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overtaking slower vehicles while quicker stuff are passing me
How did they manage to transpose the vehicles through the vehicles you were overtaking
They were nobbers but so is hogging the middle lane and both are offences
Jesus, this really is getting monotonous for me & I wish I'd never mentioned it!
If you're undertaken and cut up by inches, the undertaker is a nob.If you're undertaken at 130mph with plenty of space around you for the undertaker to manoeuvre, well, they're still a nob going at that speed, but you're in the wrong lane and part of the problem.
HTH.
For the record & try & picture the situation, I Am in the middle lane. Doing just over 70. I am overtaking slower vehicles such as Eddie Stobart, coaches, a truck with 'Visbeen' on the back, tankers, you know, the stuff you & I overtake every time wer'e on a motorway. 2 Silly Billy's overtake me at speed. Proper speed. After they overtake me I see them weaving about & undertaking traffic on the HS. I am not 'hogging' the lane, I'm overtaking just as other people are.
Anyway, I digress again but it seems apparent that a lot on here are more concerned about keeping a lane all to ones self rather than doing nutty speeds in traffic!
2 Silly Billy's overtake me at speed. Proper speed. After they overtake me I see them weaving about & undertaking traffic on the HS. I am not 'hogging' the lane, I'm overtaking just as other people are.
Stage 1. Denial
Stage 2. Anger
Stage 3. Acceptance that other people on the internet who weren't actually there know what you were doing better than you.
[s]Getting[/s] 'Making progress' to stage 3 as quickly as possible will aid your coming to terms with this distressing incident. 🙂
This has been a most entertaining thread though, thanks for starting it!
That should clear it up for the dim essel, but I wouldn't count on it. Seems a weird thread people seem more concerned with your alleged middle lane hogging (you weren't) than some genuine dangerous driving 😯
At which point in the OP does egf say that HE was undertaken by the two speeders?
I am overtaking slower vehicles such as Eddie Stobart, coaches, a truck with 'Visbeen' on the back, tankers, you know, the stuff you & I overtake every time wer'e on a motorway. [b]2 Silly Billy's overtake me[/b] at speed.
Apologies for missing that in the OP and subsequent comments, I can't imagine how. I think the only possible reason I missed it was because it wasn't frigging there.
🙄
Nice change of story though. 😉
The question is, where exactly did he say they'd undertaken him - or is that just something you assumed captainsuperior? So how has he changed his story?
At least we now know their names ;).
OP - you really ought to have taken extreme care with your words as it's not like you're new to STW!
The question is, where exactly did he say they'd undertaken him - or is that just something you assumed captainsuperior? So how has he changed his story?
He never pointed out that they actually overtook him, dear arser, he stated that they were hooning it up the inside lane and then left him standing. Now it has changed to an overtake.
I'll even draw picture for the hard of...
@ Herr Kapitan..
Checking my mirrors regularly, as I do, I spot a blue vehicle approaching from behind in the inside lane going like stink,
That was in my OP.
Inside lane being the one nearest the central reservation. No-one undertook me, that started after they passed. So are we clear on what happenned yet or is it a misunderstanding of what the inside lane is?
Anyway, wev'e clarified three things. One is that it's ok to speed excessively on a motorway, the second is that It's not ok to stay in the middle lane, ever.
Lane nearest the central reservation would be the 'offside" lane. Lanes to your left are 'nearside' or 'inside'. I'm not a huge driver and barely know a bmw from a skoda but I'm pretty sure that's right.
inside lane is the one furthest to the left of any carriageway including a roundabout.
wev'e clarified three things.
What's the third?
I Am in the middle lane. Doing just over 70. I am overtaking slower vehicles such as Eddie Stobart
Sounds totally sensible to me, so long as your successive overtakes weren't a week apart. My post wasn't aimed at you so much as generalising.
[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtaking ]
[/url]Note: In British English the meanings of inside and outside lanes are the reverse of US English. [b]So in Britain, overtaking is performed using the outside lane[/b]; in the US it is termed the inside lane. In both cases, it is a passing lane farther from the shoulder of the roadway.
[url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtaking#Overtaking_on_the_inside ]
[/url]Overtaking on the inside or undertaking
Are you pissed or taking glue?
We do not overtake on the inside lane in this country, forgive me if you are indeed an American.
Inside lane being the one nearest the central reservation.
What??!?!
What's the third?
I'm keeping that to myself Cougar. 😉
If every driver is following THC then overtaking on the left wouldn't be (safely) possible.
That utopia aside, there is no law against passing on the left (beyond variations on 'driving without due care').
In the US (IIRC) you can pass on whichever side you like.
Now it all makes sense 😆
Inside lane!!!!!!!
No. That's the outside lane. Inside lane is on the left.
What??!?!
Best stick to "lane 1," 2, 3, etc. Otherwise we've got opportunity for confusion.
Also, there's no such thing as a fast / slow lane.
Inside lane being the one nearest the central reservation.
What??!?!
Nearest to the centre of something is the inside shirley?
Fair enough, it's a good thread though! 8)
Inside lane being the one nearest the central reservation. No-one undertook me,
Your failure to understand inside vs outside has probably caused two of this three pages worth of responses.
Nearest to the centre of something is the inside shirley?
No.
"Nearside" = nearest the kerb.
aracer doth spake:yes it is quiet possible for a nobber to undertake you if you're overtaking safely and sensibly in the middle lane and the nobber doesn't care about safe gaps. Or would you only ever pull out to overtake when there's less than a car length gap to the vehicle in front? Get back in your box.
Spot on.
For anyone interested in the maths, [url= http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2+seconds+at+70mph ]at 70mph a two-second gap is 62.59 metres[/url].
So there is [i]plenty[/i] of room for some idiot to undertake you if they don't care about safe gaps.
You move 'out' to overtake stuff. Unless you're undertaking, where you'll move 'in' and get a right bollocking on the Internet for telling poeple that you've done it....evidently.
Your failure to understand inside vs outside has probably caused two of this three pages worth of responses.
Has been fun though. 😆
Best stick to "lane 1," 2, 3, etc. Otherwise we've got opportunity for confusion.
Also, there's no such thing as a fast / slow lane.
I think you'll find any lane I'm in is the fast lane, whether that's be 1,3,4 or 2
Or indeed the hard shoulder. Only the other day on the M62 did I have to pass some slow people who may or may not have been hogging the middle lane, using the hard shoulder.
Just making progress gov.
Back under your bridge.
[quote=GrahamS ]Spot on.
For anyone interested in the maths, at 70mph a two-second gap is 62.59 metres.
So there is plenty of room for some idiot to undertake you if they don't care about safe gaps.
I did write from experience having had somebody do exactly that. I was in the middle lane approaching a vehicle in the left lane at a point where it would no longer be safe to be in the left lane, when somebody coming fast from behind moved to the left lane and undertook me before pulling out. Except that they didn't actually pull into the gap in front, they clipped the front of my car - and I felt very fortunate to maintain control of the car.
Physics is different when you're teh awsum ninja squad.
I did write from experience having had somebody do exactly that.
Yikes.
I did once have a muppet decide that I had pulled out to overtake too early, so he "taught me a lesson" by going for an undertake.
Took all my willpower not to accelerate slightly and put him straight into the back of the truck I was overtaking.
He'd probably have just done the same as that driver did to me. In retrospect I should have backed off to give him space - I didn't accelerate, just maintained the speed I was doing.