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Ok its from my work window cleaner so maybe not scientific.
Hes an OAP and in December all the OAP's in the area were given a flu vaccine. Quite alot became ill and they were told by the GP the strain/power of vaccine given to them was 'wrong'. Its past to the local population now.
Part of his story/theory makes sense as alot of my local area have the achey/bad chest etc at the same time. Whereas friends and family in other areas have zero.
Hmmm - might be an idea to go and look up how vaccination works...
Might be a better idea to realise if your window cleaner had the flu you'd not have seen him for weeks.
Yes we know how its supposed to work
I prescribe two tin foil hats, and don't call me in the morning.
Or it could be a royal conspiracy to control the masses....
Either way , it's worked in our household - sinusy flu for a month - bronchial cough for two weeks and now the green snot is back.
Cat aids?
They gave out the wrong strain vaccine.
Cold viruses (many strains of) go round like wildfire because people are generally very unhygienic and take poor precautions about infecting themselves and others. You will have infected yourself by touching your face, rubbing your eye or nose with a microscopic particle of someone elses infected mucus.
One of the symptoms of a cold virus is aching and fatigue. Seemingly some cold viruses are more persistent than others.
Do people avoid calling a cold a cold to make it sound more dramatic?
It's probably a relapse of Hora's chronic hypochondria 😀
Do people avoid calling a cold a cold to make it sound more dramatic?
They have to, since the general rubbish feeling you get from time to time, which isn't even a cold, is now promoted to the "i've got a bad cold" category.
So now when people get an actual cold they have to say "oh, I have flu"
Then if they get flu it's tales of how they almost died.
Part of his story/theory makes sense as alot of my [b]local [/b]area have the achey/bad chest etc at the same time. Whereas friends and family in [b]other areas[/b] have zero.
In other news - 'coughs and sneezes spread diseases. Skype doesn't.'
DrP
I don't want to live in a world where elderly window-cleaners get autism from the flu vaccine. End this sick madness.
🙁
Hora - everyone got the same strains in their flu jab this year. All that happened is that the usual predictions of which would be the UK's dominant strains this winter were wrong, which meant it offered less protection than normal.
So, unless there is some kind of specific genetic weakness in your area 🙂 , then you're no worse off than people in the next district.
Well apparently its a mutating strain this year so its the naughty strain thats overcoming the vaccine:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/06/flu-vaccine-mismatch-public-health-strain
So, unless there is some kind of specific genetic weakness in your area
how small is this area?
Its not an incestuous village in Cornwallhow small is this area?
I had the flu vaccine as usual
I had some mutant bastid virus snotting aching thing for months
I also know when it started to appear. It was about 2 months after the flu jab and about 12 hours after sitting near a snotting sneezebag disease ridden gent on a long haul flight to Tokyo.
So, it was defo the flu jab that did it, 'cos it's all a massive conspiracy to cull the general population.
...and that is a bona fide internet fact!
Well apparently its a mutating strain this year so its the naughty strain thats overcoming the vaccine:
No. It's a different strain to what indicators first showed was the likely one to be rife this year.
Viruses mutate fast so I guess the DSS has to take a bit of a "punt" on which vaccine to order from the manufacturer. If things move on fast the vaccine won't be completely right for that generation of the virus by the time it goes into circulation.
Not an OAP but also had the vaccine back in December when they were doing the rounds. Never had any cold or flu like symptoms since. In fact, I think this might be the first winter I can remember when I didn't catch a cold at any point!
I think its just "local" to his area
Its not an incestuous village in Cornwall
Yes, but I'm sure that many of your neighbours will have the rogue LAN-1 mutation which affects IQ and bladder control. Perhaps it increases viral susceptibility too.
hora - Member
Well apparently its a mutating strain this year so its the naughty strain thats overcoming the vaccine:http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/06/flu-vaccine-mismatch-public-health-strain
So if this one is a mutated strain were all the others the product of creationism?
Viruses mutate fast so I guess the DSS has to take a bit of a "punt" on which vaccine to order from the manufacturer.
Yes, this is exactly the reason why...
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aren't they all mutating strains? - a little thing we call 'evolution'..?
Dr Hora will see you now...
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aren't they all mutating strains? - a little thing we call 'evolution'..?
Yes, all things mutate all the time. However some things (I'm using the word 'thing' because there's an ongoing debate over whether viruses can be considered 'life') mutate faster than others. This is due to:
1) complexity of the organism- viruses are about as simple as it gets (just one up from a prion) so one mutation can have a large effect (for comparison: it takes around six different mutations, all occurring separately and in the correct manner, for a human cell to become cancerous
2) rate of reproduction- the more generations there are, the quicker a mutation can populate
Some good myth buster info [url= https://www.nuh.nhs.uk/media/12105/seasonal_flu_mythbusters.pdf ]here. [/url]
Looks like a vaccine [i]can[/i] give you flu like symptoms, courtesy of your immune system's response
No, it comes from my kids. All general purpose lurgies come from my kids*
*other parents may claim otherwise 😉
Not had any flu-like symptoms or even a cold for years. First time I had the flu jab was this season (asthma related), and lo and behold, a few months later, I am hit with this dreaded lurgy.
What more scientific proof does anyone need?
Anecdotal is FACT. 
Dunno, you could be onto something. Much bushmeat getting eaten round your way?
Its not an incestuous village in Cornwall
You can print that
out, roll it up and....quote
We've had a lot of colds and sniffles this year along with most people I know in lots of different areas. I don't know anyone who had the vaccine. Also, I was in Sweden for much of the winter and everyone there told the same story. Seems like it's been at least Europe-wide.
Seems like it's been at least Europe-wide.
I reckon it's fair to say that cold viruses are world wide.
I reckon it's fair to say that cold viruses are world wide.
See, this sort of thing wouldn't happen with UKIP!
See, this sort of thing wouldn't happen with UKIP!
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Do people avoid calling a cold a cold to make it sound more dramatic?
Never mind people upping the scale of their minor illness, my mother in law has different lower grades of cold.
It's mainly because, in spite of being a highly intelligent, educated woman, she's convinced "a cold" is different from "having a virus". The lowest level will be, say, a sore knee identified as having "cold in my knee".
It's very confusing, so I could do with some guidance from Hora on how to escalate this to the Great Springtime Window Cleaner Flu Epidemic of 2015.
Ive not taken a sick day in a year. Maybe if I did I'd get better sooner.
Love the old school stuff. This normally comes from a generation (traditionally females) who say MTFU ...but are stay at home types that could recover away from work and still preach 😆
If you get it on your chest. get to the Docs. Im now on antibiotics.
hora - Member
If you get it on your chest. get to the Docs. Im now on antibiotics.
Interesting. Did the doc tell you why?
Bad chest infection