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Coming back from Manchester at about 4.30pm today, I'm in the middle lane at just over 70 on the clock, overtaking slower vehicles while quicker stuff are passing me. Quite normal I'd say. (I know this place very well & am expecting the usual about 'you shouldn't be doing over 70 & so on & so forth)
Checking my mirrors regularly, as I do, I spot a blue vehicle approaching from behind in the inside lane going like stink, now I've been driving since 1976 ish & reckon I'm a reasonable 'estimator' of other cars speeds but this thing blew me away (literally) I'd estimate it was doing 130mph plus. This was surprising enough until his pal followed suit in the exact (looking) car, both short arse blue BM's. The race was on between these two & because the traffic wasn't as dense on there as it often is, they had room for manoeuvre (sp?)
They were all over the place, like weaver birds, one ended up passing vehicles using the hard shoulder then cutting back across the 3 lanes (about 1/4 of a mile ahead was a guy changing a wheel on the HS)
Haven't seen such a disregard for anyone's safety on the roads like this since I passed my test. & there's never a traffic cop when you'd like to see one!
Edit, & guess who got a GoPro for his birthday & guess where it wasn't today.
You were doing over 70? They should lock you up and throw away the key.
New series of Police Interceptors?
They should lock you up and throw away the key.
He could do that himself
No he couldnt, coz he couldnt throw the key out the cell once he was locked in.
He could swallow it though and then be stuck in there for at least as long as it took breakfast to travel south.
esselgruntfuttockI'm in the middle lane at just over 70 on the clock
Worse than a child molester.
I'm in the middle lane at just over 70 on the clock, overtaking slower vehicles while quicker stuff are passing me. Quite normal I'd say. (I know this place very well & am expecting the usual about 'you should
I spot a blue vehicle approaching from behind in the inside lane going like stink,
& because the traffic wasn't as dense on there as it often is, they had room for manoeuvre
How come they didn't hit the cars you were "overtaking"?
#MiddleLaneHoggers
Fair enough, I overreacted.
Although I did expect the posts you chaps put up.
I could be a troll after all! 😆
How come they didn't hit the cars you were "overtaking"?
Did you read the bit bit about undertaking using the hard shoulder? Thought not. 😉
No he couldnt, coz he couldnt throw the key out the cell once he was locked in.
I can't lock myself into a cell except for using the courtesy lock, in which case I could put the key through the grill on the windows. 8)
Did you read the bit bit about undertaking using the hard shoulder? Thought not.
That wasn't in the bit where they were undertaking you though.
Happy for you to my thinking for me, not.
I saw it too, going up to Saddleworth. They were actually Audio S3's, both Blue. I was in lane 3 doing 75 ,in the section where it's 4 lanes. I actually thought they were going to rear end me. I could not get out of the way as they must have been going 120+. They must have been within 3 feet of the back of my car when they overtook.
Captainssasquatach, you are a bellend. These people should be in jail right now. It is a miracle they didn't kill someone.
Where about on the M62 as i may have a good explication why they were travelling at around 130 mph 🙂
Captainssasquatach, you are a bellend. These people should be in jail right now. It is a miracle they didn't kill someone.
Thanks very much, Odious. 🙄
Soz Cpt, neither undertook me on the shoulder, they were both perfectly legal in that manoeuvre, sorry if I misled you into their antics.
Happy for you to my thinking for me, not.
You pissed?
The post above me confirms what i already know ....
Lets just say they wont be prosecuted ..
I saw it too, going up to Saddleworth. They were actually Audio S3's, both Blue. I was in lane 3 doing 75 ,in the section where it's 4 lanes. I actually thought they were going to rear end me. I could not get out of the way as they must have been going 120+. They must have been within 3 feet of the back of my car when they overtook.
Yep, about there. Funny cos my Mrs just said 'are you sure they weren't Audis'
TBH they went past me so ****ing quick I didn't get a great look cos I was watching for more.
Soz Cpt, neither undertook me on the shoulder, they were both perfectly legal in that manoeuvre, sorry if I misled you into their antics.
You weren't actually overtaking anything then if they had room to undertake you at 120mph plus.
Not excusing driving at 120mph plus driving on the road as some might think.
You were probably middle lane hogging like 99% of people that drive on the 62 for absolutely no reason.
They were just showing you that you should move over as they had plenty of space to undertake.
The post above me confirms what i already know ....Lets just say they wont be prosecuted ..
Why? No cops about? SAS on their way to a job? Either way it was reckless. I take it by your comment it was legal as far as you know?
They were just showing you that you should move over as they had plenty of space to undertake.
😉
%100 legal and %200 drivers more capable than the average road user
Captainsaq....are you on glue or can't you ****ing read my OP. I was doing just over 70 OVERTAKING slower vehicles, not lane hogging which is illegal. It's past your bedtime so nash, your'e doing my nut in.
I love this site. 😀
stevedoc - Member
%100 legal and %200 drivers more capable than the average road user
Aye, so what, Ninja Warriors ?? 😀
Bollocks, that type of behaviour surely can't be legal however important they think they are...
%100 legal and %200 drivers more capable than the average road user
Was it Trolling Glupton Zoofighter etc and his identical twin brother? Loving the secret squirrel, 'I could tell you, but then I'd have to reveal my true identity as a senior traffic warden' attitude btw. Super cool... 😉
People can rant and rave all they want about what the think is right all im saying is the drivers of these vehicles need to travel at speed and as the rest of the world truly abides by every speed limit going , going fast is a necessity and i for one and glad they do
Captainsaq....are you on glue or can't you **** read my OP. I was doing just over 70 OVERTAKING slower vehicles, not lane hogging which is illegal. It's past your bedtime so nash, your'e doing my nut in.
Your description doesn't fit. You were overtaking something while these A3s undertook you. You were in the middle lane and the A3s were not on the hard shoulder.
Haven't seen such a disregard for anyone's safety on the roads like this since I passed my test.
I'm now having serious doubts about the veracity of the whole story if stevedoc is to be believed.
Ever wondered how high speed pursuit is trained for?
It's done in real time at real speeds on actual roads.
%200 drivers more capable than the average road user
surfmatt and....
People can rant and rave all they want about what the think is right all im saying is the drivers of these vehicles need to travel at speed and as the rest of the world truly abides by every speed limit going , going fast is a necessity and i for one and glad they do
So why don't you just tell everyone who they are then?
Why?
What?
Sounds like hes alluding to armed response unit, they always drive like total bell ends with a total disregard for anyone but themselves
Armed response = AWESOME!!!
Or mr n mrs Surfmatt as Bregante pointed out
Was it Jason Bourne racing Chris Hoy to get home in time for the Vuelta finish?
I reckon it was Ant & Dec racing to the opening of a door somewhere
Seen it twice on motorways around Manchester.
If it was rozzers then why don't they use the blue and twos?
Worst driving I have ever seen was a golf gti overtaking me on a corner with a traffic island, I was doing 30 it was going at least 70+ went around me and had to serve so hard to avoid the traffic island it went onto two wheel and was inches from rolling down an embankment, somehow he got away with it...
@ BadlyWiredDog
Names address and contact detail enough ?
Or just leave it as not your average M62 nutcase trying to get to the Trafford centre before all the good spaces are taken....
I thought the Armed Response Units were supposed to use marked cars for this reason.
No lights and no sirens, to me says reckless. What would they have to lose by having blues and twos if they're in any way linked to the police or security services?
North Manchester were smoking unmarked gunmetal grey ISTR audi a4's the last time i seen em, so not beyond possibility of going to A3?
hammyuk - Member
Ever wondered how high speed pursuit is trained for?
It's done in real time at real speeds on actual roads
I think the OP knows a thing or two about Popo procedures.
ISTR the coulour as grey as it was dark, i caught a look in my headlight bems on Kearsley roundabout
@ BadlyWiredDog
Names address and contact detail enough ?
Or just leave it as not your average M62 nutcase trying to get to the Trafford centre before all the good spaces are taken....
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Post of the year ^
Agreed 😀
I wasn't necessarily referring to the OP's post.
However the OP might not be aware of all popo procedures just because he is in the prison service.
There are lots of "specialist" units in various forces that only those who work closely with them would ever know about.
In this instance however going by someone's posts it might just be a couple of idiots who happen to drive something slightly quicker for a living and had a couple of energy drinks too many....
Just ask your local County police as there's no doubt cameras on the motorway.
What a perfect example of some grumpy middle-aged f'kwombles this thread is (OP excluded). STW truly excels itself here 😆
S3s strike me as a bit small for armed response. Round here they are all A6s and X5s to carry the weight of all their armour n ammo n stuff. Spose they could just be training in hire cars though; bit irresponsible without blue lights IMHO.
You were probably middle lane hogging like 99% of people that drive on the 62 for absolutely no reason.
I've nothing to add to the OP as I wasn't there but,
The M62 is the worst place in the world for shitty lane discipline. I don't know what it is about that particular stretch of road but I'm forever encountering the Lane Two Owner's Club conventions on it.
Agreed V8, regardless of advance training, the people they are hooning around, aint, and theres the possibility to be a tad unpredictable when faced with someone up thier chuff doing nearly twice the limit.
Nobshaftery of the highest order
Come and try the M27 Cougar......
S3s strike me as a bit small for armed response. Round here they are all A6s and X5s to carry the weight of all their armour n ammo n stuff. Spose they could just be training in hire cars though; bit irresponsible without blue lights IMHO.
I think we've established that they were simply 'Special Response Traffic Wardens' en route to a particularly poor piece of double parking 'somewhere in West Yorkshire'.
Seriously though, I hate all the 'nudge, nudge, wink, wink!', I know who they are, but I'm not going to tell you because I am/they are so important, nose-tapping daftness. If you're certain they're armed response units 'training' or a unit of elite midwives en route to an emergency caesarian or something, why not just say that?
Worst driving I have ever seen was a golf gti overtaking me on a corner with a traffic island, I was doing 30 it was going at least 70+ went around me and had to serve so hard to avoid the traffic island it went onto two wheel and was inches from rolling down an embankment, somehow he got away with it...
May have been the best bit of driving you have ever seen!
I haven't read all the replies cos I was getting bored with someone who only seemed to want to question me about why I was in the middle lane, even though I said why initially!
I know absolutely zilch about Popo procedures because I left Frankland prison before I did the Cat A driving course (the one where you follow armed police cars a few feet behind at whatever speed they deem safe & quite often with a helicopter in attendance).
You can train rapid response drivers to your hearts content but you can't train someone to be a mind reader (of other road users minds) & without blue lights at least to warn other users of a presence, who knows. These two didn't even have headlights on. From what I saw they were two drivers having some scary fun.
Having seen the way a large minority of drivers act when something with flashing lights comes up behind them it's probably safer at 120 mph+ to just fly past unannounced.
Around here the procedure seems to be to do nothing until the flashing lights are right behind, then swerve wildly when you finally notice them 'cos you weren't paying attention.
I haven't read all the replies cos I was getting bored with someone who only seemed to want to question me about why I was in the middle lane, even though I said why initially!
Middle lane hogging means that traffic travelling at higher speed then only has the one option of overtaking in the outside lane. This blocks two lanes and the ability to overtake. If these guys were indeed on their way to an emergency and needed to get through were left with the option of undertaking.
They obviously couldn't undertake you as the vehicle you were overtaking would have blocked their path. Yet for some physics defying reason they could.
I see it all too often where bad drivers resort to name calling when their piss poor driving is called out. 🙄
All the nudge nudge,wink wink,nose tapping Walter Mittery stems from the same lack of clue as the rest of us, the spirit of Surfmatt is strong in this one!
Captain - try reading the OP - he was not undertaken but saw the two cars in question undertaking others. Invoke Hattersleys rule " when in a hole stop digging"
captainsuperior - yes it is quiet possible for a nobber to undertake you if you're overtaking safely and sensibly in the middle lane and the nobber doesn't care about safe gaps. Or would you only ever pull out to overtake when there's less than a car length gap to the vehicle in front? Get back in your box.
when [s]in a hole[/s] under a bridge [s]stop digging[/s] keep trolling
Captain - try reading the OP
Aw leave him alone he's trying very, very hard at being Columbo!
Seems I gave the OP too much credit.
Anyhow, driving in close proximity and undertaking at very high speeds without blues and twos is reckless, no matter how trained you are. I don't believe we have an 'acceptable collateral damage' policy in this country, every life matters. Everyone driving on that motorway or indeed changing a wheel on the hard shoulder (although it's recommended you call for rescue and get over the barriers) deserves protection regardless of whether there's a critical incident that needs training for. The "I know who they are so it's okay" brigade seem to be living in a James Bond fantasy where normal motorists are just disposable extras who don't even make the credits. If it's that much of a secret, should you even be posting on the foremost general information forum in the country? Because they will obviously know who you are.
^^^^This
I've seen far worse, the 4 lanes that merge to 3 approaching Saddleworth- young woman in 4x4 chatting on phone flooring it and forcing a line of cars to move out of her way with inches to spare. She then settled at c65mph for the next few miles in the fast lane so it seemed. Still chatting away.
Its one of those occasions where you accelerate or hard brake to stay well away incase she repeated.
I seen a bloke eating a mellon with a spoon ,in a pea souper fog coming 'tother way a few year back
I'd be more concerned about drug drivers tbh.
Hang on - you're saying they were drug squad, hora?
He could tell you....
I absolutely refuse to believe that anyone managed to get above 35mph on that section of the M62
Drugged up drivers not them. In Hudds a while back I was passed twice by a car stinking of weed. Made me feel very vulnerable on a bike.
Drugged up drivers not them. In Hudds a while back I was passed twice by a car stinking of weed. Made me feel very vulnerable on a bike.
I doubt you'd be able to inhale a meaningful amount just from a passing car, you'd be fine. Could just be a Magic Tree air freshener mind? They bring out new flavours/aromas all the time.
You'd think that but it can make you paranoid, and hora said he felt very vulnerableI doubt you'd be able to inhale a meaningful amount just from a passing car, you'd be fine
Makes you think
The section of the M62 between Manchester and Leeds should be easy pickings for the motorway cops. I have regularly driven that road and al ost every time I get passed by at least 1 nutter doing 120mph+, undertaking and weaving between traffic.
The smell weed from passing cars is another issue, but there seems to be loads driving around Lancaster and Morecambe. I'm not sure if it's common in other towns.
Checking my mirrors regularly, as I do,[b] I spot a blue vehicle approaching from behind in the inside lane[/b] going like stink, now I've been driving since 1976 ish & reckon I'm a reasonable 'estimator' of other cars speeds [b]but this thing blew me away[/b] (literally) I'd estimate it was doing 130mph plus
Sounds like he was undertaken to me.
If you're undertaken and cut up by inches, the undertaker is a nob.
If you're undertaken at 130mph with plenty of space around you for the undertaker to manoeuvre, well, they're still a nob going at that speed, but you're in the wrong lane and part of the problem.
HTH.
I've been undertaken on the M66 by a car 'going like stink' up the hard shoulder of the M66 just before Bury. For a moment I thought it was going to run straight into the back of me. There's a special breed of dickhead round these parts.
nudge nudge,wink wink,nose tapping Walter Mittery
I need to engineer a conversation where I can use that phrase!
Last time I was up there Mrs Rusty, who used to live in those parts, said 'Watch out here, this is where the boy racers come out to play'. And right on cue, 2 Evos and a Scooby came off the slip road and into the outside lane in a single unbroken maneuver and proceeded to disappear over the horizon.The section of the M62 between Manchester and Leeds should be easy pickings for the motorway cops.
Yes, I was 'undertaken', but no, [i]I [/i]was wasn't the problem.
Sounds like my commute
Greater Manchester Police have a few S3's, there is at least a Blue and Grey one.
I reckon Captain dullard is one of those mirror, indicate, pull out, mirror, indicate, pull in, pull out, pull in, pull out, pull in, pull out, pull in drivers who reckons that spending your entire journey weaving across the line between the driving and first overtaking lane is somehow safer than not pulling back in if the gap is less than say, 8-10 seconds. Which would give Audi driving nobbers doing 120mph plenty of time to cut up two cars. One on the way in, and one on the way out.
Unless Captain dullard pulls in of course. Then the nobber is deeply in the shit (or halfway up the embankment) and captain dullard is right in the 2 second limit for the vehicle he's just failed to overtake safely.