 11:54 am
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OK, so sponsor's adverts are excluded from the 'ad free' benefit of paid subscription, fair enough. Why though, do they have to be so large and intrusive? It's not too bad on a phone, but in the Chrome browser on a laptop it takes up a huge chunk of screen space and makes accessing the stuff we come here for just a little more tedious. I've just done a screenshot to show that, but it seems the photo upload facility is kaput. Just making it a little more subtle and not having it dominate the screen seems a reasonable thing to expect imo.

Edit.  Seems the photo upload thingy has been restored - thanks.  This is the home screen on my laptop:

Screenshot 2024-03-14 11.59.40


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 11:56 am
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Embedded vids don't work?


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 12:12 pm
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OK, so sponsor’s adverts are excluded from the ‘ad free’ benefit of paid subscription, fair enough. Why though, do they have to be so large and intrusive? It’s not too bad on a phone, but in the Chrome browser on a laptop it takes up a huge chunk of screen space and makes accessing the stuff we come here for just a little more tedious. I’ve just done a screenshot to show that, but it seems the photo upload facility is kaput. Just making it a little more subtle and not having it dominate the screen seems a reasonable thing to expect imo.

Looks like that on mine too but there's a simple solution: just scroll down a bit...

A little twitch of your mouse wheel and Bob's your uncle.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 12:29 pm
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I would say that that is an example of what ads should be like, Simple banner, no animation, doesn't get in the way too much, and purposefully chosen and placed there by those that run the site.

It's the ads that trigger epilepsy and take over the entire browser to the point I can see or concentrate on the actual content that cheese me off.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 12:34 pm
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Looks like that on mine too but there’s a simple solution: just scroll down a bit…

Thanks for that. So same technique as on a REACH local news site? Got it.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 12:35 pm
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Hmm… might be time to buy a second pair…

They have a sale on knives too, which I’m trying to resist. Be good for a croissant.


 
Posted : 14/03/2024 1:10 pm
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Better be quick Drac.


 
Posted : 15/03/2024 11:32 am
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Do we get a discount? 😀


 
Posted : 15/03/2024 11:56 am
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No ads, but the broken stuff comes free to everyone.


 
Posted : 15/03/2024 12:11 pm
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Better be quick Drac.

Yeah going fast.


 
Posted : 15/03/2024 12:42 pm
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My original reply got 501 Bad Gateway'd haha

As a non paid for member, I have to admit that I'm not tempted to pay thanks to the issues raised in threads like this.

The forum is ok on my phone, save for the horribly slow page load thanks to all the pop ups etc, and you can't see much on each page due to them (oh and that bloody annoying Google vignette full page takeover).

But I now avoid the site on my MacBook. Within 90 secs of browsing my laptop wants to take off it gets so hot trying to process the site. The only way I can calm it down is by turning the computer off. Only MS Teams gets it so hot, but at least when I come off there the computer calms down.

I'm sure the mods will tell me it's an issue with my laptop, but sadly stw is the only site that does this, and it's every time I visit 😔


 
Posted : 15/03/2024 4:53 pm
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It probably is your laptop if it isn't one of the new model Macs...I use one at work, the previous model went absolutely mental with the fan on this site (and only this site for web browsing - Photoshop also got the laptop almost levitating due to the amount of fan usage). I then got a newer model Mac and it remains absolutely silent on here.
No idea the difference as I'm not a Mac fanboy so as far as I'm concerned it is an over-priced version of a PC that does everything a windows machine can do - but in an alloy case.


 
Posted : 15/03/2024 7:03 pm
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My point being no other site makes it do that, so something's going on haha

(Work provided MacBook - I ain't paid enough to buy my own)


 
Posted : 15/03/2024 8:04 pm
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I might run this as the new banner ad though. I might run this as the new ad though.


 
Posted : 15/03/2024 10:00 pm
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A tough one for STW in that reducing reliance on non-behavioural advertising is the right to do. For those of us who care about privacy and behavioural advertising (where acceptance of cookies on STW through very questionable consent pages allows for tracking across the web, and not just on STW), the move back to standard publisher use of ads is a good thing (showing ads that are deemed to be interesting to many readers but not reliant on personal data).

So, yes, the banners are ads, but they’re not reliant on shitty adtech, which means I’d be more likely to renew my sub’, even with  ads. Of course, don’t forget the mag’ has ads too. Not a problem when handled properly because ads offset higher issue/subscription costs.


 
Posted : 16/03/2024 5:38 am
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Nb as I was too late to edit, first line should be: <i>A </i><i>tough one for STW in that reducing reliance on behavioural advertising is the right to do </i>(!).


 
Posted : 16/03/2024 6:48 am
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And now a pop-up on every page.

Thanks. 🥴


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 1:59 pm
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And now a pop-up on every page

The really annoying members one in the bottom left?


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 2:18 pm
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Click the X. It goes away. It's a notice for full members about a new benefit that's now available.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 2:25 pm
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It doesn’t go away.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 2:31 pm
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Ha! Now it has! Keep clicking it ‘till it does…


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 2:31 pm
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I confess I saw it, assumed it was an ad and clicked on it until it went away. What member-exclusive benefit did I miss?


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 2:35 pm
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10% off at Mountain Warehouse. New deal added to the Members Discount system


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 2:42 pm
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10% off at Mountain Warehouse. New deal added to the Members Discount system

I mean that's great, but you've told me five times now


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 3:03 pm
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Well that’s annoying


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 3:07 pm
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Click the X


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 3:15 pm
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It would be nice to have the option to tick a box in preferences and never get to see any promotional banners, pop ups, featured classified pics etc ever again.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 3:18 pm
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I had it. Clicked the X and not seen it since. Took all of 2 seconds from seeing it.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 3:25 pm
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1 min on google and you’ll get a 10% discount for mountain warehouse….


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 3:37 pm
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I checked I was logged in, then clicked the x...not a big deal really but still worthy of a moan - not for the advert but for making me have to check I was logged in.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 4:23 pm
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Hmm

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Posted : 29/03/2024 4:45 pm
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I'm also logged in and now getting a Mountain Warehouse advert plastered over my screen - not happy.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 6:35 pm
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If only there was an area of the forum where members could be informed of new members discounts.

We could call it the Members forum.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 6:38 pm
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A warehouse for storing mountains in would have to be really huge, probably better to leave them where they are.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 7:49 pm
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A single ad sitting at the top of the page cannot be compared with ones that line the sides and flash to get your attention.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 7:50 pm
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If only there was an area of the forum where members could moan about members problems.

We could call it the members forum.


 
Posted : 29/03/2024 8:45 pm
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My page has been flooded with non-susscriber ads since yesterday - still problems?

Better check my membership hasn't expired s'pose!


 
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