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You apparently can't install Adobe creative cloud apps on a drive with a case-sensitive filesystem.

You ****ing what?  What an absolute pile of dogshit.  I'd like to blame Apple for having 'optional' case sensitivity, but this is mostly Adobe's fault.  It's been this way for years by the look of it.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 7:56 pm
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So I created a second volume that's case insensitive.  But I cannot force the Adobe installer to use that location.  Any ideas?


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 8:14 pm
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clone your OS on to the new partition, startup from that, delete the case sensitive one(then clone back once you've reformatted the first partition again if you need to.)? Why did you choose case sensitive anyhow?

ps quick google suggests it's not just adobe that has issues with a case sensitive OS.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 8:37 pm
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You're right, that is dogshit.

Is this any help regarding selecting another installation volume?

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1002884


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 9:14 pm
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Also intrigued as to why anyone would choose to use a case sensitive file system... just to be “techy” and different?!

Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should! 😀


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:41 pm
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Why did you choose case sensitive anyhow?

Cos it's a unix-like OS, and unix is case sensitive, so I went for consistency.  I didn't pause to Google for it for very long, this stuff is supposed to 'just work' isn't it?  No-one told me it would cock up the installation of certain software down the line.

I don't fancy reformatting the whole thing.  Chance of buggering something up seems significant.

I created a case insensitive volume, but there seems to be no way to force the Adobe installer to install there rather than the default location.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 11:25 pm
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Is this any help regarding selecting another installation volume?

Not exactly.  That changes where the apps themselves are installed by the AAM - but you have to have AAM installed already, and that's what I"m struggling to install.

"You can change the install location from the preferences of the Adobe Application Manager."


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 11:26 pm
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[i]molgrips wrote:[/i]

this is mostly Adobe’s fault.  It’s been this way for years by the look of it.

Things being Adobe's fault? Couldn't argue with that.

As for case sensitive, as molly says that's standard for Unix/Linux and it works just fine IME (and has some advantages). It's hardly the fault of the people who designed that years before Adobe existed that people can't be bothered to write code properly to work with it.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 11:52 pm
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You have to choose the case-sensitive format on a Mac though, it’s not the default option. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing!

Anyhow, a few ideas, and solutions, here:  https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/15080/convert-a-partition-from-case-sensitive-to-case-insensitive


 
Posted : 20/03/2018 12:11 am
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Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should!

There must must be a large enough intersection of people running an approximation of a LAMP stack on a Mac, that they want to act as close as possible to a live installation on a unix server, and people wanting to run Adobe CC apps on that same Mac, no?


 
Posted : 20/03/2018 6:25 am
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Not really. Most people wanting the LAMP stack these days use Docker on their Mac

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Posted : 20/03/2018 7:29 am
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I use VMware… but you can see people just choosing to go case sensitive on OSX, firing up Apache2 and installing MySQL… not crazy really (although I wouldn't).

There are also people in research, with good reason to by running Unix apps (via X11 etc) side by side with Adobe apps.


 
Posted : 20/03/2018 10:53 am
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Ok my colleague found a hack that builds a library to override the one Adobe uses to do a FS check,  changes the library path in that script and then runs the installer.  If I can then get the installer to start, I can run it inside a case-insensitive volume and it should work.

It's from 2012 though so let's see if it'll work on High Sierra.


 
Posted : 20/03/2018 11:02 am
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[ goes away and reads ]

Docker docs say that you need a volume formatted with case sensitivity turned on to achieve what I'm suggesting anyway @allthegear… (Docker doesn't magically handle case sensitivity on a case insensitive fs, although that would have been clever…) but wisely they say not to do so for the root partition because "some Mac software" relies on case-insensitivity.


 
Posted : 20/03/2018 11:03 am
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Regarding the LAMP issue, I have XAMPP running on my PC - however if you want to get as close as possible to a live unix server install you just make a VM. Intriguingly though if you run WSL on a PC it is properly case sensitive using the native PC file system.


 
Posted : 20/03/2018 11:10 am
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Yup, VM is the only way to really set up a test/dev LAMP stack properly… just pointing out why it's not total insanity to think that turning on case sensitivity on your development machine, which you also want to want Adobe products on, could be a useful path to take (however it isn't a useful path to take, well not for the volume you run your OS and apps from, anyway, thanks to Adobe).


 
Posted : 20/03/2018 11:34 am

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